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Discussing the show and past episodes is fine. Do not put things that have happened in the TV series in spoilers. However, don't spoil things from the books that may happen in future episodes. Put book spoilers in spoiler tags with a CLEAR WARNING that it is from the book.
pellejohnson
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1931 Posts
March 19 2012 19:52 GMT
#3941
On March 20 2012 01:10 Radioman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 00:50 pellejohnson wrote:
Also can Rick stop over acting whenever he shoots a gun, it's painfully fake watching him swing his whole arm every time he takes a shot


Its a 45 son


That handgun didn't look like a .45 and his revolver I doubt it's a 45. Also I have shot several .45 in my life and neither of them had that kind of recoil. I do realize it comes down to nitpicking and doesn't affect the overall enjoyment of the show but it's just a bit annoying seeing him doing the same all the way since season 1
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
March 19 2012 20:02 GMT
#3942
+ Show Spoiler [COMIC SPOILERS (kinda) DON'T READ] +

FUCK YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES MICHONNE! :D And the prison part is about to begin! If they don't fuck this up season 3 will be EPIC! And hopefully they will introduce the governor, he's a guy I love to hate lol.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 20:12:37
March 19 2012 20:03 GMT
#3943
Thank god for + Show Spoiler +
Michonne
. It's time to inject some samurai sword wielding zombie slaying badassery into this fucking show. Also I'm glad for Rick's rant. He ain't gonna take Lori and Carol's bitching anymore.

Edit: Season finale showed us what we already know. Walking Dead can be a great show if things are moving. It's a shitty one when people stay on a farming jerking off.
Spidinko
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovakia1174 Posts
March 19 2012 20:03 GMT
#3944
On March 20 2012 04:08 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 03:43 Cosmology wrote:
On March 20 2012 03:35 Sentenal wrote:
On March 20 2012 03:29 blug wrote:
On March 20 2012 03:26 Sentenal wrote:
On March 20 2012 03:25 blug wrote:
On March 20 2012 03:11 Blisse wrote:
On March 20 2012 01:55 wo1fwood wrote:
hmmm... after this episode I'm actually debating if I should continue to watch. Some of it seemed rather, well forced. Scratch that, a lot of it seemed forced. Like why the walkers were migrating in the first place (GET TO THE CHOPPAHH!)? How about the zombies casually limping towards Hershel in such a convenient manner that he gets to stay alive (forgot how to run huh)? Next the death of Hershel's daughter, whats her name Patricia, as all of a sudden a ninja zombie jumps her at the most convenient time, and BAM, we have some drama (oh wait you were laughing at that? :/). Also, why is Laurie upset that Shane got killed by Rick based on her past behavior??

I'm reeaally trying to just sit and enjoy this show without over-analyzing, but jesus they're making it hard for me. Sorry that was a little harsher than I normally try to be
Also, lol


First season was a joke. Zombies were running and using rocks. That doesn't happen, ever. And I'm glad that hasn't made a reappearance in the second season.

And "GET TO THE CHOPPAHH!" wtf ?

It's perfectly possible to stand there and take a stand against an infinite number of zombies provided you don't have to reload and you always have a retreat ( and you're never tired ). Andrea showed that enough.

Patricia's death was forced. I couldn't tell if they were paying attention because he came out of nowhere. + Show Spoiler [comic] +
it reminded me of one of the recent comics and the woman holding Carl's hand before Carl ...


Laurie is upset that Rick let Carl use a gun I think. She only reacted when he said that. Otherwise she was okay. Her acting was kinda bad though for the scene, which probably makes it more confusing.

Steven Yeun ( Glenn ) did an AMA on Reddit, I can't find the link though, but he said you're supposed to hate her character.


Finally at the guy mad about the tires, even for consistency, you only notice these things if you nitpick about the episode most of the time. I'd rather they be not consistent and use the right tires than have Daryl slip and injure himself? Here's a bunch of Matrix mistakes that seem to be much worse than replacing tires and from a major producer.


