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Sylverin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States480 Posts
June 24 2013 04:25 GMT
#421
To be fair, I havent even bothered to look for duplicate answers but the entire Ender's Game/Shadow series are both fantastic for sci-fi. and for fantasy other than the blatent obvious ones like LotR and GoT.....I would say The Innocent Mage by Karen Miller is an absoulutely fabulous read. I haven't read the sequels yet, but The Innocent Mage is the first book I've read in a while that's completely had me transfixed from start to finish.
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GhostLink
Profile Joined January 2011
United States450 Posts
June 24 2013 04:39 GMT
#422
A Song of Ice and Fire is a definite number 1, but because everyone's named it already, I'll name some of the less superior books but still readable (well, they're pretty good).

The Broken Empire (Prince of Thorns, King of Thorns, Emperor of Thorns).
Robin Hobb (I have not read all of her books, but from what I have read so far I love it).

I'm very limited on my fantasy reading list, as I just recently got into the genre.
Let a man play chess, and tell him that every pawn is his friend. Let him think both bishops holy. Let him remember happy days in the shadows of his castles. Let him love his queen. Watch him lose them all.
Rainmaker5
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1027 Posts
June 24 2013 04:41 GMT
#423
On June 24 2013 13:19 Just_a_Moth wrote:
The Kingkiller books are a good series, but they're pretty much the story of a super smart, super fit, pretty attractive guy who gets friendzoned super hard and then still can't get laid so he goes and bangs a porn star instead. Rothfuss is a good writer though, if he wasn't the books would be terrible.

This is the best discription I've read of the series.

For a recommendation- one author to check out is Brent Weeks. Night Angel trilogy is sweet enough, but the Lightbringer Series is really shaping up. Great author for characterizations and world-building with a lot of different angles. Night Angel trilogy is a bit cluttered, but he manages to juggle perspectives and plot-lines really well. Lightbringer is his second series and a bit more polished.
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Zyrnak
Profile Joined February 2011
United States179 Posts
June 24 2013 04:54 GMT
#424
If the Dresden Files haven't been mentioned yet, they're worth the read. Interesting main character, interesting world, and a lot of books. #15 is coming out in December. And unlike many other series (like Wheel of Time books 7-10), the main plot gets more interesting with each book, while the individual books don't stagnate.
Panda86
Profile Joined June 2013
19 Posts
June 24 2013 12:26 GMT
#425
On June 24 2013 13:19 Just_a_Moth wrote:
The Kingkiller books are a good series, but they're pretty much the story of a super smart, super fit, pretty attractive guy who gets friendzoned super hard and then still can't get laid so he goes and bangs a porn star instead. Rothfuss is a good writer though, if he wasn't the books would be terrible.


In a way this is true however I think the most interesting part of the book is the fact that a legend is never what he appears to be. Kvothe is credited with having done all these things and the stories of his actions spread all over the world. However half of the things he is credited with he didn't actually do. The other half extenuating circumstances led to what other people percieved to be something supernatural. Like when he is whipped at the school and doesn't bleed. Everyone assumes he is this supernatural creature because he was whipped and didn't bleed but truth be told he had taken something to numb himself and prevent him from bleeding that he learned about from reading a book.

That is what I think the best part of the book is about. Watching a legend become a legend. Learning that everything isn't what it seems. He's just a normal guy yes slightly gifted that has been in some interesting situations and handled them like a boss and got a reputation for it. Granted the whole Felurian sequence is pretty ridiculous and imo the only thing that doesn't really fit in the books but hey nothgin wrong with fucking a sex godess.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44270 Posts
June 24 2013 14:02 GMT
#426
On October 26 2004 21:03 DarkGhost]Coon[ wrote:
The books by Blizzard! They're very good. And especially interesting if you played the games.



not all books are good .. but i kinda liked the starcraft liberty's crusade
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44270 Posts
June 24 2013 14:14 GMT
#427
A song of ice and fire by George RR Martin (no need to tell why this)
~Game of Thrones
~Clash of Kings
~storm of swords
~feast of crows
~ a dance with dragons


Percy Jackson & the Olympians by rick riordan ( target age readers is for teens so this is entertaining .. this one is really entertaining)
~ The Lightning Thief
~ The Sea of Monsters
~ The Titan's Curse
~ The Battle of the Labyrinth
~ The Last Olympian
the expansion below
~ The Lost Hero
~The Son of Neptune
~ The Mark of Athena

time travelers wife(if you want romance that is unique that has adult scenes)

