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Canucklehead
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Forikorder
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On February 03 2015 03:47 Canucklehead wrote: I still don't understand the reason for dissolving the guild. Natsu could have gone off for a year to train with the guild still in place. Gildarts does it all the time. They always talked about the guild being a family and how ft tried to represent that the best all the time when they lectured other evil guilds. Then makarov dissolves the guild just like that? There better be a good reason coming up for it. to try to prevent shit like when Tartaros tried to kill them just for being in the guild? Makarov is going to be up against Zeref using Lumen Histoire, hes also going to try doing something against Acnologia if the guild stays then tehy all become targets through association | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On February 03 2015 04:27 Forikorder wrote: to try to prevent shit like when Tartaros tried to kill them just for being in the guild? Makarov is going to be up against Zeref using Lumen Histoire, hes also going to try doing something against Acnologia if the guild stays then tehy all become targets through association That's not a good enough reason. You stay and fight as a guild/family, not try to solo the final boss. Also, none of the fairy tail members would have a problem being targeted due to association and would gladly die fighting for the guild and to protect it. | ||
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Latham
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Everybody needed some time alone, and solo adventures make for good character growth. Also in before: Natsu so powerful, but actually weakest FT fighter now overall, after 1 year timeskip, thus resetting everything. Gray, Erza, Gajeel, Laxus, even fking Wendy all stronger than Natsu. Also in before in the next chapter: Gray casually walks in and freezes all the melting statues. Gray and Natsu begin to bicker. Erza appear and suffocates them both between her tits and biceps. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On February 03 2015 04:30 Canucklehead wrote: That's not a good enough reason. You stay and fight as a guild/family, not try to solo the final boss. Also, none of the fairy tail members would have a problem being targeted due to association and would gladly die fighting for the guild and to protect it. and because there family he wants them to stay out of harms way | ||
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Slaughter
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On February 03 2015 04:39 Slaughter wrote: Eh, it would be fine if the entire series Mashima hadn't had the characters constantly telling everyone how the guild is like everything to them since the start of the manga. Now its just....well No one even really seemed to care that much. Its just an excuse for a time skip and/or solo training missions/adventures. Exactly. It doesn't fit the narrative. How many times did they fight evil guilds who didn't consider their guild members like family ala sabertooth and then natsu would lecture them mid battle about how the guild is family and means everything to him. Natsu and everyone in ft would always get super mad when any guild would make light of what it meant to be a guild. Then all of sudden the guild is dissolved and everyone is fine with it and goes their separate ways? It's a weak plot device to go on solo training missions to power up, but one I don't think was necessary as you could work in powerups with the guild still there, just like every other time they powered up. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On February 03 2015 04:43 Canucklehead wrote: Exactly. It doesn't fit the narrative. How many times did they fight evil guilds who didn't consider their guild members like family ala sabertooth and then natsu would lecture them mid battle about how the guild is family and means everything to him. Natsu and everyone in ft would always get super mad when any guild would make light of what it meant to be a guild. Then all of sudden the guild is dissolved and everyone is fine with it and goes their separate ways? It's a weak plot device to go on solo training missions to power up, but one I don't think was necessary as you could work in powerups with the guild still there, just like every other time they powered up. familys want there family members to not die, being a guild put them at risk of dieing whats so complicated about it? | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On February 03 2015 04:51 Forikorder wrote: familys want there family members to not die, being a guild put them at risk of dieing whats so complicated about it? Then don't join a guild in the first place? They've been in danger since day 1. They know the risks of joining a guild and have been fine with it all this time. You can try to use the family excuse all you want, but I'm not buying it for a second. This is why Oda is god. When one piece did the time skip, luffy didn't go, yo guys, I'm dissolving the straw hats to solo level up..peace! No, he left them a secret message that they will all train and meet up again in 2 years time, cause luffy values the meaning of the straw hat pirates more than makarov did fairy tail. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