@blug, you need an energy source to survive. As we have not encountered non-organic and non-carbon based lifeforms, we are in no position to say they need energy to survive. It's like asking if Superman needed to eat, which is very debatable. Ideally, walkers should be crawlers, since walking requires memory, but zombies should have no memories of anything. But crawling zombies would be too easy. Running should be impossible, and is, rightly so. It's not about them catching up because they're running, but because you're out of energy ( yay Andrea! ).


If you are able to walk, there is work involved, and with work energy is required, so there must be an energy source. Unless of course it's super natural...

They are zombies, of course they are super natural.


Well, although they could be supernatural, that's assuming that the zombies weren't created through a blunder in science or was a deliberate terrorist type action. It could also be an act of god or something, + Show Spoiler +
Hershel referenced within the comic that it could be an act of god. But to be fair he is a supersticious old man xD

Its not uncommon for science to create things that are supernatural. Zombies by their nature are supernatural, regardless of their origin/reason. Best to not dwell on things like that too much.

Science never creates something super natural and never will...by definition science is the study of nature, and something that is super natural is above nature and not held to laws of nature, and nothing super natural is known to exist and doesn't exist, if the zombies are super natural then they were not created through science and a cure isn't being developed in france...
Science creates all kinds of things which are super natural. For instance, the computer you use does not occur in nature. There are many elements which were created in labs. Pretty sure fast food is super natural too.

That's not what the word "supernatural" means
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/supernatural
jxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil307 Posts
March 19 2012 20:20 GMT
#3945
FUCK YEAH MICHONNE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And what is up with this actress that plays Lori, srsly if they substitute her on the 3rd season I would not be surprised, she is so fucking bad.
blug
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia623 Posts
March 19 2012 20:22 GMT
#3946
Just watched the last episode and it was pretty good. If had to dislike anything about it, it was probably Carl, disgusting acting from him, but not sure if I blame the actor or the writers, after all he is just a kid and they always suck at acting.

I hate Lori to bits, but I'm assuming that what the writer's are going for tbh, she's meant to be the irrational pregnant bitch.

Rick going angry mode was cool, I wasn't to sure about the groups response whether or not they were losing faith or were growing a new respect for their leader.

The Samurai lady was pretty cool, and the 2 zombies standing next to her was quite funny. Having there arms cut off and their jaws ripped of made it so they couldnt do anything =(.

Also I found Jimmy's death to be quite halarious, I also found it quite halarious how no one even made a reference to him, especially considering he was the one who saved Carl's and Rick's life. Dunno. I found humour in it lol.

I also found it dumb when the zombies reached the fence and they couldn't climb over it. Watching back in season 1, you had a zombie climb a fence with ease that was double the height. Infact, the zombies have become dumber since season 1, I am referencing mainly from 1 zombie trying to climb a ladder and 1 zombie breaking a window with a rock. I don't see it as a bad thing though, zombies are meant to be dumb, so the transition is a good thing, however, for consistensies sake it's pretty bad.

The one thing I will say overall however is, I feel like alot of the ending of the season to be forced, I'm not sure if that's because the writers are just being lazy or if it was just intentional. It seemed that alot of things in that final episode happened just so it could stay intact with the comic book, rather than having everything span over the whole series, it spanned over one episode =(.

Meh, I will end my comic book guy rant there lol.

Derp
blug
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia623 Posts
March 19 2012 20:25 GMT
#3947
On March 20 2012 05:20 jxx wrote:
FUCK YEAH MICHONNE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And what is up with this actress that plays Lori, srsly if they substitute her on the 3rd season I would not be surprised, she is so fucking bad.


You're wrong, she is actually an excellent actor. The character was designed to be hated, and that is what she is doing.

