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Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
August 25 2018 02:18 GMT
#1181
On August 25 2018 11:14 Achaian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2018 11:10 Circumstance wrote:
If EG can win one of the next two games, they will have made the Top 3 or better in half of the TIs that there have ever been.


there have been a rather large number of roster changes since EG's previous top 3 finishes, however

If anything, I think it speaks more towards the organization's history in eSports. They likely have a deep well of know how and talent for developing talented and successful competitors.
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 25 2018 02:18 GMT
#1182
On August 25 2018 11:13 Kishin2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2018 11:11 dragonswarrior wrote:
I'm getting a little tired of folks calling sloppy Dota in games like this. Both teams are playing on the proverbial edge, trying to get everything out of the game and map that they possibly can. They're taking calculated risks. Maybe they wouldn't take them if they weren't in TI, but then if Liquid had just holed up in their base or moved around as 5 constantly EG would have split push them to death. OTOH if RTZ hadn't tried to get as much farm as possible he never would have been a threat to the CK.

People thought this was a sloppy game?

Inevitable outcome of better competition. Better teams overall will make the top teams look worse overall.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
dragonswarrior
Profile Joined August 2015
389 Posts
August 25 2018 02:19 GMT
#1183
On August 25 2018 11:16 Orome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2018 11:12 dragonswarrior wrote:
On August 25 2018 11:11 Orome wrote:
Look Dota, I've had a rough week. Is it too much to ask that the teams I like win? And that the team I want to win the whole thing doesn't throw game 3 of the UB finals like a random pubstack?

Yours faithfully, me

Hey pal, I've had a rough week too and an EG victory tonight would make everything much better.

Cheers.


You can have the EG win today if I get LGD tomorrow!

I wish I could say "deal!" because that'd be nice... But I'd be lying XD. I want Sumail to be the first to win two TI's more than anything else in Dota.
“Words are pale shadows of forgotten names. As names have power, words have power. Words can light fires in the minds of men. Words can wring tears from the hardest hearts.”
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2865 Posts
August 25 2018 02:20 GMT
#1184
On August 25 2018 11:13 Kishin2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2018 11:11 dragonswarrior wrote:
I'm getting a little tired of folks calling sloppy Dota in games like this. Both teams are playing on the proverbial edge, trying to get everything out of the game and map that they possibly can. They're taking calculated risks. Maybe they wouldn't take them if they weren't in TI, but then if Liquid had just holed up in their base or moved around as 5 constantly EG would have split push them to death. OTOH if RTZ hadn't tried to get as much farm as possible he never would have been a threat to the CK.

People thought this was a sloppy game?

On August 25 2018 11:04 a-game wrote:
i feel like the primary attribute of that game was sloppiness by both sides

Apparently.

I thought it was mostly pretty impressively tight; the only moment I thought was at all throw-y was EG giving the rapier back with that teamfight fuck-up.
dragonswarrior
Profile Joined August 2015
389 Posts
August 25 2018 02:22 GMT
#1185
It's very rare that my highest winrate first pick hero for pubs is also the first pick hero for TI, but Venge is Venge.
“Words are pale shadows of forgotten names. As names have power, words have power. Words can light fires in the minds of men. Words can wring tears from the hardest hearts.”
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
August 25 2018 02:23 GMT
#1186
On August 25 2018 11:20 ASoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2018 11:13 Kishin2 wrote:
On August 25 2018 11:11 dragonswarrior wrote:
I'm getting a little tired of folks calling sloppy Dota in games like this. Both teams are playing on the proverbial edge, trying to get everything out of the game and map that they possibly can. They're taking calculated risks. Maybe they wouldn't take them if they weren't in TI, but then if Liquid had just holed up in their base or moved around as 5 constantly EG would have split push them to death. OTOH if RTZ hadn't tried to get as much farm as possible he never would have been a threat to the CK.

People thought this was a sloppy game?

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2018 11:04 a-game wrote:
i feel like the primary attribute of that game was sloppiness by both sides

Apparently.

I thought it was mostly pretty impressively tight; the only moment I thought was at all throw-y was EG giving the rapier back with that teamfight fuck-up.

I thought the LGD-OG was significantly more sloppy than this game. Here you just had both teams playing to their draft's strengths, looking for openings but neither team giving any. I think if anyone wants to call a game sloppy this is one of the last ones to do so.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
August 25 2018 02:23 GMT
#1187
EG strategy just pick Willow 100% of the time.
Damned627
Profile Joined November 2016
Indonesia264 Posts
August 25 2018 02:24 GMT
#1188
Well, please stop calling these high tension games as "sloppy". Them being sloppy is bound to happen when you got everything on the line. The sloppiness is also giving us pure entertainment by watching them claw back from the mistakes they made.

Tommorow is gonna be one hell of a day.
None
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
August 25 2018 02:26 GMT
#1189
EG picked spectre a lot group stage, not so much on the main stage.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 25 2018 02:26 GMT
#1190
On August 25 2018 11:18 Moobutt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2018 11:14 Achaian wrote:
On August 25 2018 11:10 Circumstance wrote:
If EG can win one of the next two games, they will have made the Top 3 or better in half of the TIs that there have ever been.


there have been a rather large number of roster changes since EG's previous top 3 finishes, however

If anything, I think it speaks more towards the organization's history in eSports. They likely have a deep well of know how and talent for developing talented and successful competitors.

