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Teams!Fixtures & Results![[image loading]](/staff/Julmust/lr_threads/team_logos/234x90/mineski.png) ![[image loading]](/staff/tehh4ck3r/team_logos/pain_gaming_white.png) Friday, Jan 05 6:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00) ![[image loading]](/staff/Julmust/lr_threads/team_logos/234x90/eg.png) ![[image loading]](/staff/Julmust/lr_threads/team_logos/234x90/secret_white.png) Thursday, Jan 04 9:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Semi Final ![[image loading]](/staff/Nixer/other/tba_white.png) CSS: FO-nTTaX Awesomeness: Panda Banner: Summit | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
Poll: Mineski vs Pain Gaming Mineski Win (13) Pain Gaming Win (1) 14 total votes Your vote: Mineski vs Pain Gaming | ||
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fixed_point
Germany4891 Posts
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Tegenaria
France379 Posts
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LennX
4553 Posts
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babysimba
10466 Posts
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maze.
Germany1392 Posts
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nVme
952 Posts
i predict mineski or vg | ||
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GOHF
United States1864 Posts
"Pick order!" "America!" | ||
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nVme
952 Posts
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
secret took both top lane towers + rosh and EG has been stuck on this bot tier 2 for like 10 minutes | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
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Papercappu
Canada2210 Posts
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its_a_me
Austria612 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
That force to stop Dark Rift was sick. | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
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goody153
44125 Posts
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its_a_me
Austria612 Posts
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On January 06 2018 04:20 goody153 wrote: what is this lich+bh as supports ? captain's draft | ||
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babysimba
10466 Posts
I believe that was midone's forcestaff? | ||
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calippo
Sweden2525 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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goody153
44125 Posts
nevermind i forgot we are on captains draft | ||
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Archeon
3253 Posts
Game was good as well, interesting to see sumail and fear with basically switched roles this game. | ||
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its_a_me
Austria612 Posts
On January 06 2018 04:20 TomatoBisque wrote: Okay who made that force staff play, that was sick midone | ||
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wims80
1892 Posts
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
Looking at clips I think it was Yapzor, his was on cooldown about right after and Midone is forced in the chasedown which would probably be himself. Plus I think Yapzor was the only one close enough | ||
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Papercappu
Canada2210 Posts
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Archeon
3253 Posts
On January 06 2018 04:25 wims80 wrote: why are they playing in thick winter jackets, does these guys dont have any heating in the middle of the winter? Idk where the tournament is, but I've heard the north-east of the USA are affected by one of the coldest winters in the last 20 years. Maybe they normally don't need heaters there? | ||
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On January 06 2018 04:30 Archeon wrote: Idk where the tournament is, but I've heard the north-east of the USA are affected by one of the coldest winters in the last 20 years. Maybe they normally don't need heaters there? it's in Washington DC | ||
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Archeon
3253 Posts
Then nvm my explanation. It's freezing compared to normal (10°F/-12°C), but still cold enough in January normally to require heaters (35°F/1°C). | ||
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
I'm ready for game 3 | ||
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Papercappu
Canada2210 Posts
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On January 06 2018 04:50 Papercappu wrote: Secret draft already look like a disaster. puck against nightstalker & the only building damage is lesh & he have to go highground against warlock & magnus Clinkz is building damage but Clinkz is also awful | ||
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spudde123
4814 Posts
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
e: yeah brax agrees | ||
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babysimba
10466 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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Archeon
3253 Posts
On January 06 2018 05:14 babysimba wrote: Timber 100 dmg talent is better than 5 more reactive armor stacks honestly. Always dealt a ton of building damage with that talent choice instead. Idk, with Clinkz+Lesh their problem wasn't building damage and most of EG's damage was physical. I guess you can siege better with timber, but Secret needed to win the fights first. | ||
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nVme
952 Posts
On January 06 2018 05:24 Archeon wrote: I don't think it was just the Clinkz, Lesh and Puck didn't have impact either. Idk, with Clinkz+Lesh their problem wasn't building damage and most of EG's damage was physical. I guess you can siege better with timber, but Secret needed to win the fights first. the silences from dp and misery owned es and puck | ||
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Archeon
3253 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
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spudde123
4814 Posts
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Archeon
3253 Posts
 Edit: Nvm, EG missed their timing. | ||
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CatharsisUT
United States487 Posts
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Thetwinmasters
3578 Posts
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Archeon
3253 Posts
On January 06 2018 06:38 Thetwinmasters wrote: eg getting worse with every roster change they make lmfao Idk, that was their first tournament with the new roster, I'd give it some time. | ||
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Damned627
Indonesia264 Posts
On January 06 2018 06:38 Thetwinmasters wrote: eg getting worse with every roster change they make lmfao ? They're performing well here for a team that just have experienced a roster change and role exchange. Fear gyro is a sight I thought I wouldn't see again. | ||
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babysimba
10466 Posts
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Thetwinmasters
3578 Posts
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Minishield
Italy145 Posts