Alot of people are mixing up "bad acting" with "bad personality". She's a pregnant irrational woman, she adds flare to the show. Also, I am not making assumptions that you are meant to hate her, the character who plays Glen made a comment recently that she was meant to be hated.
Derp
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
March 19 2012 20:31 GMT
#3948
That chick with the samurai sword is pretty BA lol
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
March 19 2012 20:33 GMT
#3949
Awesome finally :D
Oh man we're gonna have to wait a looong time for the next season :\

Way too many haters and whiners in here. God it's such a downer reading your stuff. I'm out of this thread.
blug
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia623 Posts
March 19 2012 20:34 GMT
#3950
On March 20 2012 05:31 Nekovivie wrote:
That chick with the samurai sword is pretty BA lol


Yeah she's pretty cool, if you want a backdrop of her...


+ Show Spoiler +
The two zombies next to her are actually her brother and boyfriend in the comic book. She uses them as a detterent from other zombies because it masks her scent.

She looks evil as fuck in the tv show, as does she in the comic, however she is quite the contrary, she joins the team and is one of the few rational people and doesn't act dumb like most of the other characters.
Derp
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
March 19 2012 20:37 GMT
#3951
So this is where all the budget went.

- Surprised that Herschel survived. I expected him to refuse to leave the farm, which he did at first, but then he escaped anyway.
- Predictably, most of Herschel's no-name family members died. The useless blonde girl could have died too if it was up to me. Carol, too.
- Lori acts in the dumbest way imaginable, as per usual. No idea why Rick and Shane fancy that dimwitted bitch.
- Andrea has developed into quite a fearsome warrior and hasn't done anything stupid recently. No more reason to hate on her.
- The appearance of the ninja with the amputated zombies in tow was the cheesiest thing I've seen in a long time. I literally burst out laughing, and that says something. That might fit into an anime, but here it's completely out of place. We'll see how that turns out.
- Was that a prison they showed on the very last screen? Sounds like a safe place that can't be overrun. No food or water supply though.

I'm looking forward to season 3. Why do we have to wait so long?
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
March 19 2012 20:39 GMT
#3952
The prison section was pretty brutal in the comics, I wonder if they are gutsy enough to keep some of the stuff on the TV version.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
fbs
Profile Joined February 2003
United Kingdom2476 Posts
March 19 2012 20:39 GMT
#3953
that (the last episode) should have been season 2 episode 3 or 4.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 20:44:19
March 19 2012 20:43 GMT
#3954
On March 20 2012 04:19 InDaHouse wrote:
I like how the zombies are using forestaff from DOTA, in one moment the zombies approx 100 m away, the next moment when camera shiftes postion they have surrounded the house.

Even though the walkers are everywhere around the house, the zombies Hershel shooting appears to advance very slowly against him. And Hershel was the vanguard of the house so how the fuck can the zombies surround the house and start wrecking havoc without first passing by Hershel?

So damn cheesy and all this details of blunders keeps coming back in this series.

That's what I thought at the beginning of the episode when Rick and Carl were running towards the farm away from the herd and suddenly they were everywhere, LOL.

+ Show Spoiler [Comic Spoilers on Prison Arc] +
I wonder if Michonne will get involved with Daryl. I've always thought that T-Dog would eventually follow the same path as Tyreese (maybe he will inherit some aspects), but Daryl seems much more likely. He's the only person in the show who I can imagine taking out an entire group of zombies after being left behind (if the writers include that scene as a homage to the comic) and he's also Carol's knight in shiny armor.
Cosmology
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada360 Posts
March 19 2012 20:44 GMT
#3955
On March 20 2012 04:08 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 03:43 Cosmology wrote:
On March 20 2012 03:35 Sentenal wrote:
On March 20 2012 03:29 blug wrote:
On March 20 2012 03:26 Sentenal wrote:
On March 20 2012 03:25 blug wrote:
On March 20 2012 03:11 Blisse wrote:
On March 20 2012 01:55 wo1fwood wrote:
hmmm... after this episode I'm actually debating if I should continue to watch. Some of it seemed rather, well forced. Scratch that, a lot of it seemed forced. Like why the walkers were migrating in the first place (GET TO THE CHOPPAHH!)? How about the zombies casually limping towards Hershel in such a convenient manner that he gets to stay alive (forgot how to run huh)? Next the death of Hershel's daughter, whats her name Patricia, as all of a sudden a ninja zombie jumps her at the most convenient time, and BAM, we have some drama (oh wait you were laughing at that? :/). Also, why is Laurie upset that Shane got killed by Rick based on her past behavior??

