EPT[TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion - Page 328
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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire Click Here for the spoiler-free thread. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
Luckily Tyrion will be there soon. The Dany/Mereen chapters are no more tedious than Cat. God I hated her chapters. | ||
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Xinder
United States2269 Posts
On May 17 2013 11:09 Dosey wrote: There's no one there to just slapabitch and say LISTEN MOTHERFUCKER Luckily Tyrion will be there soon. The Dany/Mereen chapters are no more tedious than Cat. God I hated her chapters. Brienne chapters anyone? | ||
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armada[sb]
United States432 Posts
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dravernor
Netherlands6192 Posts
On May 17 2013 11:09 Dosey wrote: There's no one there to just slapabitch and say LISTEN MOTHERFUCKER Luckily Tyrion will be there soon. The Dany/Mereen chapters are no more tedious than Cat. God I hated her chapters. Soon?  Like, in another book and a half he will get there. That fifth book just slowed right down, argh. After ASoS the whole plot cut pace. Mostly Dany's fault I rate. | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On May 17 2013 13:21 DragonLord wrote: Soon? Like, in another book and a half he will get there. That fifth book just slowed right down, argh. After ASoS the whole plot cut pace. Mostly Dany's fault I rate.According to the readings GRRM has made of his spoiler chapters, [Spoilered for those who don't want pre-spoilers]+ Show Spoiler + Mereen sorties and brings the fight to the Yunkai'i in one of the first couple Tyrion chapters, this was while Tyrion was playing cyvasse with Brown Ben talking about him switching sides again and bringing her Tyrion to Dany as a gift for forgiveness. Spoiler chapters are subject to change though... In one of the spoiler chapters for DwD, it had Tyrion noticing a sword among the gifts that Illyrio was bringing along for Aegon. (There were theories flying around that it was one of the missing Targaryen Valyrian Steel Swords) That sword mysteriously wasn't mentioned in the official hardback. | ||
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
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Slithen
United Kingdom4 Posts
On May 16 2013 20:09 Scorch wrote: It's getting late in the week and we need some more unending discussion. After character alignments, swordsman rankings and ice melting methods, it's time for a current Power Rank of the Great Houses. = 1 Lannister (still firmly in control, has the king, a good army and loads of money) ▲ 2 Tyrell (plays the Game well, about to have the queen, Margaery can control Joffrey, decent army and wealth) ▼ 3 Stark (lost the Karstarks, will soon gain Frey's forces) ▲ 4 Targaryen (playing Spartacus. Will be the strongest force when dragons grow and slaves and Dothraki join) ▼ 5 Baratheon (has not recovered from Blackwater Bay. Melisandre may still assassinate anyone with a shadow) Agree/disagree? Also, where would the wildlings and the white walkers fit in the ranking? That'll be fun. | ||
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Irrelevant Label
United States596 Posts
On May 17 2013 14:36 Dosey wrote: According to the readings GRRM has made of his spoiler chapters, [Spoilered for those who don't want pre-spoilers]+ Show Spoiler + Mereen sorties and brings the fight to the Yunkai'i in one of the first couple Tyrion chapters, this was while Tyrion was playing cyvasse with Brown Ben talking about him switching sides again and bringing her Tyrion to Dany as a gift for forgiveness. Spoiler chapters are subject to change though... In one of the spoiler chapters for DwD, it had Tyrion noticing a sword among the gifts that Illyrio was bringing along for Aegon. (There were theories flying around that it was one of the missing Targaryen Valyrian Steel Swords) That sword mysteriously wasn't mentioned in the official hardback. There has not been anything explosive or revealing in tWoW partial chapters. Maybe that the Martells are being very cautious about the golden company and this "Aegon"? That is about it. Everything else is pretty tame and expected. The aDwD spoiler snippet you refer to was not the same. When that spoiler was released the reaction among the speculators was all along the lines of "Ahh, was wondering if a Blackfyre pretender would enter the mix". If they had Blackfyre nobody would have taken young Griff seriously and the Faegon theory would be much closer to the Faegon law. Not sure what can be metagamed from GRRMs decision to cut it. It could go either way depending on why exactly it was cut. Allegedly he keeps himself sequestered and does not react to fan theories, so I lean in the direction of saying it was not done cynically. If that is the case then he probably decided it did not make sense for Blackfyre to be there, leaning credence to Aegon's legitimacy (or at least that he isn't a Blackfyre). (not that I think he is real for a second, I'm just giving the other side this point) In any case, Tyrion was setting up to buy off the second sons for Dany in aDwD so that point will remain regardless of changes between the spoiler section and whatever makes it into the final version of tWoW. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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Okee
