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Discussing the show and past episodes is fine. Do not put things that have happened in the TV series in spoilers. However, don't spoil things from the books that may happen in future episodes. Put book spoilers in spoiler tags with a CLEAR WARNING that it is from the book.
peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 21:54:54
March 19 2012 21:39 GMT
#3961
On March 20 2012 03:11 Blisse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 01:55 wo1fwood wrote:
hmmm... after this episode I'm actually debating if I should continue to watch. Some of it seemed rather, well forced. Scratch that, a lot of it seemed forced. Like why the walkers were migrating in the first place (GET TO THE CHOPPAHH!)? How about the zombies casually limping towards Hershel in such a convenient manner that he gets to stay alive (forgot how to run huh)? Next the death of Hershel's daughter, whats her name Patricia, as all of a sudden a ninja zombie jumps her at the most convenient time, and BAM, we have some drama (oh wait you were laughing at that? :/). Also, why is Laurie upset that Shane got killed by Rick based on her past behavior??

I'm reeaally trying to just sit and enjoy this show without over-analyzing, but jesus they're making it hard for me. Sorry that was a little harsher than I normally try to be
Also, lol

Finally at the guy mad about the tires, even for consistency, you only notice these things if you nitpick about the episode most of the time. I'd rather they be not consistent and use the right tires than have Daryl slip and injure himself? Here's a bunch of Matrix mistakes that seem to be much worse than replacing tires and from a major producer.


Oh no I wasn't mad about the tires, I noticed the tires because the other guy was talking about the new character's blade not being the right way up. Believe me, I will be the first to defend the show, I love it and I think the people that are "nitpicking" it need to calm down.

On March 20 2012 05:33 Jayson X wrote:
Awesome finally :D
Oh man we're gonna have to wait a looong time for the next season :\

Way too many haters and whiners in here. God it's such a downer reading your stuff. I'm out of this thread.


Yeah I think that I'm with you on this one, come into this thread to talk about the show, predict what is going to happen next and how cool and awesome the show is. But this thread is actually just a bunch of people whining about what a bad show it is (which is totally isn't) how many inconsistencies there are, and what zombies are "suppose" to do...
EdSlyB
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Portugal1621 Posts
March 19 2012 21:52 GMT
#3962
On March 20 2012 05:47 Ballack wrote:
Hershel sure had a lot of bullets in that shotgun..


I noticed that too...lol
aka Wardo
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
March 19 2012 22:05 GMT
#3963
On March 20 2012 06:52 EdSlyB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 05:47 Ballack wrote:
Hershel sure had a lot of bullets in that shotgun..


I noticed that too...lol

No recoil either. He was dominating!
Wishing you well.
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
March 19 2012 22:08 GMT
#3964
After watching all episodes and not having the patience to wait for the fall I started reading the comics and boy are they refreshing. Characters are so much different, the pace is better.. well everything is better really. I know this isn't new - I started reading the comics long ago but they never got me interested (I guess comparing to the first few episodes of season 1 the comics didnt have much effect) until now. Comparing the comics to season 2 of walking dead is pretty funny. They fucked up reeaaally bad with the production. Let's hope for a better season 3... and now I know what's going to happen - but in a shittier version.
purecarnagge
Profile Joined August 2010
719 Posts
March 19 2012 22:08 GMT
#3965
On March 20 2012 05:47 Ballack wrote:
Hershel sure had a lot of bullets in that shotgun..


did you guys not see him loading it...they were shooting blanks....why are people trying to nit pick every little detail. He loaded the thing..you saw him doing it... they kept coming back to him..I mean you want to see the guy reload shoot reload shoot... for 2 minutes straight...instead of jumping around to whats happening to everyone else...

I honestly wonder if they reused footage of the zombies advancing up to the house and him shooting...but thats just me...wouldn't surprise me either way..but it did show him loading..just like andrea...and others... Daryl was out and they were close to the barbwire...
Fix637
Profile Joined February 2011
United States256 Posts
March 19 2012 22:15 GMT
#3966
I'm really not sure how I feel about the way they're painting Rick towards the end. The entire group is starting to see him in a very negative light, which is understandable to a certain extent. He's become a cold man, but that's what leadership requires in a situation like that.