I'm reeaally trying to just sit and enjoy this show without over-analyzing, but jesus they're making it hard for me. Sorry that was a little harsher than I normally try to be
Also, lol


First season was a joke. Zombies were running and using rocks. That doesn't happen, ever. And I'm glad that hasn't made a reappearance in the second season.

And "GET TO THE CHOPPAHH!" wtf ?

It's perfectly possible to stand there and take a stand against an infinite number of zombies provided you don't have to reload and you always have a retreat ( and you're never tired ). Andrea showed that enough.

Patricia's death was forced. I couldn't tell if they were paying attention because he came out of nowhere. + Show Spoiler [comic] +
it reminded me of one of the recent comics and the woman holding Carl's hand before Carl ...


Laurie is upset that Rick let Carl use a gun I think. She only reacted when he said that. Otherwise she was okay. Her acting was kinda bad though for the scene, which probably makes it more confusing.

Steven Yeun ( Glenn ) did an AMA on Reddit, I can't find the link though, but he said you're supposed to hate her character.


Finally at the guy mad about the tires, even for consistency, you only notice these things if you nitpick about the episode most of the time. I'd rather they be not consistent and use the right tires than have Daryl slip and injure himself? Here's a bunch of Matrix mistakes that seem to be much worse than replacing tires and from a major producer.


@blug, you need an energy source to survive. As we have not encountered non-organic and non-carbon based lifeforms, we are in no position to say they need energy to survive. It's like asking if Superman needed to eat, which is very debatable. Ideally, walkers should be crawlers, since walking requires memory, but zombies should have no memories of anything. But crawling zombies would be too easy. Running should be impossible, and is, rightly so. It's not about them catching up because they're running, but because you're out of energy ( yay Andrea! ).


If you are able to walk, there is work involved, and with work energy is required, so there must be an energy source. Unless of course it's super natural...

They are zombies, of course they are super natural.


Well, although they could be supernatural, that's assuming that the zombies weren't created through a blunder in science or was a deliberate terrorist type action. It could also be an act of god or something, + Show Spoiler +
Hershel referenced within the comic that it could be an act of god. But to be fair he is a supersticious old man xD

Its not uncommon for science to create things that are supernatural. Zombies by their nature are supernatural, regardless of their origin/reason. Best to not dwell on things like that too much.

Science never creates something super natural and never will...by definition science is the study of nature, and something that is super natural is above nature and not held to laws of nature, and nothing super natural is known to exist and doesn't exist, if the zombies are super natural then they were not created through science and a cure isn't being developed in france...
Science creates all kinds of things which are super natural. For instance, the computer you use does not occur in nature. There are many elements which were created in labs. Pretty sure fast food is super natural too.

Just because something doesn't occure naturally in nature doesn't make it supernatural, this computer is still natural and part of nature. What you said is an obvious misunderstanding of science and terms.
Somewhere, something amazing is waiting to be known.
Sc2Corpse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States210 Posts
March 19 2012 20:46 GMT
#3956
On March 20 2012 05:02 Necosarius wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [COMIC SPOILERS (kinda) DON'T READ] +

FUCK YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES MICHONNE! :D And the prison part is about to begin! If they don't fuck this up season 3 will be EPIC! And hopefully they will introduce the governor, he's a guy I love to hate lol.



The Governor will be in Season 3, the actor playing him is David Morrissey.
The Zombie Protoss <3
blug
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia623 Posts
March 19 2012 20:47 GMT
#3957
On March 20 2012 05:37 Scorch wrote:
So this is where all the budget went.

