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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Cayn
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany173 Posts
June 13 2011 06:22 GMT
#421
On June 13 2011 15:20 Steveacron wrote:
Yes, I am loving the reaction from the crowd when ned died. It been really interesting. I tried my best to not spoil it. It is amazing. :D
Spoiling the red wedding is the one thing you can do to piss off any fans of the show that have not read the book.


yeah but to be honest when i read that part i lay down the book for an hour it was uberrage
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
June 13 2011 07:10 GMT
#422
Just like I was several months ago, I'm stilly nervous about the final scene of the finale. I know they'll do everything in their power to not make it look silly, and they've done a spectacular job so far with other scenes like Baelor's sept, but man I just really hope the dragons don't look at all cheesy or anything like that. Obviously will have to be completely CGI and it will be such a shock and so different from the rest of the show, cgi dragons..I don't know if I've ever seen any that look believable. I hope I'm wrong
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Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
June 13 2011 07:13 GMT
#423
On June 13 2011 13:19 Dark.Carnival wrote:
While not showing the battles in tonights episode I'm fine with, I really hope they show the Blackwater battle when the show gets there, or at least the river portion + tyrion gettin' injured

oh obviously they will, it was a huge part/climax of the 2nd book and was described in detail. the whispering wood nor the battle with tyrion/tywin's army wasn't described at all, the show was just like the books, shown from tyrion and catelyn's points of views.

GRRM recently blogged about having to write the Blackwater episode:


Kind of fitting that "The Pointy End" airs even as I am working on my season two script, "Blackwater." A much tougher assignment, by the way. All those damned boats...
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
June 13 2011 07:17 GMT
#424
i havent seen the episode yet but did they ever end up showing ned's dream about lyanna?
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SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
June 13 2011 07:18 GMT
#425
On June 13 2011 16:10 Zelniq wrote:
Just like I was several months ago, I'm stilly nervous about the final scene of the finale. I know they'll do everything in their power to not make it look silly, and they've done a spectacular job so far with other scenes like Baelor's sept, but man I just really hope the dragons don't look at all cheesy or anything like that. Obviously will have to be completely CGI and it will be such a shock and so different from the rest of the show, cgi dragons..I don't know if I've ever seen any that look believable. I hope I'm wrong



I've actually really been worried about this for a while as well.

I feel like a lot of people who haven't read the books might not do well with a more imaginative turn.

I know we've had frozen zombies and all, but with the dragons I am worried that the show risks losing the gritty realism that has made it popular.
I just don't see how they can consistently do the dragons (which become a very important part of the Danaerys storyline) in a realistic manner.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
June 13 2011 08:06 GMT
#426
If the death of Ned pisses people off this badly i wonder if the red wedding is gonna send them into shock.

To me the death of Ned never felt massive. I was suprised that he died as was anyone but it didn't hit me as hard as the red wedding. The death of Ned was just that, Ned died. The red wedding is the absolute end to the entire Stark chances wich at the time were allready bleak.
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
June 13 2011 08:12 GMT
#427
I have a feeling that episode 10 will end with the eggs just starting to hatch. I doubt we'll actually see any CGI dragons this season.
Damian
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany335 Posts
June 13 2011 08:16 GMT
#428
On June 13 2011 16:17 SoMuchBetter wrote:
i havent seen the episode yet but did they ever end up showing ned's dream about lyanna?

No and that makes me wonder... Maybe GRRM wanted to punch all the R+L=J-believers in the face
Robstickle
Profile Joined April 2010
Great Britain406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 09:41:21
June 13 2011 09:38 GMT
#429
On June 13 2011 17:16 Damian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 16:17 SoMuchBetter wrote:
i havent seen the episode yet but did they ever end up showing ned's dream about lyanna?

No and that makes me wonder... Maybe GRRM wanted to punch all the R+L=J-believers in the face


I hope that they at least put in some hints, in the books the fun of guessing who Jon's parents are comes from the hints, most of which have seemed to suggest R+L=J. If there's no hints in the show then to the show watchers, it will just be a blind guessing game. Which is boring.
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
June 13 2011 09:56 GMT
#430
On June 13 2011 16:10 Zelniq wrote:
Just like I was several months ago, I'm stilly nervous about the final scene of the finale. I know they'll do everything in their power to not make it look silly, and they've done a spectacular job so far with other scenes like Baelor's sept, but man I just really hope the dragons don't look at all cheesy or anything like that. Obviously will have to be completely CGI and it will be such a shock and so different from the rest of the show, cgi dragons..I don't know if I've ever seen any that look believable. I hope I'm wrong

Im mostly pumped about how they make the rest of the scene look! In the book you get to know so much about what the characters (Dany in this case) think while theyre doing what they´re doing (Walking into the fire in this case) which they cant tell that easily in the series. Really gonna be a test of Emilia Clarks actingskills!
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
Maginor
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway505 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 10:09:26
June 13 2011 10:08 GMT
#431
On June 13 2011 16:13 Zelniq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 13:19 Dark.Carnival wrote:
While not showing the battles in tonights episode I'm fine with, I really hope they show the Blackwater battle when the show gets there, or at least the river portion + tyrion gettin' injured

oh obviously they will, it was a huge part/climax of the 2nd book and was described in detail. the whispering wood nor the battle with tyrion/tywin's army wasn't described at all, the show was just like the books, shown from tyrion and catelyn's points of views.

