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Discussing the show and past episodes is fine. Do not put things that have happened in the TV series in spoilers. However, don't spoil things from the books that may happen in future episodes. Put book spoilers in spoiler tags with a CLEAR WARNING that it is from the book.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5714 Posts
March 05 2012 04:46 GMT
#3001
FML.

Dale died, he was my favorite because he acted like I probably would've. I hate Carl now because hes acting really stupid and got someone in the group killed now.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
-JoKeR-
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada387 Posts
March 05 2012 04:51 GMT
#3002
On March 05 2012 13:33 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 13:13 garbodor wrote:
On March 05 2012 13:12 buickskylark wrote:
he was talking about otis



If Carl wasn't being a retard and trying to walk up to a fucking deer he wouldn't have been shot
:3


Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 13:33 -JoKeR- wrote:
On March 05 2012 12:41 p4NDemik wrote:
How is Carl responsible for that lol


He showed interest in the dear where Shane would have killed it and everyone is fine. He got shot and lead to Otis dying, why you walk up to a dear is beyond me, usually you try to avoid wild animals.



Carl getting shot wasn't the reason Otis died. The final cause of his death was Shane shooting him and leaving him for dead.

And as I mentioned above, Shane and Rick were 100% okay with him doing it when they could have easily stopped him so they're just as much to blame from that perspective (which is a bad perspective to begin with as it's too far separated from the actual cause of his death).


Rick's decision to let his son walk up to a dear was heavily influenced because his son showed interest. If carl sits back Shane kills the dear and they take a good dinner back home and Otis lives.

Carl getting shot lead to Otis dying by walkers.



p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
March 05 2012 04:51 GMT
#3003
You guys have it all wrong. Otis' incredible obesity is what killed him. Clearly his cholesterol numbers bear the brunt of the responsibility.
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buickskylark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada664 Posts
March 05 2012 04:54 GMT
#3004
you guys are all wrong. it was the writers' fault.
RastaMonsta
Profile Joined October 2011
304 Posts
March 05 2012 04:58 GMT
#3005
I was VERY dissapointed with this episode. Im trying so hard to love this series but its really slacking lately. i will deff tune in till the show ends tho. I just hope things pick up and there is a bit more action or more interesting drama. This episode was a bore until the end which wasnt too impressive.
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
March 05 2012 05:00 GMT
#3006
no, i think it was the gun company's fault

if the gun manufacturer had not made that gun that shane had, shane would not have been able to shoot otis

furthermore, otis family should sue the manufacturer that made the gun that shane used to shoot otis with
similar to the movie runaway jury starring john cusack
byah!
RastaMonsta
Profile Joined October 2011
304 Posts
March 05 2012 05:01 GMT
#3007
Im pretty sure it was Shanes fathers fault, if it werent for him, Shanes mother wouldnt have gotten pregnant and given birth to him. Therefore, preventing Shane ever meeting or killing Otis.
Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
March 05 2012 05:10 GMT
#3008
I dont see how it's fair to blame Carl for any of the deaths. The kid is a bit of a dumbass, though. I don't really like him.

I actually liked Dale. =[
He was a bit annoying at times, he said some stupid things, but overall I liked his character. I guess his death is supposed to symbolize something. He was the moral compass. I'm sure lots of 'bad shit' will start happening now.
WeeEEeeEEEeeEEEeeeEEee!!
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 05:20:24
March 05 2012 05:18 GMT
#3009
On March 05 2012 13:51 -JoKeR- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 13:33 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 05 2012 13:13 garbodor wrote:
On March 05 2012 13:12 buickskylark wrote:
he was talking about otis



If Carl wasn't being a retard and trying to walk up to a fucking deer he wouldn't have been shot
:3


On March 05 2012 13:33 -JoKeR- wrote:
On March 05 2012 12:41 p4NDemik wrote:
How is Carl responsible for that lol


He showed interest in the dear where Shane would have killed it and everyone is fine. He got shot and lead to Otis dying, why you walk up to a dear is beyond me, usually you try to avoid wild animals.



Carl getting shot wasn't the reason Otis died. The final cause of his death was Shane shooting him and leaving him for dead.

And as I mentioned above, Shane and Rick were 100% okay with him doing it when they could have easily stopped him so they're just as much to blame from that perspective (which is a bad perspective to begin with as it's too far separated from the actual cause of his death).


Rick's decision to let his son walk up to a dear was heavily influenced because his son showed interest. If carl sits back Shane kills the dear and they take a good dinner back home and Otis lives.

Carl getting shot lead to Otis dying by walkers.





Rick and Lori having sex ultimately lead to Carl's birth which lead to Carl getting shot. So, Rick and Lori lead to Otis dying by walkers.

See how we're not addressing the actual cause in either of these situations though? Shane and Otis are running from zombies attempting to devour them, Shane shot Otis rendering him incapable of further flight from the pursuers. That is the final cause of the Otis death. Shane is the cause, not Carl. Carl is the cause the same way Rick's grandfather is the cause.
Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 05:20:45
March 05 2012 05:20 GMT
#3010
I blame the deer, personally. If it wasn't so serene looking, it woudl not have mesmorized Carl, and by extention Shane and Rick.