- Surprised that Herschel survived. I expected him to refuse to leave the farm, which he did at first, but then he escaped anyway.
- Predictably, most of Herschel's no-name family members died. The useless blonde girl could have died too if it was up to me. Carol, too.
- Lori acts in the dumbest way imaginable, as per usual. No idea why Rick and Shane fancy that dimwitted bitch.
- Andrea has developed into quite a fearsome warrior and hasn't done anything stupid recently. No more reason to hate on her.
- The appearance of the ninja with the amputated zombies in tow was the cheesiest thing I've seen in a long time. I literally burst out laughing, and that says something. That might fit into an anime, but here it's completely out of place. We'll see how that turns out.
- Was that a prison they showed on the very last screen? Sounds like a safe place that can't be overrun. No food or water supply though.

I'm looking forward to season 3. Why do we have to wait so long?


Why is it cheesy? If by cheesy you mean that she rocked up at the very last second to save her then fair enough. If you read the comic though, theres a reasonable explanation why she keeps those zombies near her and honestly, when her character develops shes far from cheesy.
Derp
Ballack
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway821 Posts
March 19 2012 20:47 GMT
#3958
Hershel sure had a lot of bullets in that shotgun..
Just when I thought I was out, Blizz pulled me back in..
Cosmology
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada360 Posts
March 19 2012 20:47 GMT
#3959
On March 20 2012 04:20 Blisse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 03:43 Cosmology wrote:
On March 20 2012 03:35 Sentenal wrote:
On March 20 2012 03:29 blug wrote:
On March 20 2012 03:26 Sentenal wrote:
On March 20 2012 03:25 blug wrote:
On March 20 2012 03:11 Blisse wrote:
On March 20 2012 01:55 wo1fwood wrote:
hmmm... after this episode I'm actually debating if I should continue to watch. Some of it seemed rather, well forced. Scratch that, a lot of it seemed forced. Like why the walkers were migrating in the first place (GET TO THE CHOPPAHH!)? How about the zombies casually limping towards Hershel in such a convenient manner that he gets to stay alive (forgot how to run huh)? Next the death of Hershel's daughter, whats her name Patricia, as all of a sudden a ninja zombie jumps her at the most convenient time, and BAM, we have some drama (oh wait you were laughing at that? :/). Also, why is Laurie upset that Shane got killed by Rick based on her past behavior??

I'm reeaally trying to just sit and enjoy this show without over-analyzing, but jesus they're making it hard for me. Sorry that was a little harsher than I normally try to be
Also, lol


First season was a joke. Zombies were running and using rocks. That doesn't happen, ever. And I'm glad that hasn't made a reappearance in the second season.

And "GET TO THE CHOPPAHH!" wtf ?

It's perfectly possible to stand there and take a stand against an infinite number of zombies provided you don't have to reload and you always have a retreat ( and you're never tired ). Andrea showed that enough.

Patricia's death was forced. I couldn't tell if they were paying attention because he came out of nowhere. + Show Spoiler [comic] +
it reminded me of one of the recent comics and the woman holding Carl's hand before Carl ...


Laurie is upset that Rick let Carl use a gun I think. She only reacted when he said that. Otherwise she was okay. Her acting was kinda bad though for the scene, which probably makes it more confusing.

Steven Yeun ( Glenn ) did an AMA on Reddit, I can't find the link though, but he said you're supposed to hate her character.


Finally at the guy mad about the tires, even for consistency, you only notice these things if you nitpick about the episode most of the time. I'd rather they be not consistent and use the right tires than have Daryl slip and injure himself? Here's a bunch of Matrix mistakes that seem to be much worse than replacing tires and from a major producer.


@blug, you need an energy source to survive. As we have not encountered non-organic and non-carbon based lifeforms, we are in no position to say they need energy to survive. It's like asking if Superman needed to eat, which is very debatable. Ideally, walkers should be crawlers, since walking requires memory, but zombies should have no memories of anything. But crawling zombies would be too easy. Running should be impossible, and is, rightly so. It's not about them catching up because they're running, but because you're out of energy ( yay Andrea! ).


If you are able to walk, there is work involved, and with work energy is required, so there must be an energy source. Unless of course it's super natural...

They are zombies, of course they are super natural.