Haruhi Suzumiya series (there is an anime but its actually based on a novel)

world war z(the movie and the book is absolutely not the same .. intelligently written book .. for hardcore zombie fans and also for nonfan ones .. it focuses on human emotion rather than the zombies.. it focuses on multiple P.O.V.)

this is a quote
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 14:26:21
June 24 2013 14:23 GMT
#428
On October 26 2004 21:18 Mark wrote:
- All books by David Eddings... his Belgariad and Mallorean are awesome.

- Also Sword of Shannara series by Terry Brooks.

- Wheel of Time

Mark, you have exquisite taste!

These authors/series are some of my personal favorites. Also add the Kingkiller Chronicle by Patrick Rothfuss.

I don't think this has been mentioned, but some of the best writing in a fantasy series is found in The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant by Stephen R. Donaldson.

The writing, plot, and characters are all superb.
Nesto
Profile Joined November 2009
Switzerland1318 Posts
June 24 2013 20:27 GMT
#429
On June 24 2013 21:26 Panda86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 13:19 Just_a_Moth wrote:
The Kingkiller books are a good series, but they're pretty much the story of a super smart, super fit, pretty attractive guy who gets friendzoned super hard and then still can't get laid so he goes and bangs a porn star instead. Rothfuss is a good writer though, if he wasn't the books would be terrible.


In a way this is true however I think the most interesting part of the book is the fact that a legend is never what he appears to be. Kvothe is credited with having done all these things and the stories of his actions spread all over the world. However half of the things he is credited with he didn't actually do. The other half extenuating circumstances led to what other people percieved to be something supernatural. Like when he is whipped at the school and doesn't bleed. Everyone assumes he is this supernatural creature because he was whipped and didn't bleed but truth be told he had taken something to numb himself and prevent him from bleeding that he learned about from reading a book.

That is what I think the best part of the book is about. Watching a legend become a legend. Learning that everything isn't what it seems. He's just a normal guy yes slightly gifted that has been in some interesting situations and handled them like a boss and got a reputation for it. Granted the whole Felurian sequence is pretty ridiculous and imo the only thing that doesn't really fit in the books but hey nothgin wrong with fucking a sex godess.


It's not like the whole thing ended with Felurian. Immediately after being back from Felurians realm he of course had to hump some tavern wench for a couple of days, before fucking his way through the Adem - an inbreeding warrior cult with a swinger mentality - and of course doing his sword teacher first, who said something along the lines of - "you can't fight with this boner, it throws you off balance, do you want to take care of it yourself or do you need a partner".

The whole thing read like the fantasies of a 15 year old virgin.
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
June 24 2013 20:43 GMT
#430
On June 25 2013 05:27 Nesto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 21:26 Panda86 wrote:
On June 24 2013 13:19 Just_a_Moth wrote:
The Kingkiller books are a good series, but they're pretty much the story of a super smart, super fit, pretty attractive guy who gets friendzoned super hard and then still can't get laid so he goes and bangs a porn star instead. Rothfuss is a good writer though, if he wasn't the books would be terrible.


In a way this is true however I think the most interesting part of the book is the fact that a legend is never what he appears to be. Kvothe is credited with having done all these things and the stories of his actions spread all over the world. However half of the things he is credited with he didn't actually do. The other half extenuating circumstances led to what other people percieved to be something supernatural. Like when he is whipped at the school and doesn't bleed. Everyone assumes he is this supernatural creature because he was whipped and didn't bleed but truth be told he had taken something to numb himself and prevent him from bleeding that he learned about from reading a book.

That is what I think the best part of the book is about. Watching a legend become a legend. Learning that everything isn't what it seems. He's just a normal guy yes slightly gifted that has been in some interesting situations and handled them like a boss and got a reputation for it. Granted the whole Felurian sequence is pretty ridiculous and imo the only thing that doesn't really fit in the books but hey nothgin wrong with fucking a sex godess.


It's not like the whole thing ended with Felurian. Immediately after being back from Felurians realm he of course had to hump some tavern wench for a couple of days, before fucking his way through the Adem - an inbreeding warrior cult with a swinger mentality - and of course doing his sword teacher first, who said something along the lines of - "you can't fight with this boner, it throws you off balance, do you want to take care of it yourself or do you need a partner".

