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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-12 19:05:55
June 12 2019 10:02 GMT
#1

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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 12 2019 10:03 GMT
#2
Richard going all out for the meme suit. First person in the scene to look at classic Bruno outfits and go, "yeah, I like that".
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-12 10:33:56
June 12 2019 10:30 GMT
#3
Anvorgesa plays better than expected!

//edit
... and the moment I praise them, they dive T4...
There can only be one Geisterkarle
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-12 10:48:47
June 12 2019 10:46 GMT
#4
On June 12 2019 19:30 Geisterkarle wrote:
Anvorgesa plays better than expected!

//edit
... and the moment I praise them, they dive T4...


They tired so hard to throw that game. Wisper bailed them out so hard.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 12 2019 12:18 GMT
#5
At least Ehome woke up, haha.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
June 12 2019 12:44 GMT
#6
Edited OP a bit, thanks for picking up our slack again Taf ^^
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
June 12 2019 13:04 GMT
#7
is it just me, or is the camera they're using for the studio shots really bad? grainy af
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
June 12 2019 15:12 GMT
#8
Quite the series between Winstrike and Alliance. The dropped Aghs from Roshan for Lils Earthshaker is game winning, jumping in and out of the fights and chain stunning Mickes Morph.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 12 2019 16:46 GMT
#9
Definitely an Alliance game.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 12 2019 16:46 GMT
#10
On June 12 2019 21:44 ShiaoPi wrote:
Edited OP a bit, thanks for picking up our slack again Taf ^^


Glad to help.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 12 2019 16:56 GMT
#11
Bear wins with a backdoor. Kyle regresses before puberty. Was a good ending.
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3616 Posts
June 12 2019 18:33 GMT
#12
EHOME looks really bad.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 12 2019 19:08 GMT
#13
Was super busy with work my bad forgot this is today! The groups seem crazy as well, NiP Mineski CoL and a Chinese stack added offt. Can't wait for those games.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 12 2019 19:14 GMT
#14
On June 13 2019 04:08 Pandemona wrote:
Was super busy with work my bad forgot this is today! The groups seem crazy as well, NiP Mineski CoL and a Chinese stack added offt. Can't wait for those games.


It's also a Visa tournament, so tomorrow could be some really shaky play from Group B.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 12 2019 21:33 GMT
#15
All 3 series went 2-1 today. Interesting. Let's see if that keeps playing out.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 13 2019 11:07 GMT
#16
WK is the sudden "hey, this carry works" start to the LAN Meta.
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4567 Posts
June 13 2019 11:35 GMT
#17
This twitch clapping system is bloody annoying. Good thing it can be disabled even though finding the disable button is hard
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
June 13 2019 12:07 GMT
#18
Winstrike losing to SA is quite something
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 13 2019 12:08 GMT
#19
On June 13 2019 21:07 ShiaoPi wrote:
Winstrike losing to SA is quite something


WK too strong, haha.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 13 2019 12:10 GMT
#20
I finally realized where I've heard that music sting before. It was used in Man At Arms: Reforged.
MetalMercury
Profile Joined January 2015
United States1161 Posts
June 13 2019 12:25 GMT
#21
On June 13 2019 21:07 ShiaoPi wrote:
Winstrike losing to SA is quite something


SA teams have not been jokes at minors since the first one; they've improved quite a bit as far as tier 2 teams are concerned.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 13 2019 13:33 GMT
#22
The Batrider ruined NiP this game, and I still hate seeing Ace on Troll. The team doesn't play well around the Troll at all.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-13 14:38:40
June 13 2019 14:05 GMT
#23
33 on an Enchantress. What is this TL-like move? I guess it's a good Nightstalker counter?

Edit: Okay, hard NS counter play by NiP and they ruined both side lanes hard.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 13 2019 16:02 GMT
#24
Late game Bristle is brutal, though I think Sirius probably should have won game 3. But, new team and the little details matter in the top 22 situation you're looking at on DPC LAN.
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
June 13 2019 16:08 GMT
#25
Given the performance by Ace and in case NiP is not falling below the threshhold, I could see him being replaced by Matu. I mean Fata and Matu worked well until TI6 and I would love to see Matu back on hard carry role.

Bristle Aghs on 33 was gruesome, bonus damage of 670(?) once nasal goo became an Aoe-spell, but Sirius should have taken this game until that questionable play at mid when SK and WK charged forwards just after OD tped out.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
June 13 2019 16:54 GMT
#26
I'll just comment that the new integrated twitch overlay is pretty sweet, just tuned in
MetalMercury
Profile Joined January 2015
United States1161 Posts
June 13 2019 16:55 GMT
#27
On June 14 2019 01:08 Rufus Dupres wrote:
Given the performance by Ace and in case NiP is not falling below the threshhold, I could see him being replaced by Matu. I mean Fata and Matu worked well until TI6 and I would love to see Matu back on hard carry role.

Bristle Aghs on 33 was gruesome, bonus damage of 670(?) once nasal goo became an Aoe-spell, but Sirius should have taken this game until that questionable play at mid when SK and WK charged forwards just after OD tped out.


I'd be a bit surprised, because it doesn't seem like PPD to kick someone before an event like TI.

FATA actually did fine that series; his laning is terrible but his team play is fine.
MetalMercury
Profile Joined January 2015
United States1161 Posts
June 13 2019 17:36 GMT
#28
I know that Synderen and the rest are not convinced, but if you play Chen correctly in this patch (which Adam didn't do) then he's probably the best hero in the game at the moment; no other hero can regularly get tier 2's ten minutes in like he can.

