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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
May 06 2019 12:19 GMT
#61
Classic VP.

Now win 2-1 or get rekt 0-2 (imma cry in 2nd scenario).
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 06 2019 12:22 GMT
#62
On May 06 2019 21:18 Tegenaria wrote:
GG ?? WTF

They have t2 alive


I think they were just too far behind at that point in terms of damage output. They couldn't kill ana in the last couple of teamfights and that is not going to get better with that injection of money with rax/towers/shrines falling soon.

Spectre was also far from being able to match OG.
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 06 2019 12:24 GMT
#63
It's so idiotic seeing Drow getting killed 3 times in a row in the early game, and still being 2k networth above second most farmed hero just because she can kill ancients and camps in few seconds. Not sure why her ult even works on ancients like on normal creeps and not like on heroes, dealing extra damage.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 06 2019 12:25 GMT
#64
On May 06 2019 21:22 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2019 21:18 Tegenaria wrote:
GG ?? WTF

They have t2 alive


I think they were just too far behind at that point in terms of damage output. They couldn't kill ana in the last couple of teamfights and that is not going to get better with that injection of money with rax/towers/shrines falling soon.

Spectre was also far from being able to match OG.


They could have drug it out, but they were basically going to have to get a massive mess up from OG to win. Playing a game you're 95% likely to lose for another 30 minutes, when you probably think you already got outdrafted, has a cost on your mental energy & morale.

Plus, VP ran back to the finals in the last major losing the first match in a Bo3 five or six times in a row. They can deal with this.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44163 Posts
May 06 2019 12:41 GMT
#65
On May 06 2019 21:24 Ramiz1989 wrote:
It's so idiotic seeing Drow getting killed 3 times in a row in the early game, and still being 2k networth above second most farmed hero just because she can kill ancients and camps in few seconds. Not sure why her ult even works on ancients like on normal creeps and not like on heroes, dealing extra damage.

It is still an ultimate. It has to be worthwhile. Tho the ignore armor is worthwhile but that alone without the farming capacity makes drow a whatever pick.
this is a quote
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-06 12:50:34
May 06 2019 12:44 GMT
#66
On May 06 2019 21:41 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2019 21:24 Ramiz1989 wrote:
It's so idiotic seeing Drow getting killed 3 times in a row in the early game, and still being 2k networth above second most farmed hero just because she can kill ancients and camps in few seconds. Not sure why her ult even works on ancients like on normal creeps and not like on heroes, dealing extra damage.

It is still an ultimate. It has to be worthwhile. Tho the ignore armor is worthwhile but that alone without the farming capacity makes drow a whatever pick.

It has a chance to deal bonus damage on heroes, pierces evasion and ignores armor. That ALONE is worthwhile. Tanky heroes against Drow don't exist, she melts them all. It instant kill creeps, which is amazing as well. Instant killing ancients is just fucking stupid. It doesn't make her "whatever" pick when she is one of the most popular and broken heroes in the game right now LOL.

EDIT: Here's an article for you posted just 2 days ago.
https://www.dotabuff.com/blog/2019-05-04-drow-rangers-dominance-continues
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44163 Posts
May 06 2019 12:46 GMT
#67
On May 06 2019 21:44 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2019 21:41 goody153 wrote:
On May 06 2019 21:24 Ramiz1989 wrote:
It's so idiotic seeing Drow getting killed 3 times in a row in the early game, and still being 2k networth above second most farmed hero just because she can kill ancients and camps in few seconds. Not sure why her ult even works on ancients like on normal creeps and not like on heroes, dealing extra damage.

It is still an ultimate. It has to be worthwhile. Tho the ignore armor is worthwhile but that alone without the farming capacity makes drow a whatever pick.

It has a chance to deal bonus damage on heroes, pierces evasion and ignores armor. That ALONE is worthwhile. Tanky heroes against Drow don't exist, she melts them all. It instant kill creeps, which is amazing as well. Instant killing ancients is just fucking stupid.

I'll be honest i liked the old drow better than this one.

I mean it was a niche pick but it wasn't that bad even before in terms of 1 position. And it had alot more emphasis on teamplay(the damage felt more significant and less OP than the attackspeed buff) than just solo carrying right now.
this is a quote
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 06 2019 12:48 GMT
#68
draft seems about even? Not sure who I favor here honestly..
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 06 2019 12:49 GMT
#69
On May 06 2019 21:46 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2019 21:44 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On May 06 2019 21:41 goody153 wrote:
On May 06 2019 21:24 Ramiz1989 wrote:
It's so idiotic seeing Drow getting killed 3 times in a row in the early game, and still being 2k networth above second most farmed hero just because she can kill ancients and camps in few seconds. Not sure why her ult even works on ancients like on normal creeps and not like on heroes, dealing extra damage.

It is still an ultimate. It has to be worthwhile. Tho the ignore armor is worthwhile but that alone without the farming capacity makes drow a whatever pick.

It has a chance to deal bonus damage on heroes, pierces evasion and ignores armor. That ALONE is worthwhile. Tanky heroes against Drow don't exist, she melts them all. It instant kill creeps, which is amazing as well. Instant killing ancients is just fucking stupid.

I'll be honest i liked the old drow better than this one.

I mean it was a niche pick but it wasn't that bad even before in terms of 1 position. And it had alot more emphasis on teamplay(the damage felt more significant and less OP than the attackspeed buff) than just solo carrying right now.

I don't mind the new Drow in terms of design, just ultimate shouldn't do 5 things in one. If you already gave her all that, don't make her 1-shot the ancients and ignore the armor completely, make it like 50%. She wouldn't have 55% win rate with high pick rate...

