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pokerface
507 Posts
How come the walkers refuses the feed on each other??? A lot of organism on this planet do so when they are in a pinch,i mean in a seriously bad situation.even man would do that(just think about the plane crash survivors). Im a biologist so these things really are bugging me :D | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
On March 20 2012 02:34 pokerface wrote: I have only 1 question that might sound stupid but if u think about it for a second maybe its not. How come the walkers refuses the feed on each other??? A lot of organism on this planet do so when they are in a pinch,i mean in a seriously bad situation.even man would do that(just think about the plane crash survivors). Im a biologist so these things really are bugging me :D Not 100% sure, but like with most science fiction novels, there's some 'rules' that are put into place just for consistency, and zombies for whatever reason, don't eat each other. My guess is that they only eat 'living' things, and they aren't technically 'living' anymore? They even stated in the aftershow that they had to manually edit out using CGI all of the breath's from the walkers in the finale because they recorded in 28 degree weather and all of the walkers had their breath showing during the recording. At least that would be the simplest answer. And it seems that while eating does give them more 'strength' again at least in some instances, they don't actually feed to 'survive'. Zombies, I'd assume in this world, would continue to just wander, even if they hadn't feasted in days, so when exactly is a 'bad situation' to a zombie, if he will never die even if he doesn't feast. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On March 20 2012 02:34 pokerface wrote: I have only 1 question that might sound stupid but if u think about it for a second maybe its not. How come the walkers refuses the feed on each other??? A lot of organism on this planet do so when they are in a pinch,i mean in a seriously bad situation.even man would do that(just think about the plane crash survivors). Im a biologist so these things really are bugging me :D well, they kinda have shown trace evidence that they do. for instance, now that we know everyone's infected, that hanging walker that they encountered in the woods was most likely a walker when it had its legs devoured. | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
On March 20 2012 02:39 Mogwai wrote: well, they kinda have shown trace evidence that they do. for instance, now that we know everyone's infected, that hanging walker that they encountered in the woods was most likely a walker when it had its legs devoured. I had assumed his legs were eaten before he turned but after he died? Hrm, good point, forgot about that guy. | ||
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Yergidy
United States2107 Posts
On March 20 2012 02:39 Mogwai wrote: well, they kinda have shown trace evidence that they do. for instance, now that we know everyone's infected, that hanging walker that they encountered in the woods was most likely a walker when it had its legs devoured. No the dude hung himself and failed, then was stuck there while walkers ate his legs, they would have ate more but he was too high. | ||
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peekn
United States1152 Posts
On March 20 2012 02:06 Flik wrote: If you watch how that zombies head got cut off and then look how she is holding the sword you'd notice that the sharp edge of the blade was the wrong way. Blooper. The chick looks pretty sweet though, Im glad we see somebody using a sword, obvious weapon of choice in Walking Dead world. I have no idea why you would have two zombies on leashes. Wtf would they do for you? Nobody spoil it though. There are enough untagged spoilers in here already, Im not going to be reading this again until next season. I also noticed that during the fleeing part of the episode when Dayle was watching the barn burn on his bike. The motorcycle had a knobby tire on it, probably the stunt tire, then the next scene it had a regular street tire. Just a little thing that I noticed, if we're on the topic of bloopers.  And for those saying that this new character is "unbelievable" I don't see where you are getting your "control" character to base them off of. Since it's the apocalypse and they're not using magic, that we know of, I don't see how what they are doing seems unreasonable or unbelievable. Just need to wait and see what they're all about before we go out with pitchforks. | ||
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kuresuti
1393 Posts
On March 20 2012 02:06 Flik wrote: If you watch how that zombies head got cut off and then look how she is holding the sword you'd notice that the sharp edge of the blade was the wrong way. Blooper. The chick looks pretty sweet though, Im glad we see somebody using a sword, obvious weapon of choice in Walking Dead world. I have no idea why you would have two zombies on leashes. Wtf would they do for you? Nobody spoil it though. There are enough untagged spoilers in here already, Im not going to be reading this again until next season. I was thinking the captured zombies are some sort of bloodhounds or whatever. Maybe the zombies react to stuff a normal human being wouldn't, she could use something like that. Or she's just playing pokemon. | ||
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Radioman
Canada904 Posts
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pokerface
507 Posts
On March 20 2012 02:39 Kazeyonoma wrote: Not 100% sure, but like with most science fiction novels, there's some 'rules' that are put into place just for consistency, and zombies for whatever reason, don't eat each other. My guess is that they only eat 'living' things, and they aren't technically 'living' anymore? They even stated in the aftershow that they had to manually edit out using CGI all of the breath's from the walkers in the finale because they recorded in 28 degree weather and all of the walkers had their breath showing during the recording. At least that would be the simplest answer. And it seems that while eating does give them more 'strength' again at least in some instances, they don't actually feed to 'survive'. Zombies, I'd assume in this world, would continue to just wander, even if they hadn't feasted in days, so when exactly is a 'bad situation' to a zombie, if he will never die even if he doesn't feast. I suppose since its a sience fiction im forced to "accept the unacceptable " lol. But still.IF the zombies are not alive anymore and they dont need to feed to move on,what in the nine hell is letting them doing so.We can assume they are immortal?They wouldnt starve to death ever? Its simply bullshet.Nothing on this planet moves without consuming at least a fraction of nutritions once in a while. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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blug
