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Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
August 10 2016 22:05 GMT
#1421
Now I understand the term 'caveman dota', these are some sloppy plays.
Getting too old for this..
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
August 10 2016 22:05 GMT
#1422
On August 11 2016 07:03 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:59 Nyan wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:53 Kuroeeah wrote:
i hate the RANDOM ass respawn timer on Roshan from it's 10 minute interval, it's still the only change I hate the fact that icefrog has made.


you know DotA Allstars always showed a global message: Roshan has respawned

the thing is i don't necessarily know if i liked what it accomplisbhed. the team with the lead will still control roshan over the team that doesn't and has to play blind. if roshan spawned in a fixed interval, teams would actually be contest it more whereas the current random roshan favors dire advantage (because of the frequency in which you can check the pit) and heroes with vision (beastmater, clock, chen/ench and invoker) more. it's harder regardless for radiant to control that side of the map, no matter what but honestly I could see myself being wrong here.


it was to balance the fact that radiant was stronger than dire by a statistically significant percentage
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
August 10 2016 22:06 GMT
#1423
On August 11 2016 07:05 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 07:04 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:03 Zea! wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:01 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:01 Zea! wrote:
holy shit, i just realized next series is MVP vs WINGS!!! HYPE, hoping for a techies/pudge/meepo/warlock war

Incoming 2 games of QO's Naga into Wings 2-0 MVP in 2 30 minute games.


Well, QO probably would play naga with a dagger and desolator, so i'd take it

Unfortunately even QO can't turn Naga into a fighter.

MVP should never play with Naga ever. It's just a trap because it plays away from what the team is best with (and yes I know MVP won Naga games)

It might have been a smart plan out of MVP to get QO to spam the hell out of Naga in pubs, so teams spend a ban on it but MVP don't even pull it out often or have it as a strong strategy.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Dysisa
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden2376 Posts
August 10 2016 22:07 GMT
#1424
Come on Newbee, give EU a Shanghai tier humiliation. We need that sort of wakeup call right now.
fuck dota 2 | "i don't like ppd, and i really look forward to one day beating that motherfucker" -Swindlemelonzz, my personal hero
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 22:08:20
August 10 2016 22:08 GMT
#1425
I hate how kuroky still hasn't learned that tombstone's health got nerfed... you can't ever put it in front like that anymore

almost 100% free gold
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 10 2016 22:08 GMT
#1426
Damn Newbee early game is so weak this TI
DV G
Profile Joined September 2012
Argentina2339 Posts
August 10 2016 22:08 GMT
#1427
1-1
Go pro or die trying
Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
August 10 2016 22:08 GMT
#1428
Please please Liquid do not throw away your lead again.
OG | Secret | Liquid | Nigma | Alliance | VP | Fnatic | EG | T1 | LGD
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 10 2016 22:08 GMT
#1429
On August 11 2016 07:05 Zea! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 07:04 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:00 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:58 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:47 bagels21 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:45 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:41 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:40 bagels21 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:37 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:35 lolfail9001 wrote:
[quote]
You forget Wings.

These are the sort of guys who may just wreck EG in the final with first pick bloodseeker sending PPD into BSOD.

i don't believe in wings after their groups and EG has improved to the point where they're just beyond what they showed in starladder with picking stupid shit and drafts.

i mean personally, i'd like it if eg didn't win but this isn't the same eg that crumbled against FRIENDS.


honestly the EG sandbagging or creating a narrative "chip on their shoulders" theory is really making a lot of sense now.

This is basically the same team as last year with an upgrade at the 4

To be honest, none of same EG players have shown same level of play they had at TI5 until match with Newbee.

Zai is a fucking god, though.

It doesn't matter, this TI is just so sloppy in general. The games look wild and some are even exciting but these teams are fucking up a lot, and every team made some baffling errors. I feel ALMOST sure that EHome is stronger than Wings and I'm still not sure if MVP is coin flipping their way to victory.


the meta is such a way now that perfect TI3 style Alliance play is not possible

Here's a secret for people with the rose-tinted glasses.

The larger the skill gap between teams, the better the winning team looks.