Mineski had a bad draft for game one and was almost gonna win but they had one critical bad fight which doomed them to lose. That game was way closer than the ending statistics made it seem.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 13 2019 18:28 GMT
#29
On June 14 2019 01:08 Rufus Dupres wrote:
Given the performance by Ace and in case NiP is not falling below the threshhold, I could see him being replaced by Matu. I mean Fata and Matu worked well until TI6 and I would love to see Matu back on hard carry role.

Bristle Aghs on 33 was gruesome, bonus damage of 670(?) once nasal goo became an Aoe-spell, but Sirius should have taken this game until that questionable play at mid when SK and WK charged forwards just after OD tped out.


Considering Fata & Ace wanted to play together and came as a pair, it's been thought NiP would have to replace both at once. Normal problem is Ace isn't adaptable enough. He makes about 2 mistakes per series that are the difference between Finals and 6-10th at a major LAN.

To win TI, the team would need to get really hot. To place well, they just need to keep going. There really isn't anyone good enough available to change up the situation NiP is in and that's been true all season. After they got the Top 4 at the first Major, they've also had no incentive to really change the roster. They just had the problem of being in EU this season.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 13 2019 19:26 GMT
#30
What is this game. And I think it's broken Kyle.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
June 14 2019 11:12 GMT
#31
Saksa really saving NiP's bacon there
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
June 14 2019 11:39 GMT
#32
On June 14 2019 01:55 MetalMercury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2019 01:08 Rufus Dupres wrote:
Given the performance by Ace and in case NiP is not falling below the threshhold, I could see him being replaced by Matu. I mean Fata and Matu worked well until TI6 and I would love to see Matu back on hard carry role.

Bristle Aghs on 33 was gruesome, bonus damage of 670(?) once nasal goo became an Aoe-spell, but Sirius should have taken this game until that questionable play at mid when SK and WK charged forwards just after OD tped out.


I'd be a bit surprised, because it doesn't seem like PPD to kick someone before an event like TI.

FATA actually did fine that series; his laning is terrible but his team play is fine.


you are right, ppd is the type of guy to kicked someone after ti (even if they win it) 😂
surprised there hasn’t been a thread on liquiddota regarding his drama with nip
MetalMercury
Profile Joined January 2015
United States1161 Posts
June 14 2019 12:20 GMT
#33
On June 14 2019 20:39 nVme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2019 01:55 MetalMercury wrote:
On June 14 2019 01:08 Rufus Dupres wrote:
Given the performance by Ace and in case NiP is not falling below the threshhold, I could see him being replaced by Matu. I mean Fata and Matu worked well until TI6 and I would love to see Matu back on hard carry role.

Bristle Aghs on 33 was gruesome, bonus damage of 670(?) once nasal goo became an Aoe-spell, but Sirius should have taken this game until that questionable play at mid when SK and WK charged forwards just after OD tped out.


I'd be a bit surprised, because it doesn't seem like PPD to kick someone before an event like TI.

FATA actually did fine that series; his laning is terrible but his team play is fine.


you are right, ppd is the type of guy to kicked someone after ti (even if they win it) 😂
surprised there hasn’t been a thread on liquiddota regarding his drama with nip


That's kinda what I mean; he didn't kick Aui before TI. You don't do that kick like 5 days after TI unless you wanted to do it before TI, but he refrained.
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
June 14 2019 13:53 GMT
#34
On June 14 2019 21:20 MetalMercury wrote:

That's kinda what I mean; he didn't kick Aui before TI. You don't do that kick like 5 days after TI unless you wanted to do it before TI, but he refrained.


Well, aui was one of his greatest asset during the drafting stages as teams had to ban at least two of his heroes in the first phase. I consider(on basis of the drama between him and clairvoyance and if only parts of same are true) him as a person who would gladly sacrifice somebody if same will increase his chance of winning. If there has been anybody prior TI5 with the same impact on the games like aui, I am pretty sure he would have kicked aui even if it was only one hour before the first game. His leadership has always been described as autocratic where he is the only one in charge for decisions. It may not be as drastic as I wrote it, but hell yeah he will kick Ace if he considers Matu as the better carry for their playstyle(and subject that Fata and/or the others will not insist on playing with Ace during TI).

"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-14 17:57:45
June 14 2019 17:47 GMT
#35
Well, both of the Visa Gridlock teams went down. That turns into a rough trip for them.

SA team throwing a lead by diving beyond T3s with T2 up. Why does this always happen.

Edit: Anvorgesa pull it back and close out the game. Ehome really needs this win, and it would setup the fun Alliance vs Ehome over the last TI slot.
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
June 14 2019 18:48 GMT
#36
Catburger did it!
dragonswarrior
Profile Joined August 2015
389 Posts
June 14 2019 18:49 GMT
#37
PERU NUMBAH 1
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Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
June 14 2019 18:52 GMT
#38
catburger vs nip hype
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 14 2019 18:53 GMT
#39
Big upset by Anvorgesa, congrats. They played really well in Game 3. They stopped themselves from trying to throw, which was quite nice to see.

Top 4 should be at least interesting. It's Win 2 matches before you lose 2 and it's off to the Major.
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3265 Posts
June 14 2019 18:55 GMT
#40
rofl rip 3 TI winners and the TI winner coach. I need someone that translates Chinese reddit right now.
low gravity, yes-yes!
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
June 14 2019 19:02 GMT
#41
rip china my god I did not expect that after leaving the stream after game 1
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
June 14 2019 21:13 GMT
#42
I am now a catburger fan. Didn't get to see game 2 and 3 since at work but wisper was amazing in the loss game 1 on sand king. Super impressive.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
June 14 2019 22:45 GMT
#43
Wisper has looked legit ever since he was on Infamous for the first minor this season. I can see him being in contention for best offlaner in SA since Tavo's been dropping the ball.
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