"developing" ?
more like poaching xd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
August 25 2018 02:27 GMT
#1191
What would make a hypothetical nerf on terrorize acceptable? I was thinking add a damage threshold once it's passed the fear is negated.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28095 Posts
August 25 2018 02:27 GMT
#1192
On August 25 2018 11:24 Damned627 wrote:
Well, please stop calling these high tension games as "sloppy". Them being sloppy is bound to happen when you got everything on the line. The sloppiness is also giving us pure entertainment by watching them claw back from the mistakes they made.

Tommorow is gonna be one hell of a day.

There's definitely some sloppy plays (in a game this difficult it's unavoidable even at pro play), but as you said the term gets thrown around a bit too much. A lot of "sloppy" play is just the other team pulling off a good play with better positioning.
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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
August 25 2018 02:28 GMT
#1193
On August 25 2018 11:19 dragonswarrior wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2018 11:16 Orome wrote:
On August 25 2018 11:12 dragonswarrior wrote:
On August 25 2018 11:11 Orome wrote:
Look Dota, I've had a rough week. Is it too much to ask that the teams I like win? And that the team I want to win the whole thing doesn't throw game 3 of the UB finals like a random pubstack?

Yours faithfully, me

Hey pal, I've had a rough week too and an EG victory tonight would make everything much better.

Cheers.


You can have the EG win today if I get LGD tomorrow!

I wish I could say "deal!" because that'd be nice... But I'd be lying XD. I want Sumail to be the first to win two TI's more than anything else in Dota.


it's a fight to the death then
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 25 2018 02:29 GMT
#1194
On August 25 2018 11:23 Kishin2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2018 11:20 ASoo wrote:
On August 25 2018 11:13 Kishin2 wrote:
On August 25 2018 11:11 dragonswarrior wrote:
I'm getting a little tired of folks calling sloppy Dota in games like this. Both teams are playing on the proverbial edge, trying to get everything out of the game and map that they possibly can. They're taking calculated risks. Maybe they wouldn't take them if they weren't in TI, but then if Liquid had just holed up in their base or moved around as 5 constantly EG would have split push them to death. OTOH if RTZ hadn't tried to get as much farm as possible he never would have been a threat to the CK.

People thought this was a sloppy game?

On August 25 2018 11:04 a-game wrote:
i feel like the primary attribute of that game was sloppiness by both sides

Apparently.

I thought it was mostly pretty impressively tight; the only moment I thought was at all throw-y was EG giving the rapier back with that teamfight fuck-up.

I thought the LGD-OG was significantly more sloppy than this game. Here you just had both teams playing to their draft's strengths, looking for openings but neither team giving any. I think if anyone wants to call a game sloppy this is one of the last ones to do so.

??
how can some random people in a lr thread call the upper bracket final of TI "sloppy"
wtf do u people even understand about whats going on lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
August 25 2018 02:30 GMT
#1195
Holy shit it's Viper
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
August 25 2018 02:31 GMT
#1196
On August 25 2018 11:29 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2018 11:23 Kishin2 wrote:
On August 25 2018 11:20 ASoo wrote:
On August 25 2018 11:13 Kishin2 wrote:
On August 25 2018 11:11 dragonswarrior wrote:
I'm getting a little tired of folks calling sloppy Dota in games like this. Both teams are playing on the proverbial edge, trying to get everything out of the game and map that they possibly can. They're taking calculated risks. Maybe they wouldn't take them if they weren't in TI, but then if Liquid had just holed up in their base or moved around as 5 constantly EG would have split push them to death. OTOH if RTZ hadn't tried to get as much farm as possible he never would have been a threat to the CK.

People thought this was a sloppy game?

On August 25 2018 11:04 a-game wrote:
i feel like the primary attribute of that game was sloppiness by both sides

Apparently.

I thought it was mostly pretty impressively tight; the only moment I thought was at all throw-y was EG giving the rapier back with that teamfight fuck-up.

I thought the LGD-OG was significantly more sloppy than this game. Here you just had both teams playing to their draft's strengths, looking for openings but neither team giving any. I think if anyone wants to call a game sloppy this is one of the last ones to do so.

??
how can some random people in a lr thread call the upper bracket final of TI "sloppy"
wtf do u people even understand about whats going on lmao

Did you watch the games? lol

You had cores not using BKB, running off alone into high ground dying, teams just forcing fights randomly not playing around their timings, etc.
ChickenDieAlive
Profile Joined September 2015
699 Posts
August 25 2018 02:31 GMT
#1197
NEW HEROES.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
August 25 2018 02:31 GMT
#1198
Fuck trees.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
August 25 2018 02:31 GMT
#1199
Winter is a god
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
August 25 2018 02:31 GMT
#1200
holyshit winter. somebody should sign him as a drafter.
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
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