Alliance around TI3 looked "perfect" because they had a clean, methodical, efficient style that 14/15 other teams had no idea how to deal with, which let them do everything they wanted to do.

These days the skill level of the previous "dumpster" teams has risen immensely, and there is so competitive exposure to each team, that teams have to be far more adaptable and versatile than Alliance was.

TI5 CDEC disprove your statement.

Okay, should probably clarify "across an entire season".

There are still plenty of one-tournament wonders that can dominate within a week and across 20ish games.

But a team like Alliance that played the same style, more or less, across months all the way to TI and still dominate will likely never happen again.


Secret pre-TI5

And then got crushed in TI5 because they didn't move with the meta.

Which was my point...
Average means I'm better than half of you.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
August 10 2016 22:09 GMT
#1430
matumbagod
Vadrigar
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria2379 Posts
August 10 2016 22:09 GMT
#1431
lol NB forgot there's a morph in the game
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 10 2016 22:09 GMT
#1432
Good news for Liquid: they can push towers this game.

Bad news for Liquid: they will probably throw anyways
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2864 Posts
August 10 2016 22:09 GMT
#1433
Hey look Liquid has a huge kill lead again!

I'm sure we lost.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
August 10 2016 22:09 GMT
#1434
Liquid was even more far ahead last game and threw, but I don't see Newbee winning late
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
phantomlancer23
Profile Joined May 2013
730 Posts
August 10 2016 22:09 GMT
#1435
ok 1-1 i think i m not gonna stay awake for mvp.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
August 10 2016 22:09 GMT
#1436
Man this game is going to have a lot of pukeworthy SD-Morph play huh
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 10 2016 22:09 GMT
#1437
On August 11 2016 07:08 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 07:05 Zea! wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:04 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:00 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:58 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:47 bagels21 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:45 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:41 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:40 bagels21 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:37 Kuroeeah wrote:
[quote]
i don't believe in wings after their groups and EG has improved to the point where they're just beyond what they showed in starladder with picking stupid shit and drafts.

i mean personally, i'd like it if eg didn't win but this isn't the same eg that crumbled against FRIENDS.


honestly the EG sandbagging or creating a narrative "chip on their shoulders" theory is really making a lot of sense now.

This is basically the same team as last year with an upgrade at the 4

To be honest, none of same EG players have shown same level of play they had at TI5 until match with Newbee.

Zai is a fucking god, though.

It doesn't matter, this TI is just so sloppy in general. The games look wild and some are even exciting but these teams are fucking up a lot, and every team made some baffling errors. I feel ALMOST sure that EHome is stronger than Wings and I'm still not sure if MVP is coin flipping their way to victory.


the meta is such a way now that perfect TI3 style Alliance play is not possible

Here's a secret for people with the rose-tinted glasses.

The larger the skill gap between teams, the better the winning team looks.

Alliance around TI3 looked "perfect" because they had a clean, methodical, efficient style that 14/15 other teams had no idea how to deal with, which let them do everything they wanted to do.

These days the skill level of the previous "dumpster" teams has risen immensely, and there is so competitive exposure to each team, that teams have to be far more adaptable and versatile than Alliance was.

TI5 CDEC disprove your statement.

Okay, should probably clarify "across an entire season".

There are still plenty of one-tournament wonders that can dominate within a week and across 20ish games.

But a team like Alliance that played the same style, more or less, across months all the way to TI and still dominate will likely never happen again.


Secret pre-TI5

And then got crushed in TI5 because they didn't move with the meta.

Which was my point...

They got crushed in TI5 because they fell apart in TI5, not because they didn't keep up with meta.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
phantomlancer23
Profile Joined May 2013
730 Posts
August 10 2016 22:10 GMT
#1438
I forgot to say pls chuan gg already.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 10 2016 22:10 GMT
#1439
On August 11 2016 07:09 lolfail9001 wrote:
Good news for Liquid: they can push towers this game.

Bad news for Liquid: they will probably throw anyways

They did not throw last gme, they lost because of the draft and newbee's execution.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
August 10 2016 22:11 GMT
#1440
I think Newbee hurt their brains between games
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