Then not only would Otis live, but he'd have a delicious deer to keep him nice and fat.
WeeEEeeEEEeeEEEeeeEEee!!
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
March 05 2012 05:21 GMT
#3011
It sort of sucks Dale in the show was always this usurper plotting and going behind everyone's back talking to each other, even if he was doing it for the right reasons. In the comic he was always a pillar of strength (mentally and physically) among the group, incredibly resilient even though he was the oldest. It also sucks the actor that played him was one the best that they had at their disposal. Hopefully though he'll be replaced by an equally awesome actor/actress depending on who they add to Ricks group next season (if they add anyone - nothing has been confirmed afaik).
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Sprungjeezy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1313 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 05:24:57
March 05 2012 05:24 GMT
#3012
Hmm, I don't mind that Dale is dead, he was making Rick into too much of a pussy. Also Carl is getting annoying as hell, but if not for him, Glen wouldn't be getting any.

edit: using pronouns without telling who I am talking about.
philosophize
Profile Joined November 2011
United States9 Posts
March 05 2012 05:25 GMT
#3013
On March 05 2012 13:12 simmeh wrote:
t-dog gets a line next week according to the preview!

"oh hell no!"

nice


hahahaha on point

can't believe some people are saying this episode was "disappointing". tbh i EXPECTED it to be boring and it ended up seeming like the best ep. yet. so well played to have that incredible scene in the living room and the moral dilemma and the points dale made and then to kill him off...so well done.

It's funny cause all i saw earlier in this thread is people bitching about dale but now...well... i think it's harder to hate him as a character after that episode.
That is never too often repeated, which is never sufficiently learned.
imPERSONater
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1324 Posts
March 05 2012 05:28 GMT
#3014
Dale in the living room scene was amazing. I commented out loud how well he had done after it was over. Really moving/life-like portrayal. If that had been the only discussion on the subject (besides the Dale 1 on 1 sessions) that would have been awesome!
Fan of: IdrA, Sen, Stephano, Snute, Axlav, Hero
dazed
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada191 Posts
March 05 2012 05:31 GMT
#3015
WHY DO THESE PPL ALWAYS WANDER AROUND ALONE??? I'm not going anywhere alone if i was in that world. I dont care if somebody's gotta watch me while I take a shit. Someone's gotta have your back in any situation

seriously Carl running around the forrest alone? thats some good parenting.

and Dale taking a stroll in the middle of the night?
Sprungjeezy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1313 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 05:36:15
March 05 2012 05:34 GMT
#3016
On March 05 2012 14:28 imPERSONater wrote:
Dale in the living room scene was amazing. I commented out loud how well he had done after it was over. Really moving/life-like portrayal. If that had been the only discussion on the subject (besides the Dale 1 on 1 sessions) that would have been awesome!


Too bad Dale kept saying (paraphrasing) 'you are making a rash decision' 'you've thought about it 5 minutes' 'one man's life is worth more than a short discussion' after everyone clearly knew about it for the entire day (and the day(s) before they planned to drive him out a way and let him fend for himself). But yea, not a bad episode when compared to others I suppose.


On March 05 2012 14:31 dazed wrote:
WHY DO THESE PPL ALWAYS WANDER AROUND ALONE??? I'm not going anywhere alone if i was in that world. I dont care if somebody's gotta watch me while I take a shit. Someone's gotta have your back in any situation

seriously Carl running around the forrest alone? thats some good parenting.

and Dale taking a stroll in the middle of the night?


Dale was pissed that they were going through with the execution and went for a walk to show how much he disagreed with the decision. And yes, awesome parenting, kid steals a gun, then chills with a zombie in the woods by himself. Then when he gets back covered in mud no one even notices.
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
March 05 2012 05:34 GMT
#3017
I can't believe
1. Dale died
2. Lori and Andrea both get to outlive him

So sad after this episode =(
Proof.
Profile Joined August 2011
535 Posts
March 05 2012 05:41 GMT
#3018
On March 05 2012 14:34 GwSC wrote:
I can't believe
1. Dale died
2. Lori and Andrea both get to outlive him

So sad after this episode =(

I can't believe
1. A zombie grabbed Carl's feet then basically let him go.
2. The same zombie reappears with a titanium-reinforced ultra pincer grip just for Dale.
He who has a why to live can bear almost any how
Arkan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada78 Posts
March 05 2012 05:45 GMT
#3019
I just dont know why everyone hates Shane >.> I mean even from the sneak preview we can see that yet again he was right, they should of shot the kid, now he has escaped and will most likely tell his other group.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
March 05 2012 05:45 GMT
#3020
Yea, not killing Rendall will probably be like a parallel to not killing the zombie (Carl).

That said, we still to know how Rendall will make his run. I'm expecting the farm to be lost soon ; its not longer the safe haven it was supposed to be.
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