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Tegenaria
Profile Joined November 2011
France379 Posts
May 04 2019 08:32 GMT
#21
Finally a Pudge pick !!

Secret vs Empire
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 04 2019 08:32 GMT
#22
On May 04 2019 17:25 Sloke wrote:
so how is there any synergy in liquids draft? whats the goal? end in under 30min?


Wipe out the towers while Naga farms, then use an Aegis to take high ground with Naga hits her first peak before the Medusa/Drow gets going. At 60 minutes, Keen should walk away with this, but they're going to have trouble getting there.
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
May 04 2019 08:35 GMT
#23
Great start into the Major having pauses for several minutes in the first series...andd now a pause for indefinite time. This sucks.

Keen can run over Liquid in 20 min, afterwards Liquid may have a time window but late game Drow, Medusa, NP will just crush Naga again. Don't feel the draft at all as well, but I hope they show me that I am wrong.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5281 Posts
May 04 2019 08:37 GMT
#24
where's that Pudge hype?!.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
May 04 2019 08:40 GMT
#25
VP is really gonna make fun of TT in this game >D
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calippo
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2525 Posts
May 04 2019 08:42 GMT
#26
lmao, not even 1080 60 fps official stream, what a joke
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
May 04 2019 08:43 GMT
#27
On May 04 2019 17:42 calippo wrote:
lmao, not even 1080 60 fps official stream, what a joke

Refresh the stream and u gonna have 1080p.
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babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
May 04 2019 08:43 GMT
#28
You tend to want a lineup with sustained dps against dusa, not a lineup with burst. Doesn't look good when Liquid can't even win lanes. And they are going to lose more map control against furion drow, and might never get a chance to even hit their early game timing.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 04 2019 08:43 GMT
#29
Okay, is it suddenly Grimstroke day? I'm guessing someone won a bunch of scrims with it.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 04 2019 08:45 GMT
#30
On May 04 2019 17:43 babysimba wrote:
You tend to want a lineup with sustained dps against dusa, not a lineup with burst. Doesn't look good when Liquid can't even win lanes. And they are going to lose more map control against furion drow, and might never get a chance to even hit their early game timing.


It would be nice if someone got the smart idea to hunt the Medaus and/or Drow around the map after about 10 minutes.
calippo
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2525 Posts
May 04 2019 08:45 GMT
#31
On May 04 2019 17:43 739 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2019 17:42 calippo wrote:
lmao, not even 1080 60 fps official stream, what a joke

Refresh the stream and u gonna have 1080p.


thanks
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babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
May 04 2019 08:46 GMT
#32
On May 04 2019 17:45 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2019 17:43 babysimba wrote:
You tend to want a lineup with sustained dps against dusa, not a lineup with burst. Doesn't look good when Liquid can't even win lanes. And they are going to lose more map control against furion drow, and might never get a chance to even hit their early game timing.


It would be nice if someone got the smart idea to hunt the Medaus and/or Drow around the map after about 10 minutes.

The problem is they can't really hunt if Keen start taking down tier 1s early and keep pushing lanes in with furion.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 04 2019 08:48 GMT
#33
On May 04 2019 17:46 babysimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2019 17:45 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On May 04 2019 17:43 babysimba wrote:
You tend to want a lineup with sustained dps against dusa, not a lineup with burst. Doesn't look good when Liquid can't even win lanes. And they are going to lose more map control against furion drow, and might never get a chance to even hit their early game timing.


It would be nice if someone got the smart idea to hunt the Medaus and/or Drow around the map after about 10 minutes.

The problem is they can't really hunt if Keen start taking down tier 1s early and keep pushing lanes in with furion.


I know, it's just that I watched most of the Minor and this happens in every hard-carry meta. There is a point between 10 and 20 minutes that a lot of really aggressive rotations will get you a lot more than just letting a hard carry farm freely. Obviously, losing lanes makes that approach difficult, which is why lanes have been so important lately, but it'd still be nice to see some actual aggression where it's useful.
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
May 04 2019 08:51 GMT
#34
Triple Kill from Dusa after 11 minutes. This is already getting out of hands.

Losing again their lanes that hard. I wonder what rmn and Kuro have been doing since Dreamhack. Even the Casters have mentioned that Liquid is having serious issues with their laning stages.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-04 08:58:21
May 04 2019 08:55 GMT
#35
Nevermind >.<
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Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-04 08:58:38
May 04 2019 08:58 GMT
#36
guess that drow/dusa lineup is online* after barely 15min ... don't see how keen is giving this one away
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44163 Posts
May 04 2019 08:58 GMT
#37
really bad engagement by Keen
this is a quote
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 04 2019 08:58 GMT
#38
On May 04 2019 17:55 739 wrote:
Dunno, if TL keeps drafting like this and giving away games, I think they're gonna need a rebuild.
Let's see if they start playing in next game, cause this one is done.


Keen might have just caught them off guard with the draft. Opening Drow/NP was good and, as NiP & Ehome showed at the Minor, Drow is a perfectly viable first-phase material.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 04 2019 09:00 GMT
#39
Keen vs TL is the only interesting game 1. Top-ranked teams are kinda rolling the other matches right now.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 04 2019 09:02 GMT
#40
Keen just made the classic Shadow Shaman mistake of using Wards to kill someone that isn't the Carry.
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