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Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-20 20:06:03
August 20 2018 20:05 GMT
#441
On August 21 2018 05:02 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2018 04:59 Achaian wrote:
On August 21 2018 04:54 ChickenDieAlive wrote:
GG. Liquid is much better than Optics. When you can't deal with a second pick Brood, you know that you're just out-classed.

Either Liquid vs. LGD or Liquid vs. VP will be a more even match-up.


LGD lost to second pick brood in the only group stage game where liquid actually got brood. The hero is broken and liquid is very good besides; they don't need it to win.

Brood has no lane counters except for a higher skilled TA or kunkka player. Tiny dies to brood at 6 and every encounter thereafter.

I saw abed or somebody own liquid with tiny against brood. Ccnc probably just didn't have the same lane dominance but tiny can certainly win

After seeing a top brood player get owned I lost the belief that brood has no direct counter


the problem with brood isn't the hero, it's that mid is extremely safe right now, as long as no player is going crazy diving or anything. If you do get to punish a brood, she's utterly useless for a long time, until she finds minutes to farm up uncontested.
ironcell
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1127 Posts
August 20 2018 20:05 GMT
#442
On August 21 2018 05:04 goody153 wrote:
Lmao PPD hoping fnatic keeps going spiral after their really scary start


Yeah his interview was kind of amazing
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 20 2018 20:05 GMT
#443
On August 21 2018 05:02 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2018 04:59 Achaian wrote:
On August 21 2018 04:54 ChickenDieAlive wrote:
GG. Liquid is much better than Optics. When you can't deal with a second pick Brood, you know that you're just out-classed.

Either Liquid vs. LGD or Liquid vs. VP will be a more even match-up.


LGD lost to second pick brood in the only group stage game where liquid actually got brood. The hero is broken and liquid is very good besides; they don't need it to win.

Brood has no lane counters except for a higher skilled TA or kunkka player. Tiny dies to brood at 6 and every encounter thereafter.

I saw abed or somebody own liquid with tiny against brood. Ccnc probably just didn't have the same lane dominance but tiny can certainly win

After seeing a top brood player get owned I lost the belief that brood has no direct counter


you're right I missed that game reading over liquipedia
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
August 20 2018 20:06 GMT
#444
In the Abed Tiny vs Matu Brood game Matu just screwed up and died to Abed solo at lvl 3 or 4 if I recall correctly. That played a big role in the Brood being more behind in that matchup than he needed to be. Probably it should go more in the manner we saw here where the Brood can trade farm just fine
Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
August 20 2018 20:06 GMT
#445
On August 21 2018 04:54 ironcell wrote:
Can you suggest a team in this TI that look as scary and overwhelming as Liquid ?
(I know that LGD and VP are supposed to be equals but they havent look like this yet)


LGD was able to draw Liquid in the group stage. I think this series was more indicitive of OpTic’s strength. They made the upperbracket but every team in the lower bracket in group B were had either 7 or 8 wins. Serenity was a TNC Megacreep comeback from joining the tiebreakers.

OpTic vs Fnatic/Serenity will be interesting.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10876 Posts
August 20 2018 20:07 GMT
#446
Is there really an hour break right now?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42393 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-20 20:08:21
August 20 2018 20:08 GMT
#447
On August 21 2018 05:05 ironcell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2018 05:04 goody153 wrote:
Lmao PPD hoping fnatic keeps going spiral after their really scary start


Yeah his interview was kind of amazing


realist and straightforward. Thats why i like ppd. Good interview.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
August 20 2018 20:09 GMT
#448
Time for the title match! I always want VP to do well, but idk they are not that clutch. Have a good feeling that LGD is gonna take it home here.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
August 20 2018 20:10 GMT
#449
On August 21 2018 05:07 Velr wrote:
Is there really an hour break right now?

Nah they are doing the games back to back
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44260 Posts
August 20 2018 20:11 GMT
#450
On August 21 2018 05:08 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2018 05:05 ironcell wrote:
On August 21 2018 05:04 goody153 wrote:
Lmao PPD hoping fnatic keeps going spiral after their really scary start


Yeah his interview was kind of amazing


realist and straightforward. Thats why i like ppd. Good interview.

As much as he annoys me with the gloathing stuff he says. I like his straightforwardness as well lol
this is a quote
Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
August 20 2018 20:11 GMT
#451
karting............
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
August 20 2018 20:12 GMT
#452
Hahaha Chalice about FY, that's gold. :D
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 20 2018 20:12 GMT
#453
Quality captainship there, fy.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44260 Posts
August 20 2018 20:12 GMT
#454
"Tbh i didn't know fy is the captain" - chalice says seriously

Lmao
this is a quote
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10876 Posts
August 20 2018 20:13 GMT
#455
These Karts are slow... wow...
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44260 Posts
August 20 2018 20:13 GMT
#456
Huh so fy and maybe are shotcallers
this is a quote
BlazingGlory
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria855 Posts
August 20 2018 20:13 GMT
#457
Good timing for LGD-VP . I can watch it and go to bed barely in time.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44260 Posts
August 20 2018 20:15 GMT
#458
It's almost sunrise here. I think I'll only last till the fnatic series
this is a quote
Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
August 20 2018 20:16 GMT
#459
I hope this is a good series. I'd be happy for either team winning it all

Slightly favor LGD heart, but head says VP here. My guess is that this first game we'll see a very niche strat
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
August 20 2018 20:16 GMT
#460
On August 21 2018 05:15 goody153 wrote:
It's almost sunrise here. I think I'll only last till the fnatic series

tbh the first two BO1s are the two worth watching.
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