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Theoren
Canada810 Posts
On January 06 2018 06:38 Thetwinmasters wrote: eg getting worse with every roster change they make lmfao I mean they did pretty good considering who they were playing. Secret has been by far the best team since TI. | ||
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Xurr
Germany313 Posts
On January 06 2018 06:38 Thetwinmasters wrote: eg getting worse with every roster change they make lmfao EG played a very good game and even fans of EG have to accept that in a EG vs Secret match EG is the clear underdog at the moment. I think they showed quite a bit of promise this tournament. | ||
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MetalMercury
United States1161 Posts
I like EG's strategic ideas in terms of their laning stage, but they find themselves out of position a lot the mid game, especially SumaiL. While I think more time in the offlane role would certainly help him, he had this problem while playing mid too so it might just be a character trait they have to learn to play and strategize around. Let's go Mineski! Show Team Secret the door. | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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PoulsenB
Poland7711 Posts
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On January 06 2018 06:48 PoulsenB wrote: EG haters lul twin is just tsundere, he's a huge EG fan | ||
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Xurr
Germany313 Posts
On January 06 2018 06:46 MetalMercury wrote: That was a really entertaining series! One of the best I've seen in a long time, lots of back and forth games. I like EG's strategic ideas in terms of their laning stage, but they find themselves out of position a lot the mid game, especially SumaiL. While I think more time in the offlane role would certainly help him, he had this problem while playing mid too so it might just be a character trait they have to learn to play and strategize around. Let's go Mineski! Show Team Secret the door. If it's a character trait of Sumail they should have learned to play around that quite a while ago don't you think? I mean Sumail is on the team 3 years this very day. | ||
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nVme
952 Posts
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nVme
952 Posts
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nVme
952 Posts
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nVme
952 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
Secret's teamfighting on point. | ||
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Archeon
3253 Posts
On January 06 2018 06:45 Theoren wrote: I mean they did pretty good considering who they were playing. Secret has been by far the best team since TI. Wut? You noticed Secret has half of liquid's results since TI, right? And struggled a lot in the groupstage actually. | ||
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GOHF
United States1864 Posts
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Papercappu
Canada2210 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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Wineandbread
United States2065 Posts
WK pos4/5 new meta | ||
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Archeon
3253 Posts
On January 06 2018 08:24 M.S.Bismarck wrote: I'm not sure how much you can take away from the group stage in this tournament since they were best of 1s. Mineski beating them once there clearly doesn't mean they'll auto-win every game they play against them afterwards. Not denying that Secret are likely the favorites for the tournament, just saying that they looked less dominant than in the major they won and that there's more to being "by far the best team since TI" than winning a single stacked tournament. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
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Minishield
Italy145 Posts
On January 06 2018 09:16 PhoenixVoid wrote: Secret looking super strong for the rest of the tourney despite a poor group stage. That was more an outdraft than just execution. Mineski draft just couldnt deal with Dusa and WK. But still Secret looking strong | ||
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On January 06 2018 08:22 Archeon wrote: Wut? You noticed Secret has half of liquid's results since TI, right? And struggled a lot in the groupstage actually. Secret has the most DPC points and has been in the finals of both Majors (and won one of them). Liquid won two minors (one of which Secret didn't even attend). Secret has also beat Liquid in their last 3 series (2-1, 2-1, 3-0) By what measure has Liquid been doing better post-TI? | ||
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Papercappu
Canada2210 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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MetalMercury
United States1161 Posts
On January 06 2018 09:22 Minishield wrote: That was more an outdraft than just execution. Mineski draft just couldnt deal with Dusa and WK. But still Secret looking strong Yep; I'm pretty happy with Mineski's performance in this tournament! They got some points back on the board, and they're a team that's much better in captain's mode IMO than in captain's draft since their drafting is not their strong suit imo. Nothing wrong with losing here to a team like Secret. The hope is to be able to beat them when TI comes around; if you have to lose now to begin learning then that's a fine trade imo. | ||
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Kelefei2016
Papua New Guinea504 Posts
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Kelefei2016
Papua New Guinea504 Posts
On January 06 2018 07:42 nVme wrote: i honestly think jabz is a top 4 position player Agreed. Maybe somehow he was Faceless carry before do help him in undertsanding and assisting the carry. But i guess Secret Yapzor is a little bit better than Jabz | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On January 06 2018 11:11 cecek wrote: Secret has been the best team in the new season by any metric imaginable, there's no conversation to be had here. Liquid and VP have won two ranking events while Secret have won just one. VP won the one tournament all three attended. So that's two metrics Secret lose on. In fact, the only meaningful metric I can think of that they win is points. There's plenty of discussion to be had. | ||
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Damned627
Indonesia264 Posts
On January 06 2018 18:29 FuzzyJAM wrote: Liquid and VP have won two ranking events while Secret have won just one. VP won the one tournament all three attended. So that's two metrics Secret lose on. In fact, the only meaningful metric I can think of that they win is points. There's plenty of discussion to be had. VP also attended Dreamleague 8, but dropped out against EG at the LB round 2. Secret is 2 for 2 to appear in a Major Final. Again, there's plenty discussion to be had. On the other hand, EG looks promising. I couldn't fathom that Fear core is still as solid as ever, and both Arteezy and Sumail are adapting very nicely with just 6 competitive match, maybe they'll surprise us more at Genting and Katowice. | ||
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