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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 12 2017 22:43 GMT
#1921
bs = auto lose
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 12 2017 22:43 GMT
#1922
Honestly, i do think that it is about time Liquid's players got a TI title, but i do not want to witness the worst TI final of all time for that.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 12 2017 22:43 GMT
#1923
Newbee's draft is just plain shit, CM and Nyx as supports against a run at you draft with NP+Slardar
The Real Power~
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
August 12 2017 22:44 GMT
#1924
On August 13 2017 07:40 babysimba wrote:
I bet if Liquid win this 3-0, western audience still think it is better than TI4 because a western team wins.

I completely missed TI4 (also TI1 and most of TI2), but even if the final is underwhelming I would rate this TI as better than TI5&6 because of the meta and the high number of nailbiting games in the knockout bracket.
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
August 12 2017 22:44 GMT
#1925
mc is such a monster to couriers
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 12 2017 22:45 GMT
#1926
On August 13 2017 07:44 Mafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 07:40 babysimba wrote:
I bet if Liquid win this 3-0, western audience still think it is better than TI4 because a western team wins.

I completely missed TI4 (also TI1 and most of TI2), but even if the final is underwhelming I would rate this TI as better than TI5&6 because of the meta and the high number of nailbiting games in the knockout bracket.

Well, you do have a point, i can only name 2 nailbiters between those 2 TIs.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
yyfpulls
Profile Joined November 2012
United States2185 Posts
August 12 2017 22:45 GMT
#1927
furion right click is like a cannon
cassurai
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore307 Posts
August 12 2017 22:45 GMT
#1928
mc on prophet is like a different person.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 12 2017 22:45 GMT
#1929
Why didn't NP teleport directly to fountain with the TP Scroll?
EZ4ENCE
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 12 2017 22:46 GMT
#1930
what
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
August 12 2017 22:46 GMT
#1931
matumba??
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16848 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-12 22:46:52
August 12 2017 22:46 GMT
#1932
On August 13 2017 07:44 Mafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 07:40 babysimba wrote:
I bet if Liquid win this 3-0, western audience still think it is better than TI4 because a western team wins.

I completely missed TI4 (also TI1 and most of TI2), but even if the final is underwhelming I would rate this TI as better than TI5&6 because of the meta and the high number of nailbiting games in the knockout bracket.

ehome eg + wings gaming make ti6 better
maybe even ti5 is better, because it was crazy with secret and how they collapsed etc.

oh and both TIs had koreans. they were cool
The Bomber boy
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 12 2017 22:48 GMT
#1933
brainfart by gh
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
August 12 2017 22:48 GMT
#1934
ghhhh plz
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Aceace
Profile Joined June 2011
Turkey1305 Posts
August 12 2017 22:48 GMT
#1935
GH choked so hard.
Dün dündür, bugün bugündür. (Yesterday was yesterday, today is today)
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 12 2017 22:49 GMT
#1936
And it's not like it is instant cast or something...
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
August 12 2017 22:49 GMT
#1937
Slardar status: FUCKING DELETED
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 12 2017 22:50 GMT
#1938
jesus, Liquid try so hard to throw games
The Real Power~
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 12 2017 22:50 GMT
#1939
Lmao that awkward silence
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
RubickPicker
Profile Joined October 2015
United States332 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-12 22:52:55
August 12 2017 22:50 GMT
#1940
On August 13 2017 07:40 babysimba wrote:
I bet if Liquid win this 3-0, western audience still think it is better than TI4 because a western team wins.

The reason TI4 was disappointing was because if you have a bad start you basically should GG because TI4 was still played under the 6.7x rules of "you can't come back if you die too much." Today we have comeback mechanics and while they've changed over time (from huge gold bounties for any gank to huge gold bounties for high level heroes like cores) LFY proved that the system can actually work and you can indeed turn it around.

TI4 gave the "why can't I surrender from pubs" crowd ammunition. The last game countered them. No, you can out-play a miserable start.
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