Also I edited last post if you haven't seen the link.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44163 Posts
May 06 2019 12:51 GMT
#70
On May 06 2019 21:48 ShiaoPi wrote:
draft seems about even? Not sure who I favor here honestly..

who gets drow is in favor
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44163 Posts
May 06 2019 12:52 GMT
#71
On May 06 2019 21:49 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2019 21:46 goody153 wrote:
On May 06 2019 21:44 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On May 06 2019 21:41 goody153 wrote:
On May 06 2019 21:24 Ramiz1989 wrote:
It's so idiotic seeing Drow getting killed 3 times in a row in the early game, and still being 2k networth above second most farmed hero just because she can kill ancients and camps in few seconds. Not sure why her ult even works on ancients like on normal creeps and not like on heroes, dealing extra damage.

It is still an ultimate. It has to be worthwhile. Tho the ignore armor is worthwhile but that alone without the farming capacity makes drow a whatever pick.

It has a chance to deal bonus damage on heroes, pierces evasion and ignores armor. That ALONE is worthwhile. Tanky heroes against Drow don't exist, she melts them all. It instant kill creeps, which is amazing as well. Instant killing ancients is just fucking stupid.

I'll be honest i liked the old drow better than this one.

I mean it was a niche pick but it wasn't that bad even before in terms of 1 position. And it had alot more emphasis on teamplay(the damage felt more significant and less OP than the attackspeed buff) than just solo carrying right now.

I don't mind the new Drow in terms of design, just ultimate shouldn't do 5 things in one. If you already gave her all that, don't make her 1-shot the ancients and ignore the armor completely, make it like 50%. She wouldn't have 55% win rate with high pick rate...

Also I edited last post if you haven't seen the link.

I guess i understand that but i still prefer the damage buff to range units rather than th AS buff. AS buff is actually pretty insane as drow just builds agi almost every item and that just gives everybody sooo much AS.

At least the damage buff isn't even that much till drow gets like fullslotted.
this is a quote
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
May 06 2019 12:53 GMT
#72
On May 06 2019 21:48 ShiaoPi wrote:
draft seems about even? Not sure who I favor here honestly..

Topson is playing Pango.
My money is on VP.
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 06 2019 12:57 GMT
#73
On May 06 2019 21:52 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2019 21:49 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On May 06 2019 21:46 goody153 wrote:
On May 06 2019 21:44 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On May 06 2019 21:41 goody153 wrote:
On May 06 2019 21:24 Ramiz1989 wrote:
It's so idiotic seeing Drow getting killed 3 times in a row in the early game, and still being 2k networth above second most farmed hero just because she can kill ancients and camps in few seconds. Not sure why her ult even works on ancients like on normal creeps and not like on heroes, dealing extra damage.

It is still an ultimate. It has to be worthwhile. Tho the ignore armor is worthwhile but that alone without the farming capacity makes drow a whatever pick.

It has a chance to deal bonus damage on heroes, pierces evasion and ignores armor. That ALONE is worthwhile. Tanky heroes against Drow don't exist, she melts them all. It instant kill creeps, which is amazing as well. Instant killing ancients is just fucking stupid.

I'll be honest i liked the old drow better than this one.

I mean it was a niche pick but it wasn't that bad even before in terms of 1 position. And it had alot more emphasis on teamplay(the damage felt more significant and less OP than the attackspeed buff) than just solo carrying right now.

I don't mind the new Drow in terms of design, just ultimate shouldn't do 5 things in one. If you already gave her all that, don't make her 1-shot the ancients and ignore the armor completely, make it like 50%. She wouldn't have 55% win rate with high pick rate...

Also I edited last post if you haven't seen the link.

I guess i understand that but i still prefer the damage buff to range units rather than th AS buff. AS buff is actually pretty insane as drow just builds agi almost every item and that just gives everybody sooo much AS.

At least the damage buff isn't even that much till drow gets like fullslotted.

I don't know, on one side I dislike that it is still called Precision aura when it gives AS now LOL and it doesn't make much sense, on the other hand when it gave damage it was breaking the game in completely different ways. Familiars from Visage became absurd with it, laning stage became a lot easier for her team as that little bit of damage up until level 6 matters a lot, you last hit easier, deny easier, harass more, get level 6 faster and than snowball out of that.

It definitely feels weird seeing all that attack speed though, but I don't think that she would be even close to this absurd if her ultimate wasn't all-in-one.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
May 06 2019 12:59 GMT
#74
It really feels like OG are tilting VP with their playstyle and permanent usage of taunting. VP are tasting their own medicine and it tastes very sour currently.

That ult by NoOne to kill a Lvl2-Abaddon and NoTail is still able to deny himself...oh boy.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
May 06 2019 13:00 GMT
#75
notail's networth is legendary rn
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
May 06 2019 13:05 GMT
#76
On May 06 2019 22:00 Wineandbread wrote:
notail's networth is legendary rn

18 minutes brown boots last game and they were doing well. The true ultimate position 12 xD
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44163 Posts
May 06 2019 13:06 GMT
#77
I was never an OG fan but i really love watching the Ana-Topson iteration. Their teamplay is so flavorful. They do all these really clutch fights
this is a quote
Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
May 06 2019 13:07 GMT
#78
ana is going to be a problem
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44163 Posts
May 06 2019 13:08 GMT
#79
On May 06 2019 22:07 Wineandbread wrote:
ana is going to be a problem

think he was already a problem like 5 minutes ago
this is a quote
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-06 13:12:17
May 06 2019 13:08 GMT
#80
One more fight like this and they will GG out again.

EDIT: There we have it. Schedule now has 90 min spare time, EE its your turn for another one hour game to be on track again. :D
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
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