The whole thing read like the fantasies of a 15 year old virgin.


Yeah, the second book was such a trainwreck. Really quite sad, as the first one was very good and had so much potential. Ah well, maybe third one will be good again ^^
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Asol
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden109 Posts
June 24 2013 20:55 GMT
#431
On June 25 2013 05:27 Nesto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 21:26 Panda86 wrote:
On June 24 2013 13:19 Just_a_Moth wrote:
The Kingkiller books are a good series, but they're pretty much the story of a super smart, super fit, pretty attractive guy who gets friendzoned super hard and then still can't get laid so he goes and bangs a porn star instead. Rothfuss is a good writer though, if he wasn't the books would be terrible.


In a way this is true however I think the most interesting part of the book is the fact that a legend is never what he appears to be. Kvothe is credited with having done all these things and the stories of his actions spread all over the world. However half of the things he is credited with he didn't actually do. The other half extenuating circumstances led to what other people percieved to be something supernatural. Like when he is whipped at the school and doesn't bleed. Everyone assumes he is this supernatural creature because he was whipped and didn't bleed but truth be told he had taken something to numb himself and prevent him from bleeding that he learned about from reading a book.

That is what I think the best part of the book is about. Watching a legend become a legend. Learning that everything isn't what it seems. He's just a normal guy yes slightly gifted that has been in some interesting situations and handled them like a boss and got a reputation for it. Granted the whole Felurian sequence is pretty ridiculous and imo the only thing that doesn't really fit in the books but hey nothgin wrong with fucking a sex godess.


It's not like the whole thing ended with Felurian. Immediately after being back from Felurians realm he of course had to hump some tavern wench for a couple of days, before fucking his way through the Adem - an inbreeding warrior cult with a swinger mentality - and of course doing his sword teacher first, who said something along the lines of - "you can't fight with this boner, it throws you off balance, do you want to take care of it yourself or do you need a partner".

The whole thing read like the fantasies of a 15 year old virgin.



I think that the point of Felurian was partly because he felt that the series needed more sex and that Kvothe has to be "spectacular". But I think the main part of adding her was because it was getting dull. Kvothe stuck in a forest god knows where trying to find bandits whilst working with quite frankly boring characters? We needed something to spicy things up, and also we get to see how Kvothe actually starts to become a legend. This wasn't some made up story - Bast had been talking about how Kvothe was seen as a hero and thus started to act like one.

This just proves the point that Kvothe is starting to become a real legend - he didn't just make up shit anymore, it's happening. Felurian affected literally everything even after he left her, it affected his relationship with Denna and gave him the Shaed. We got to meet the Ctaeh and started to get clues on the Chandrian. We got a hint about the Door of Stone, we learned more about the Moon and the Fae civilization in general...

Not to mention the awesome writing in the Felurian chapters, I fucking loved the rhymes that shit was good.
Quote what?
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1968 Posts
June 24 2013 20:59 GMT
#432
On June 25 2013 05:43 Lann555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 05:27 Nesto wrote:
On June 24 2013 21:26 Panda86 wrote:
On June 24 2013 13:19 Just_a_Moth wrote:
The Kingkiller books are a good series, but they're pretty much the story of a super smart, super fit, pretty attractive guy who gets friendzoned super hard and then still can't get laid so he goes and bangs a porn star instead. Rothfuss is a good writer though, if he wasn't the books would be terrible.


In a way this is true however I think the most interesting part of the book is the fact that a legend is never what he appears to be. Kvothe is credited with having done all these things and the stories of his actions spread all over the world. However half of the things he is credited with he didn't actually do. The other half extenuating circumstances led to what other people percieved to be something supernatural. Like when he is whipped at the school and doesn't bleed. Everyone assumes he is this supernatural creature because he was whipped and didn't bleed but truth be told he had taken something to numb himself and prevent him from bleeding that he learned about from reading a book.

That is what I think the best part of the book is about. Watching a legend become a legend. Learning that everything isn't what it seems. He's just a normal guy yes slightly gifted that has been in some interesting situations and handled them like a boss and got a reputation for it. Granted the whole Felurian sequence is pretty ridiculous and imo the only thing that doesn't really fit in the books but hey nothgin wrong with fucking a sex godess.