I feel like the group is angry because he's taking complete control and tells them straight up "this is no longer a democracy." But really, isn't that what they wanted? They've been seeing him as their leader for the entire show, trying to force all the burden and responsibility of tough decision making on him. But now that they're cold and scared, they're starting to turn against him.

I hope that we see some redemption for Rick in the eyes of the group. Hopefully they will see that he is fundamentally a good person, but he has to be a leader and that requires doing what is best for people whether they like it or not.
tokicheese
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada739 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 22:36:44
March 19 2012 22:31 GMT
#3967
The fuck no body asked about that guy who died in the trailer rofl

I guess even people in the show forgot about him...

I cant really blame rick for acting like that. Half of the group is fucking retarded and constantly bitching about his decisions.

Lori makes me want to stop watching the show. She is so unbelievable as a character, she tells rick to kill shane and then she gets all pissed off?. If rick had just walked away without carl randomly showing up they would still be safe on the farm and the horde would have just kept walking. Maybe zombie shane would show up and they could just quietly dispatch of him.

Also How does carl manage to sneak away.... They didnt have someone watching each door? Lori doesnt keep carl by her side after almost dying for the 10000000000th time? The fuck is she doing? Some guy is on the loose and she lets her kid get away so fucking stupid. Lori is the worst mother in the universe and carl does the exact same amount of stupid shit as his mom. Apple doesnt fall far from the tree i guess...
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ballasdontcry
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 22:39:25
March 19 2012 22:33 GMT
#3968
so basically the writers are just turning rick into shane v2.0 minus the hair shaving crazy.

i just don't get the whole barn shoot 'em up scene at all. herschel at least had a reason to stay (at least until rick convinced him that he had to gtfo) to defend his farm. everyone else just felt like playing grand theft auto on the farm? isn't their goal to escape?

michonne might be the one character needed to badass up this show and de-pussify some of the characters... looking forward to it.
Sofestafont
Profile Joined May 2011
United States83 Posts
March 19 2012 22:40 GMT
#3969
I wish more characters would have died. They killed the two most obvious characters and considering the situation I expected higher casualties. The guy in the trailer died like a chump. From what I remember he had a bunch of zombies slamming on the front window and he casually stands up and then its 'oh shit that door is open.' Daryl continues to be awesome, "today is as good as any (in regards to dying)."
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
March 19 2012 22:42 GMT
#3970
On March 20 2012 03:03 blug wrote:
Also, I'm a bit confused as to how zombies don't die either after a while. I can understand the logic of them running off of bare minimum energy, and sure, that could last for 1-2 years, but honestly, it's unrealistic to run any longer than that, you simply need an energy source to survive.



Newsflash - Zombies are already dead. They're kept "alive" by a virus, which is in their brain. Hence, once you destroy the brain, you destroy the virus and thus "kill" the zombie. Just think of them as puppets.
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
March 19 2012 22:43 GMT
#3971
On March 20 2012 07:31 tokicheese wrote:
The fuck no body asked about that guy who died in the trailer rofl

I guess even people in the show forgot about him...

I cant really blame rick for acting like that. Half of the group is fucking retarded and constantly bitching about his decisions.

Lori makes me want to stop watching the show. She is so unbelievable as a character, she tells rick to kill shane and then she gets all pissed off?. If rick had just walked away without carl randomly showing up they would still be safe on the farm and the horde would have just kept walking. Maybe zombie shane would show up and they could just quietly dispatch of him.