Sweden54 Posts
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On May 17 2013 15:24 tshi wrote: Can't wait for this to make sense to people: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN7e_Oo0Bis Explain it to me, I am too tired to think at the moment  Bran (and Bloodraven) can see our world? Or, there are no people in that video. People will get wiped out in the North? | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
Can't wait to see the disappointment once they realize all she does is turn every city she goes to into a shithole, marries a guy who will probably look like the main antagonist from 300, and more Season 02-esque bitching/moaning. | ||
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AstroPegnuin
293 Posts
On May 16 2013 23:43 DragonLord wrote: My vote - Dany is Azor Ahai (sp?) but you probably all already thought that or speculated. You know how she likes her fire and stuff? Yeah. Edit: Poster above me, no, i always triple check which thread i am in before i post! haha My guess is there is no Azor Ahai, however if there is it would be way to cliché for George to make it Daenerys or Jon. Theres so much insane metaphors, symbolism, allusions, etc riddled within the books that give good arguments for a lot of other characters as well including both Daenerys and Jon so it may be a possibility. | ||
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TheKwas
Iceland372 Posts
On May 18 2013 13:59 hzflank wrote: Explain it to me, I am too tired to think at the moment Bran (and Bloodraven) can see our world? Or, there are no people in that video. People will get wiped out in the North? The Rains of Castamere. It's a Lannister song warning against crossing them, it's the song that the turncoats use to signal the massacre. The lyrics are actually ideal for the situation: And who are you, the proud lord said, that I must bow so low? Only a cat of a different coat, that's all the truth I know. In a coat of gold or a coat of red, a lion still has claws, And mine are long and sharp, my lord, as long and sharp as yours. And so he spoke, and so he spoke, that lord of Castamere, But now the rains weep o'er his hall, with no one there to hear. Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall, and not a soul to hear. | ||
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AstroPegnuin
293 Posts
On May 18 2013 14:59 sung_moon wrote: Speaking of Dany, I'm literally dying inside listening to my friends ride her dick these past episodes on how much of a badass she currently is and how by next season she'll have arrived in Westeros to raise hell. Can't wait to see the disappointment once they realize all she does is turn every city she goes to into a shithole, marries a guy who will probably look like the main antagonist from 300, and more Season 02-esque bitching/moaning. in all fairness to George he never originally intended for this huge stalemate but as a result of expanding the book count it was sort of a necessity in the grand scheme of things, personally I found Feast and Dance to be two of the better written books in terms of exposition and lore. Unfortunately because of the books lengths the editors had to cut out pivotal latter chapters that would contribute to giving the books a better climax, but as it stands they just came off as filler content. I think in the future when Winds of Winter and eventually Dreams of Spring are completed people will appreciate both Feast/Dance a lot more as they can simply just transition straight into Winds of Winter thus giving a more rewarding feeling to readers. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
I'll reserve judgment until the scene is given more context, but I definitely don't remember Stannis ever talking like that to Davos. Maybe I just forgot though.. | ||
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czylu
477 Posts
On May 18 2013 15:13 AstroPegnuin wrote: in all fairness to George he never originally intended for this huge stalemate but as a result of expanding the book count it was sort of a necessity in the grand scheme of things, personally I found Feast and Dance to be two of the better written books in terms of exposition and lore. Unfortunately because of the books lengths the editors had to cut out pivotal latter chapters that would contribute to giving the books a better climax, but as it stands they just came off as filler content. I think in the future when Winds of Winter and eventually Dreams of Spring are completed people will appreciate both Feast/Dance a lot more as they can simply just transition straight into Winds of Winter thus giving a more rewarding feeling to readers. I think the main part about Dany's story in Dance is to show that she is losing control of her dragons. For most of the book, they are chained in some tomb, and @ the end they are scattered across the world. I would assume the next books is about her getting control back. | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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