It's not like the whole thing ended with Felurian. Immediately after being back from Felurians realm he of course had to hump some tavern wench for a couple of days, before fucking his way through the Adem - an inbreeding warrior cult with a swinger mentality - and of course doing his sword teacher first, who said something along the lines of - "you can't fight with this boner, it throws you off balance, do you want to take care of it yourself or do you need a partner".

The whole thing read like the fantasies of a 15 year old virgin.


Yeah, the second book was such a trainwreck. Really quite sad, as the first one was very good and had so much potential. Ah well, maybe third one will be good again ^^

Yeah, the best parts are the parts which don't get much attention, like the little myths now and then and the stuff about hte Chandrian. But the first book was significantly better.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
June 25 2013 00:00 GMT
#433
On June 24 2013 23:23 tili wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2004 21:18 Mark wrote:
- All books by David Eddings... his Belgariad and Mallorean are awesome.

- Also Sword of Shannara series by Terry Brooks.

- Wheel of Time

Mark, you have exquisite taste!

These authors/series are some of my personal favorites. Also add the Kingkiller Chronicle by Patrick Rothfuss.

I don't think this has been mentioned, but some of the best writing in a fantasy series is found in The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant by Stephen R. Donaldson.

The writing, plot, and characters are all superb.


If you want a lighter read that always reminded me of Covenant (the whole ordinary guy sucked into magical world) you can't go wrong with Terry Brooks' Magic Kingdom for Sale books. Well, except maybe the ones once they have a daughter, those get a bit...odd.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 25 2013 00:38 GMT
#434
I read these books that were very good by Elizabeth Hayden. I can't remember what they were all called but the first one was Rhapsody. I've read a lot of the books in this thread and I liked these ones as much as any of them.
mainerd
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States347 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 01:20:07
June 25 2013 00:43 GMT
#435
The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress by Robert Heinlein

excellent sci fi!

Edit: Book teaser (from Amazon): + Show Spoiler +
It is a tale of revolution, of the rebellion of the former Lunar penal colony against the Lunar Authority that controls it from Earth. It is the tale of the disparate people--a computer technician, a vigorous young female agitator, and an elderly academic--who become the rebel movement's leaders. And it is the story of Mike, the supercomputer whose sentience is known only to this inner circle, and who for reasons of his own is committed to the revolution's ultimate success.
"Let me tell you, in eSTRO we had some circle jerks, straight up. It wasn't pretty." -NonY
CaM27
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium392 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 14:42:29
June 25 2013 14:41 GMT
#436
Hi folks,

I was about to buy the dark tower series (8 books) of stephen king. I made a quick enquiry through email to a bookshop, they tell me it's 19€ in english per book. 162€ total.

Is it worth the big investment? (question towards the peeps that read the series)

regards
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 15:18:01
June 25 2013 14:59 GMT
#437
Pretty much everything that Panda88 said on the last page is good. I've probably read 500+ books, the majority of which were fantasy/sci-fi, so here are my recs in no particular order:

The Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe is considered one of the best fantasy/sci-fi series of all time.

First Law series and all the stand-alone offshoots by Joe Abercrombie are popular and good "grimdark".

The Long Price Quartet and Dagger and Coin by Daniel Abrahams. Both sort of slow but very atmospheric with great worldbuilding and characters.

Takeshi Kovacs series by Richard Morgan. Altered Carbon, the first, was best in my opinion.

Caine Series by Matthew Stover

Neuromancer by William Golding

Hyperion by Dan Simmons

I do have some love for the Kingkiller Chronicles by Patrick Rothfuss. The character is a bit of a Mary Sue in some sense, but he makes mistakes all the time due to hubris, and the whole background atmosphere of the book is that he's made some terrible mistakes in his past. The book is told from his point of view and it's established that he's arrogant so he probably exaggerates. Minor spoilers I guess? The second book shows that he's generally book smart and when he gets out into the real world he falls behind other students a bit, other characters accomplish things before he does, etc.

The Gentleman Bastards series by Scott Lynch, pretty fun, semi-light reads.

Game of Thrones by George R.R. Martin obviously.

Farseer Trilogy and other series by Robin Hobb. Very slow-paced and focused on the characters, so it's not exactly some fast-paced action book.