Also How does carl manage to sneak away.... They didnt have someone watching each door? Lori doesnt keep carl by her side after almost dying for the 10000000000th time? The fuck is she doing? Some guy is on the loose and she lets her kid get away so fucking stupid. Lori is the worst mother in the universe and carl does the exact same amount of stupid shit as his mom. Apple doesnt fall far from the tree i guess...


they did ask about him, and rick said he got overrun in the trailer
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
March 19 2012 22:44 GMT
#3972
On March 20 2012 07:31 tokicheese wrote:
Lori makes me want to stop watching the show. She is so unbelievable as a character, she tells rick to kill shane and then she gets all pissed off?

wow I forgot about that.. such a stupid reaction lori had
can't believe rick has to put so much effort in to explain himself to the others
the grey hair woman and lori need to croak asap
buickskylark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada664 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 22:53:32
March 19 2012 22:49 GMT
#3973
On March 20 2012 07:43 Kira__ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 07:31 tokicheese wrote:
The fuck no body asked about that guy who died in the trailer rofl

I guess even people in the show forgot about him...

I cant really blame rick for acting like that. Half of the group is fucking retarded and constantly bitching about his decisions.

Lori makes me want to stop watching the show. She is so unbelievable as a character, she tells rick to kill shane and then she gets all pissed off?. If rick had just walked away without carl randomly showing up they would still be safe on the farm and the horde would have just kept walking. Maybe zombie shane would show up and they could just quietly dispatch of him.

Also How does carl manage to sneak away.... They didnt have someone watching each door? Lori doesnt keep carl by her side after almost dying for the 10000000000th time? The fuck is she doing? Some guy is on the loose and she lets her kid get away so fucking stupid. Lori is the worst mother in the universe and carl does the exact same amount of stupid shit as his mom. Apple doesnt fall far from the tree i guess...


they did ask about him, and rick said he got overrun in the trailer


Yeah but the whole sequence around his death was stupid. Rick and Carl jumps onto the RV and instead of flooring it he gets up his seat and a bunch of zombies grab him and eat him. In fact, it seems like the Greene family has a knack for dying under the dumbest circumstances. Patricia was snatched by a leaping zombie that seemed to have the reflex of a Jamaican sprinter.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
March 19 2012 22:51 GMT
#3974
On March 20 2012 07:44 Assault_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 07:31 tokicheese wrote:
Lori makes me want to stop watching the show. She is so unbelievable as a character, she tells rick to kill shane and then she gets all pissed off?

wow I forgot about that.. such a stupid reaction lori had
can't believe rick has to put so much effort in to explain himself to the others
the grey hair woman and lori need to croak asap


The explanation from the writers is that Lori is most of all disgusted with herself. She knows now that she played a role in Shane dying, that she has been the reason that there was conflict between Rick and Shane and that she is responsible for Carl getting 'colder'.

It wasn't acted very well though. I agree with that. But this way it at least makes a bit of sense.
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tokicheese
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada739 Posts
March 19 2012 22:52 GMT
#3975
On March 20 2012 07:49 buickskylark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 07:43 Kira__ wrote:
On March 20 2012 07:31 tokicheese wrote:
The fuck no body asked about that guy who died in the trailer rofl

I guess even people in the show forgot about him...

I cant really blame rick for acting like that. Half of the group is fucking retarded and constantly bitching about his decisions.

Lori makes me want to stop watching the show. She is so unbelievable as a character, she tells rick to kill shane and then she gets all pissed off?. If rick had just walked away without carl randomly showing up they would still be safe on the farm and the horde would have just kept walking. Maybe zombie shane would show up and they could just quietly dispatch of him.

Also How does carl manage to sneak away.... They didnt have someone watching each door? Lori doesnt keep carl by her side after almost dying for the 10000000000th time? The fuck is she doing? Some guy is on the loose and she lets her kid get away so fucking stupid. Lori is the worst mother in the universe and carl does the exact same amount of stupid shit as his mom. Apple doesnt fall far from the tree i guess...


they did ask about him, and rick said he got overrun in the trailer


Yeah but the whole sequence around his death was stupid. Rick and Carl jumps onto the ATV and instead of flooring it he gets up his seat and a bunch of zombies grab him and eat him. In fact, it seems like the Greene family has a knack for dying under the dumbest circumstances. Patricia was snatched by a leaping zombie that seemed to have the reflex of a Jamaican sprinter.