I'm sure we'll get more on the justification of why the guild was dissolved in a bit. though it's not like it's a terribly complicated thing to understand either. | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On February 03 2015 05:06 Incognoto wrote: Markarov wanted the fairies to fly alone. I'm sure we'll get more on the justification of why the guild was dissolved in a bit. though it's not like it's a terribly complicated thing to understand either. It's not about it being terribly complicated to understand because wanting to protect the guild members is fine. It's just that dissolving the guild does not fit the entire narrative of this manga's history of the guild meaning everything to them and isn't something to be taken lightly. To dissolve the guild just like that because he fears danger ignores the history of this manga. I will wait for the true reason to come out, and I have to believe mashima will come up with a better reason then to just protect them. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On February 03 2015 05:00 Canucklehead wrote: Then don't join a guild in the first place? They've been in danger since day 1. They know the risks of joining a guild and have been fine with it all this time. You can try to use the family excuse all you want, but I'm not buying it for a second. This is why Oda is god. When one piece did the time skip, luffy didn't go, yo guys, I'm dissolving the straw hats to solo level up..peace! No, he left them a secret message that they will all train and meet up again in 2 years time, cause luffy values the meaning of the straw hat pirates more than makarov did fairy tail. last i checked, having your guild attacked by dragons and demons is not a threat generally applied to guilds, in fact danger isnt even assumed when you join a guild you can join it and then jsut never take a job that involves danger the straw hats joined Luffy fully knowing that he was planning on going to the grand line to find one piece, they understood the danger involved with that, noone in FT joined knowing that Makarov was planning to go against Zeref, Acnologia and a guild full of demons | ||
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sharkie
Austria18573 Posts
On February 03 2015 05:06 Incognoto wrote: Markarov wanted the fairies to fly alone. I'm sure we'll get more on the justification of why the guild was dissolved in a bit. though it's not like it's a terribly complicated thing to understand either. the problem is that markharov always said that the guild is a home for everyone. By disbanding the guild he DESTROYS the home for the people who need it. Gray, Natsu, Erza, ... what would they have done if there had been no fairy tail? And I am sure there are other children now in FT, did he just forsake them now? | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On February 03 2015 05:12 Forikorder wrote: noone in FT joined knowing that Makarov was planning to go against Zeref, Acnologia and a guild full of demons People were free to leave the guild if they thought the danger was too much. One reason I will buy is he didn't want the secret of lumen historie coming out because makarov protecting that secret has been consistent throughout the manga even going so far as erasing people's memory of it. Therefore, if he thought the guild being together increased the chances of more members finding out that secret, then I'll accept that theory over wanting to dissolve the guild due to wanting to protect them because the only thing makarov has valued as much or more than the guild itself, is keeping the secret of lumen histoire. I don't think that's going to be the reason either, but it is more believable. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On February 03 2015 05:16 sharkie wrote: the problem is that markharov always said that the guild is a home for everyone. By disbanding the guild he DESTROYS the home for the people who need it. Gray, Natsu, Erza, ... what would they have done if there had been no fairy tail? And I am sure there are other children now in FT, did he just forsake them now? which kids? and even if there was the other guildmates could take care of them, Makarov disbanded to prevent them from being killed for being in fairy tail, he did it to protect them because he cares about them if theres kids in FT then its even more important to disband because kids make great hostages | ||
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Slaughter
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On February 03 2015 06:32 Slaughter wrote: Nothing says being safe then everyone going off by themselves. where they wont get targeted by evil dudes.... | ||
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sharkie
Austria18573 Posts
On February 03 2015 06:49 Forikorder wrote: where they wont get targeted by evil dudes.... Why not? You think the evil dudes if there is officially a guild called fairy tail or not? The crest does not disappear so they remain targets... Disbandment of the guild is a plothole, totally out of character | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On February 03 2015 07:19 sharkie wrote: Why not? You think the evil dudes if there is officially a guild called fairy tail or not? The crest does not disappear so they remain targets... Disbandment of the guild is a plothole, totally out of character the evil dudes only care about Makarov and Lumen histoire, they care about fairy tail being the strongest guild if there all scattered then its a waste of time to go around hunting them down especially when the guild was disbanded the only ones who would still get targeted are the powerhouses like Gray/Erza/Laxus/Mira/Gildartz but tahts more because there BAMF then that there part of FT | ||
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