GRRM recently blogged about having to write the Blackwater episode:

Show nested quote +

Kind of fitting that "The Pointy End" airs even as I am working on my season two script, "Blackwater." A much tougher assignment, by the way. All those damned boats...


The battle with Tywins army was described in detail from Tyrions point of view in the book. There Robb sent 10000 soldiers, and it wasn't a complete slaughter. It was more of a close-run thing, especially on Tyrions flank since that was planned to break (Though Tywin didn't warn Tyrion about that). However, Gregor Clegane was there and managed to rout the northmen. Bolton managed to save half the northern army and retreat.

On June 13 2011 17:12 snotboogie wrote:
I have a feeling that episode 10 will end with the eggs just starting to hatch. I doubt we'll actually see any CGI dragons this season.


The special effects company said they were working on CGI dragons for episode 10 in an earlier interview.
Strut
Profile Joined June 2010
United States182 Posts
June 13 2011 10:39 GMT
#432
Pretty good episode. I don't mind them cutting the battle scenes the way they did, it works just as well story wise, and will help keep costs down for future seasons. The final scene was good too. I liked how Ned saw Arya in the crowd and was able to drop a hint at Yoren.

What I didn't like was the Tyrion scenes. They made him look a bit too cowardly the way he wanted to avoid the battle and cutting his battle scene. Tyrion makes a lot of jokes about his courage and fighting skills and all that, but his actions in the books really show he's one of the bravest characters. It occurs to me now that they'll have the entire next season to really develop that, but I'm not sure Tyrion is likeable enough now to keep viewers especially after Ned's death.

I hope this last episode has some good Tyrion scenes. They at least need to have him finish the Tysha story.
chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
June 13 2011 10:50 GMT
#433
On June 13 2011 16:10 Zelniq wrote:
Just like I was several months ago, I'm stilly nervous about the final scene of the finale. I know they'll do everything in their power to not make it look silly, and they've done a spectacular job so far with other scenes like Baelor's sept, but man I just really hope the dragons don't look at all cheesy or anything like that. Obviously will have to be completely CGI and it will be such a shock and so different from the rest of the show, cgi dragons..I don't know if I've ever seen any that look believable. I hope I'm wrong


This is the thing im scared of since i heard of the making of the TV show. I always have a fighting scene from XENA in my head with those cheap clay monster animations...
Lochat
Profile Joined January 2011
United States270 Posts
June 13 2011 11:11 GMT
#434
On June 11 2011 04:50 Jyvblamo wrote:
There's even a crazy theory out there that Syrio and Jaqen are 'Tyler Durden'-esque personas created by Arya's demented mind as a coping mechanism.


Never heard people be that inane, but yeah, people come up with absurdity.

To be fair, Martin gives subtle things about many things. However, I think as a rule is that if a character is implied dead, you should assume they are dead until explicitly said otherwise. As such, as much as it pains me, yes Syrio is dead. Or at least, assumed dead.
"The trouble was that he was talking in philosophy, but they were listening in gibberish." -- (Terry Pratchett, Small Gods)
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
June 13 2011 13:23 GMT
#435
Just watched today's episode and the part about Tyrion's wife is so sad when he finds out from Jaime that she actually wasn't a whore my heart broke with his.
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
June 13 2011 13:28 GMT
#436
On June 13 2011 22:23 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Just watched today's episode and the part about Tyrion's wife is so sad when he finds out from Jaime that she actually wasn't a whore my heart broke with his.


Is that in the books? I don't remember that, I thought she was actually a whore.
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
June 13 2011 13:35 GMT
#437
On June 13 2011 22:28 snotboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 22:23 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Just watched today's episode and the part about Tyrion's wife is so sad when he finds out from Jaime that she actually wasn't a whore my heart broke with his.


Is that in the books? I don't remember that, I thought she was actually a whore.


Oh, have you read A Feast for Crows yet?

+ Show Spoiler +
It's the main reason why he killed his father
betaV1.25
Profile Joined April 2010
425 Posts
June 13 2011 13:42 GMT
#438
I tought I remember that in the books Tyrion had to fuck her again after all the guards putting his thing in this used hole and his father payed a golden dragon for him.
Found that pretty disturbing in the books tbh

then finding out that she was infact not a whore.... and your father fucking shea... as far as fucked up father son relationships go, this must be pretty high up there.

snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
June 13 2011 13:44 GMT
#439
On June 13 2011 22:35 Caesarion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 22:28 snotboogie wrote:
On June 13 2011 22:23 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Just watched today's episode and the part about Tyrion's wife is so sad when he finds out from Jaime that she actually wasn't a whore my heart broke with his.


Is that in the books? I don't remember that, I thought she was actually a whore.


Oh, have you read A Feast for Crows yet?

+ Show Spoiler +
It's the main reason why he killed his father


Oh really, I totally don't remember that. It's been years. Thanks for enlightening me =)
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14896 Posts
June 13 2011 13:48 GMT
#440
Wait he found that out already? wtf?!
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