Ahh my bad must have missed it ;(

Yeah i was crying at the stupid when he died. Let me stop and take a piss before we go. Why not just drive with rick and carl on the roof >.>
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 23:00:36
March 19 2012 22:55 GMT
#3976
On March 19 2012 23:57 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 23:48 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
People complaining about the two prisoner zombies when you haven't even heard them try to explain it yet.. lol.


I mentioned that Kirkman and Glen talked about that on the aftershow of talking dead. On the last page.


I saw that too last night but that's all speculation when it comes to future episodes (granted the speculation was pretty rational).

It's not relevant anyways, people are already complaining it doesn't make any sense when it hasn't even been properly introduced. People will stoop unbelievably low if it finds something for them to nit pick about, it's a joke.
IamAnton
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada335 Posts
March 19 2012 22:56 GMT
#3977
On March 20 2012 07:51 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 07:44 Assault_1 wrote:
On March 20 2012 07:31 tokicheese wrote:
Lori makes me want to stop watching the show. She is so unbelievable as a character, she tells rick to kill shane and then she gets all pissed off?

wow I forgot about that.. such a stupid reaction lori had
can't believe rick has to put so much effort in to explain himself to the others
the grey hair woman and lori need to croak asap


The explanation from the writers is that Lori is most of all disgusted with herself. She knows now that she played a role in Shane dying, that she has been the reason that there was conflict between Rick and Shane and that she is responsible for Carl getting 'colder'.

It wasn't acted very well though. I agree with that. But this way it at least makes a bit of sense.


Interesting that puts it in much better perspective. Though yeah I find her acting throughout the entire first 2 seasons horrendous.
"Man created God in his own image." - Ludwig Feuerbach
buickskylark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada664 Posts
March 19 2012 22:59 GMT
#3978
On March 20 2012 07:55 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 23:57 Disengaged wrote:
On March 19 2012 23:48 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
People complaining about the two prisoner zombies when you haven't even heard them try to explain it yet.. lol.


I mentioned that Kirkman and Glen talked about that on the aftershow of talking dead. On the last page.


I saw that too last night but that's all speculation when it comes to future episodes (granted the speculation was pretty rational).

It's not relevant anyways, people are already complaining it doesn't make any sense when it hasn't even been properly introduced.


I wish you would quote the people you're talking about because there are different opinions on why people might have a problem with a character like Michonne.
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
March 19 2012 23:01 GMT
#3979
On March 20 2012 07:31 tokicheese wrote:
The fuck no body asked about that guy who died in the trailer rofl

I guess even people in the show forgot about him...

Yeah that was damn funny, I was in a room with a couple of friends that happened and we roared laughing.
Wishing you well.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 23:08:37
March 19 2012 23:02 GMT
#3980
On March 20 2012 07:59 buickskylark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 07:55 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 19 2012 23:57 Disengaged wrote:
On March 19 2012 23:48 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
People complaining about the two prisoner zombies when you haven't even heard them try to explain it yet.. lol.


I mentioned that Kirkman and Glen talked about that on the aftershow of talking dead. On the last page.


I saw that too last night but that's all speculation when it comes to future episodes (granted the speculation was pretty rational).

It's not relevant anyways, people are already complaining it doesn't make any sense when it hasn't even been properly introduced.


I wish you would quote the people you're talking about because there are different opinions on why people might have a problem with a character like Michonne.


I think you're one of them actually.

If you are one of the few who is complaining about how stupid it is that zombies could ever possibly be pacified, then that was directed at you. If that wasn't your complaint, then it wasn't directed at you. The specifics I'm referring to are even in the nestled quotes that you should check if you're iffy on the context of a particular post.

It makes no sense to complain about that when it hasn't even been properly introduced and there's at least one perfectly plausible explanation for it (that I and others, including the after-talk-show guests have already pointed out, regarding animalistic instincts towards habituation of common experiences).
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