Dresden Files by Jim Butcher. Light-read urban fantasy. Gets significantly better later on. Pretty amusing.

Way of Kings by Brandon Sanderson. Only first book of 10, but 1000 pages long. I enjoyed it. Not the zenith of fantasy but good. Brandon Sanderson pushes out books like a machine so I don't expect to wait as long as a Martin or Rothfuss book.

Bas-Lag series by China Mieville is some crazy weird fiction. Perdido Street Station, The Scar, and Iron Council are all great in their own way. I'm also a fan of The City & The City...a sort of surreal noir novel.

The whole Empire of Thorns series by Mark Lawrence is okay. It's one of those series where you aren't blown away by it but you sit down and read them the book in one sitting.

Chronicles of Amber by Roger Zelazny also reminds me of the Empire of Thorns series. They're not remotely alike, but in the sense that you won't be blown away but you can't stop reading. I'm also a huge fan of his novel Lord of Light, though I feel (like a lot of Zelazny) it's somewhat incomplete and a slight rewrite would make it a masterpiece.

Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson is good fun and perhaps the most accessible of his books IMO.

Enjoyed The Prince of Nothing trilogy by R. Scott Bakker. I read the Judging Eye (first book of the Aspect-Emperor) which is the sequel trilogy and I just felt no desire to read the next for some reason. Maybe I will when the third book is out.

I've read some Malazan books. For some reason they never captured my attention. Weird stuff, a bit daunting. Enjoyable though.

I like The Black Company series by Glen Cook and I think I read them all. It's a light series and not phenomenal, but I did have a desire to read all ten books. This would be low down on my list of recommendations if this was in order.

I saw some guy reading Blood Song by Anthony Ryan earlier and it has great reviews. I'm reading it now but can't get over the abysmal grammar. Maybe I just have a weird version of when it was self-published (I think?) before a real editor got into it but it's very jarring. Looking forward to see if it lives up to the hype though.

May edit in some more later.
NIIINO
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Slovakia1320 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 15:02:48
June 25 2013 15:00 GMT
#438
On June 25 2013 23:41 CaM27 wrote:
Hi folks,

I was about to buy the dark tower series (8 books) of stephen king. I made a quick enquiry through email to a bookshop, they tell me it's 19€ in english per book. 162€ total.

Is it worth the big investment? (question towards the peeps that read the series)

regards

I think you should buy the multimedia reader or a small tablet. You can get it pretty cheap these days. It goes a little bit over 60euros. If you can / want to read in english and you read at least 4 books per year its worth it. And you dont have to use it only for reading books. Aaaaand I will stop right here because Im sick of seeing myself trying to sell things over internet

EDIT: If you like Sci-fi read novel named CITY by Simak (not sure if spelled right) Its awesome.
LatscherGnu
Profile Joined July 2011
28 Posts
June 29 2013 15:54 GMT
#439
On June 19 2013 04:44 ssxsilver wrote:
Haven't seen this mentioned yet, but I'd highly recommend Blood Song by Anthony Ryan.

People who like The Kingkiller Chronicles should enjoy it as it's written in the same style of coming-of-age/chronicler narrative. I kinda felt it too similar while reading through the introductory chapters, but once you get deeper into the book, the overall feel takes a drastic turn into grittier fantasy.

Where as the central theme of KKC (at times) felt like it drifted into Kvothe's quest to get laid, Blood Song seemed a bit more focused on this greater conspiracy and the main character's role in all of it. Don't really want to spoil anything, but the ending was quite the shocker for me.

Anyhow, the sequel is due in 2014 and I wouldnt' be surprised if Ryan ends up in the same conversation with Abercrombie, Abraham, Rothfuss, Lynch by then (popular fantasy writers outside of Martin). So yea, read it and you can be hipsters too!


Read it on your recommendation and wasn't disappointed, once the plot picks up it really keeps the pages turning, looking forward to the sequel. Far from amazing in terms of world building imho but it is his first book and i don't fault him for sticking to what works and just telling his very good story. If he improves he might indeed become on of the best
Microchaton
Profile Joined March 2011
France342 Posts
June 29 2013 16:00 GMT
#440
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Award_for_Best_Novel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebula_Award_for_Best_Novel

Winners are pretty safe bets, half of those are major classics

Favorite "new" authors as of late : Brandon Sanderson, Joe Abercrombie
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