Australia623 Posts
Also, T-Dog has almost been completely kicked off the show, I was quite surprised that he wasn't killed off. I was kind of sad that Dale got killed, I do know he's a tad to "goody goody" but honestly, I could see an old man being like that, kind of reminds me of my dad. + Show Spoiler + Also, in the comic book, Dale survives pretty close to the end, I'm pretty sure he ends up getting bit by a zombie because he decides to purposely let a zombie bite him. He trolls a bunch of cannibals who try to eat him after he gets bitten and says he is "tainted meat". Dale was alot different in the comic than he was in the actual show though. Dale was more bad ass, he told Rick to go fuck himself a couple of times =P. Also, I think they chose the wrong character for Carol, she looks way more different in the book, if anything more attractive. Also Sophia doesn't get killed if I remember, she survives right to the end. Short Story Short, the show is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy more different than the comic =P, although it basically has folloed the general plot, just little subtlties I guess. | ||
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Radioman
Canada904 Posts
On March 20 2012 02:59 Sentenal wrote: I really liked this episode... Up until the end with Lori. A few episodes ago, she was trying to get Rick to murder Shane, because he was a threat. Now he murdered Shane, and shes pissed at him because of it? What the fuck. She was upset that Carl killed Zombie Shane. Go back and watch her reaction as soon as Rick said it. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On March 20 2012 03:00 Radioman wrote: She was upset that Carl killed Zombie Shane. Go back and watch her reaction as soon as Rick said it. Any why would she blame Rick for that? It doesn't make sense. Carl saved Rick's life. | ||
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peekn
United States1152 Posts
On March 20 2012 02:56 pokerface wrote: I suppose since its a sience fiction im forced to "accept the unacceptable " lol. But still.IF the zombies are not alive anymore and they dont need to feed to move on,what in the nine hell is letting them doing so.We can assume they are immortal?They wouldnt starve to death ever? Its simply bullshet.Nothing on this planet moves without consuming at least a fraction of nutritions once in a while. Well since it's a science fiction movie and stuff doesn't really come back to life after it is killed, it's hard to apply any of the known biological processes to it, if you break one law then it's hard to expect the rest of them to apply. And since it's a zombie theme you're usually not given a lot of back story about the virus and how and why it behaves the way that it does. | ||
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blug
Australia623 Posts
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blug
Australia623 Posts
On March 20 2012 03:00 Radioman wrote: She was upset that Carl killed Zombie Shane. Go back and watch her reaction as soon as Rick said it. Wait really? I thought that the episode ended killing shane? When did you see Lori get pissed off? | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On March 20 2012 03:04 blug wrote: Wait really? I thought that the episode ended killing shane? When did you see Lori get pissed off? Did you not watch the last episode? After they were driven off the farm, when Lori was trying to comfort Rick, he told her about Shane. Then she got pissed. | ||
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blug
Australia623 Posts
On March 20 2012 03:07 Sentenal wrote: Did you not watch the last episode? After they were driven off the farm, when Lori was trying to comfort Rick, he told her about Shane. Then she got pissed. Fun fact, I thought episode 12 was the last episode, I am so happy, didnt realize there was another episode this season xD | ||
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Radioman
Canada904 Posts
EDIT: Lol at blug. Must feel like winning the lotto. | ||
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
On March 20 2012 01:55 wo1fwood wrote: hmmm... after this episode I'm actually debating if I should continue to watch. Some of it seemed rather, well forced. Scratch that, a lot of it seemed forced. Like why the walkers were migrating in the first place (GET TO THE CHOPPAHH!)? How about the zombies casually limping towards Hershel in such a convenient manner that he gets to stay alive (forgot how to run huh)? Next the death of I'm reeaally trying to just sit and enjoy this show without over-analyzing, but jesus they're making it hard for me. Sorry that was a little harsher than I normally try to be  Also, lol First season was a joke. Zombies were running and using rocks. That doesn't happen, ever. And I'm glad that hasn't made a reappearance in the second season. And "GET TO THE CHOPPAHH!" wtf ? It's perfectly possible to stand there and take a stand against an infinite number of zombies provided you don't have to reload and you always have a retreat ( and you're never tired ). Andrea showed that enough. Patricia's death was forced. I couldn't tell if they were paying attention because he came out of nowhere. + Show Spoiler [comic] + it reminded me of one of the recent comics and the woman holding Carl's hand before Carl ... Laurie is upset that Rick let Carl use a gun I think. She only reacted when he said that. Otherwise she was okay. Her acting was kinda bad though for the scene, which probably makes it more confusing. Steven Yeun ( Glenn ) did an AMA on Reddit, I can't find the link though, but he said you're supposed to hate her character. Finally at the guy mad about the tires, even for consistency, you only notice these things if you nitpick about the episode most of the time. I'd rather they be not consistent and use the right tires than have Daryl slip and injure himself? Here's a bunch of Matrix mistakes that seem to be much worse than replacing tires and from a major producer. @blug, you need an energy source to survive. As we have not encountered non-organic and non-carbon based lifeforms, we are in no position to say they need energy to survive. It's like asking if Superman needed to eat, which is very debatable. Ideally, walkers should be crawlers, since walking requires memory, but zombies should have no memories of anything. But crawling zombies would be too easy. Running should be impossible, and is, rightly so. It's not about them catching up because they're running, but because you're out of energy ( yay Andrea! ). | ||
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