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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
March 19 2019 13:11 GMT
#21
Nice disengage from EG while BKB was up ... and then hit hard!
There can only be one Geisterkarle
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
March 19 2019 13:12 GMT
#22
Well, Ace's positioning is still bad like all tournament and this might be the first game I'm honestly confused they didn't pick Razor for Fata. Granted, ppd's biggest weakness as a drafter is never having enough damage.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
March 19 2019 13:13 GMT
#23
They could only commit to this fight if :

1) Lycan on ult killed Fly
2) They killed Sven while he was hexed

Both scenarios didn't happen, so, I can't see them winning at this point. I mean that's possible with little of EG help but..
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
March 19 2019 13:14 GMT
#24
It's like NiP watched Keen beat EG and didn't take a single note.
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-19 13:17:34
March 19 2019 13:17 GMT
#25
Who the fuck is making calls on NiP to go into Rosh like that

edit: that was soooo close to being a disaster
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
March 19 2019 13:18 GMT
#26
Rat doto only the way to compete.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
March 19 2019 13:20 GMT
#27
On March 19 2019 22:17 Moobutt wrote:
Who the fuck is making calls on NiP to go into Rosh like that

edit: that was soooo close to being a disaster


NiP took a push draft and itemized like they were going to play a late-game 3-core draft.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
March 19 2019 13:26 GMT
#28
NiP has to go away from the Shaman. They clearly can't play at the pace needed with Shaman against Tier 1 teams.
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
March 19 2019 13:28 GMT
#29
On March 19 2019 22:20 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2019 22:17 Moobutt wrote:
Who the fuck is making calls on NiP to go into Rosh like that

edit: that was soooo close to being a disaster


NiP took a push draft and itemized like they were going to play a late-game 3-core draft.

I think after Timber laning failed hard, they realized they had to go late even though it was sub-optimal. Maybe they could have pulled it off if they had a second rat hero.
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-19 13:36:33
March 19 2019 13:33 GMT
#30
On March 19 2019 22:28 Moobutt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2019 22:20 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On March 19 2019 22:17 Moobutt wrote:
Who the fuck is making calls on NiP to go into Rosh like that

edit: that was soooo close to being a disaster


NiP took a push draft and itemized like they were going to play a late-game 3-core draft.

I think after Timber laning failed hard, they realized they had to go late even though it was sub-optimal. Maybe they could have pulled it off if they had a second rat hero.


Their cores couldn't afford to get picked off when they do that, but they shed too many deaths. Optic always had that problem last season. ppd is clearly trying to work out a 3-core lineup generally (at least this tournament), but they really haven't found the right mix since Day 1.

Other problem is NiP ended up with very little actual applicable damage. Slacks' suggestion of (edit) Prophet was probably the correct one for the last pick hero, somehow.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-19 13:36:49
March 19 2019 13:35 GMT
#31
I don't really see how they somehow itemized for later on.

But their only initiation was Lycan popping ult and running in. Probably would have helped to have the Ursa be their main initiator, even if blinking into EG's heroes doesn't exactly feel good. But at least you can try to kill one person with him and Lycan and give space for Timber and Shaman to throw some spells

And for a last pick of the entire draft the Timber ended up being pretty underwhelming. Something to bring some lockdown probably would have made playing easier
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
March 19 2019 13:38 GMT
#32
Earth Spirit is really tanky, which was surprising.
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
March 19 2019 13:39 GMT
#33
I didn't understand the timbersaw anyway... they had Viper and its break! Timber looses his biggest strenght with a simple click!
There can only be one Geisterkarle
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-19 13:43:16
March 19 2019 13:41 GMT
#34
Earth Spirit, Lifestealer first phase bans coming from NiP next game for sure. Maybe a naga ban.

edit: lul nevermind. PPD gonna PPD
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
March 19 2019 13:44 GMT
#35
First pick Undying.

Thanks ppd, never change.
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
March 19 2019 13:45 GMT
#36
On March 19 2019 22:39 Geisterkarle wrote:
I didn't understand the timbersaw anyway... they had Viper and its break! Timber looses his biggest strenght with a simple click!


Viper & Witchdoctor. It was the anti-pick pretty hard, even if Timber's lane hadn't gotten destroyed. They just had to pick the Razor and they'd have been fine. I get they wanted to shut down RTZ, but that almost never happens. EG will sell out to prevent RTZ from being shut down.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
March 19 2019 13:45 GMT
#37
On March 19 2019 22:44 739 wrote:
First pick Undying.

Thanks ppd, never change.


Undying is fine, but Shadow Shaman they have problems beating Tier 3 CIS Teams with.
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
March 19 2019 13:47 GMT
#38
On March 19 2019 22:45 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2019 22:39 Geisterkarle wrote:
I didn't understand the timbersaw anyway... they had Viper and its break! Timber looses his biggest strenght with a simple click!


Viper & Witchdoctor. It was the anti-pick pretty hard, even if Timber's lane hadn't gotten destroyed. They just had to pick the Razor and they'd have been fine. I get they wanted to shut down RTZ, but that almost never happens. EG will sell out to prevent RTZ from being shut down.

Are there even any teams that ever shut down RTZ? It doesn't seem like there's even a road map from another team that NiP could follow.
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-19 13:49:48
March 19 2019 13:49 GMT
#39
Well, I heard, that putting RTZ on a cliff really helps...
There can only be one Geisterkarle
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-19 13:52:50
March 19 2019 13:49 GMT
#40
On March 19 2019 22:47 Moobutt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2019 22:45 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On March 19 2019 22:39 Geisterkarle wrote:
I didn't understand the timbersaw anyway... they had Viper and its break! Timber looses his biggest strenght with a simple click!


Viper & Witchdoctor. It was the anti-pick pretty hard, even if Timber's lane hadn't gotten destroyed. They just had to pick the Razor and they'd have been fine. I get they wanted to shut down RTZ, but that almost never happens. EG will sell out to prevent RTZ from being shut down.

Are there even any teams that ever shut down RTZ? It doesn't seem like there's even a road map from another team that NiP could follow.


In some patches it happens, but mostly what happens is RTZ takes all of the farm from the rest of his team.

And NiP still isn't drafting great damage. (I've had this complaint about ppd's drafting since at least TI6 era.)

Edit: Okay, they picked a Huskar. That's a lot more damage.
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