Well, although they could be supernatural, that's assuming that the zombies weren't created through a blunder in science or was a deliberate terrorist type action. It could also be an act of god or something, + Show Spoiler +
Hershel referenced within the comic that it could be an act of god. But to be fair he is a supersticious old man xD

Its not uncommon for science to create things that are supernatural. Zombies by their nature are supernatural, regardless of their origin/reason. Best to not dwell on things like that too much.

Science never creates something super natural and never will...by definition science is the study of nature, and something that is super natural is above nature and not held to laws of nature, and nothing super natural is known to exist and doesn't exist, if the zombies are super natural then they were not created through science and a cure isn't being developed in france...


Science is based on observations. If something exists that's not held to laws of nature, as scientists we re-evaluate our law of nature. Reality doesn't bend to the definition. We fit the definition into reality, and if reality changes, so does our definition. If something's supernatural, it means we have no explanation for it; it doesn't fit into our "nature." But if it's an observable fact, and not a random anomaly, we will change our definition of "nature" so it does fit into it.

Shorter version. If somehow in Rick's world they created this epidemic, then it's part of their "nature" now. Not ours. And in this alternate universe, those are the rules that apply. You die, you become a zombie. Science is again, observations about what happens. If you turn into a zombie when you die, then that's science.

We're really talking about dumb things nowadays... it's fiction. Leave it at that.

@above, er, the magic of fast forwarding 30 seconds, or even that Hershel is at the front but the herd is so massive it's completely around, but the gun fire draws them closer. I don't find that as bad as an inconsistency as you do, versus other points of the show/episode.

No, again you don't understand the terms you're using, supernatural is not how we explain something science can't explain. period. Supernatural is a term used for things like ghosts and demons. What you're thinking of is an anomaly and yes we change our laws of nature if through much scientific scruitiny the anomaly is proven to be something that warrants a change of how we perceive that law.
Somewhere, something amazing is waiting to be known.
Milestoned
Profile Joined February 2012
United States36 Posts
March 19 2012 21:33 GMT
#3960
TWD seems like it's getting back and track, and s3 will make s2 feel like a bad dream.

I think some of the lame, boring, little house on the prairie-ness of s2 can be attributed to the Darabont situation.

Frank Darabont was reason TWD came to be. He assembled most of the crew and cast members. He oversaw the entire 1st season and the first 3 episodes of the 2nd season.

After he left, there was a transition period that left an inconsistency that could be felt by the crew, cast, and the viewers.

Hopefully s3 of TWD TV show can get back on track to be the bold, gory, post-apocalyptic epic that is TWD graphic novel.

With what the introduction of Michonne and the prison setting in s3 implies, in regards to the graphic novel, I hope the writers and producers of the show aren't afraid to go above and beyond with the gore, drama, twists, shock and awe.

Below is a Comic series spoiler about Michonne. DO NOT OPEN if you don't want to know some potential events that could unfold in season 3.
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Comic series spoiler about Michonne
Michonne first appeared on the road at an unknown distance away from The Prison clothed under a hood, she pulled the shackled zombies of her boyfriend and his best friend along by chain to act as a deterrent to the undead. She cut off their arms and lower jaws so that they wouldn't attack her.

After several months at the prison, Michonne, along with Rick and Glenn, were part of the group that went to investigate the crash of a helicopter. It was during their travel to find the source of the occupant's disappearance that she revealed parts of her past before the epidemic. When the trio stumbled upon the town of Woodbury, Georgia, Michonne became a tragic victim of a cruel and psychotic survivor named Phillip, the "Governor" of Woodbury. The Governor betrayed and captured them, violently raping and torturing Michonne to acquire the location of the prison. The Governor later attempted to toy with her skills and sent her into their stadium fights as a participant for the crowds, but she caused more trouble than satisfaction when Michonne proceeded to kill all the participants with her katana in a gladiator style tournament. When the others eventually escaped, Michonne remained behind and tortured the Governor by scooping his eye out, chopping his arm off and cutting his penis off before making her way back to the prison with the rest of the group.
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