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bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
August 10 2016 21:57 GMT
#1381
On August 11 2016 06:56 sunrazgriz wrote:
liquid limited MC plays, poor MC , i think he is the best player liquid have


Jerax

except when he gets stuck on shit like warlock
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 21:57:38
August 10 2016 21:57 GMT
#1382
On August 11 2016 06:57 nojok wrote:
The undying is good too, the SK undying lane looks strong. I still wish jerax was on a playmaking hero,

Jerax not on playmaking hero means they have lost, tbh. Though SD is actually a playmaker.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 21:58:51
August 10 2016 21:57 GMT
#1383
On August 11 2016 06:35 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:34 dutchfriese wrote:
that game was pleasure to watch. Liquid fucked up, but NB does deserve credit for pulling that off. The Naga/SD and LS/Nyx special tactics were fantastic.

Fantastic from a tactical sense, but I feel like it's not fun to watch.


They were down by like 15k gold, definitely made it a lot more entertaining, normally i hate naga games.. I was thinking about going to the store for a brief moment there, but decided Newbee still had a decent chance. I'm glad that I stuck around.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
August 10 2016 21:57 GMT
#1384
On August 11 2016 06:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:55 FFGenerations wrote:
liquid have the sd sk rana setup combo

Yeah, but they are tilting i am sure.


i didnt watch closely but i dont think the end of that game was tilting really, they had absolutely no chance
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 10 2016 21:57 GMT
#1385
On August 11 2016 06:54 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:53 Kuroeeah wrote:
i hate the RANDOM ass respawn timer on Roshan from it's 10 minute interval, it's still the only change I hate the fact that icefrog has made.

it wasnt great before tho, team in the lead had rosh on lockdown, the new timer allows to ninja rosh and stuff

you're right, i rescind my statement.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 10 2016 21:58 GMT
#1386
On August 11 2016 06:57 FFGenerations wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:55 FFGenerations wrote:
liquid have the sd sk rana setup combo

Yeah, but they are tilting i am sure.


i didnt watch closely but i dont think the end of that game was tilting really, they had absolutely no chance

The midgame was tilt-causing, actually.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2864 Posts
August 10 2016 21:58 GMT
#1387
On August 11 2016 06:51 sacrilegious wrote:
How the fuck did Liquid lose this? It was 12-0 when I afk'd... come back and... Naga?

Well, you see...
On August 11 2016 06:42 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:41 Neazbo wrote:
We're possibly one game away from OG and Liquid not making top 8, the fuck has happened this TI?

You can blame any of the following:
Poll: What went wrong?

Anime (18)
 
60%

doto things (10)
 
33%

Unerdogs overperformed (1)
 
3%

meta (1)
 
3%

30 total votes

Your vote: What went wrong?

(Vote): Anime
(Vote): doto things
(Vote): Unerdogs overperformed
(Vote): meta


Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
August 10 2016 21:58 GMT
#1388
Not sold on the Chen pick. Think there were quite a few safer more stable choices

maybe Chuan goes beast mode I guess
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 10 2016 21:58 GMT
#1389
On August 11 2016 06:47 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:45 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:41 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:40 bagels21 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:37 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:35 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:34 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:31 Zea! wrote:
Newbee looks amazing tbh, this gives more value to EG's victory

I think Ehome and EG are the strongest teams right now, i feel pretty sure the winner of that series will just win ti.

You forget Wings.

These are the sort of guys who may just wreck EG in the final with first pick bloodseeker sending PPD into BSOD.

i don't believe in wings after their groups and EG has improved to the point where they're just beyond what they showed in starladder with picking stupid shit and drafts.

i mean personally, i'd like it if eg didn't win but this isn't the same eg that crumbled against FRIENDS.


honestly the EG sandbagging or creating a narrative "chip on their shoulders" theory is really making a lot of sense now.

This is basically the same team as last year with an upgrade at the 4

To be honest, none of same EG players have shown same level of play they had at TI5 until match with Newbee.

Zai is a fucking god, though.

It doesn't matter, this TI is just so sloppy in general. The games look wild and some are even exciting but these teams are fucking up a lot, and every team made some baffling errors. I feel ALMOST sure that EHome is stronger than Wings and I'm still not sure if MVP is coin flipping their way to victory.


the meta is such a way now that perfect TI3 style Alliance play is not possible

Here's a secret for people with the rose-tinted glasses.

The larger the skill gap between teams, the better the winning team looks.

Alliance around TI3 looked "perfect" because they had a clean, methodical, efficient style that 14/15 other teams had no idea how to deal with, which let them do everything they wanted to do.

These days the skill level of the previous "dumpster" teams has risen immensely, and there is so competitive exposure to each team, that teams have to be far more adaptable and versatile than Alliance was.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
August 10 2016 21:59 GMT
#1390
On August 11 2016 06:53 Kuroeeah wrote:
i hate the RANDOM ass respawn timer on Roshan from it's 10 minute interval, it's still the only change I hate the fact that icefrog has made.


you know DotA Allstars always showed a global message: Roshan has respawned
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babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 10 2016 21:59 GMT
#1391
Alright satyr just won kpii his lane
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 10 2016 22:00 GMT
#1392
On August 11 2016 06:57 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:57 nojok wrote:
The undying is good too, the SK undying lane looks strong. I still wish jerax was on a playmaking hero,

Jerax not on playmaking hero means they have lost, tbh. Though SD is actually a playmaker.

SD setups stuff, he initiates the play but does not really make it the way of ES, rubick, lion etc
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 10 2016 22:00 GMT
#1393
HADOUKEN
The Real Power~
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
August 10 2016 22:00 GMT
#1394
question - can you sk spike or force staff out of disrupters wall?
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 10 2016 22:00 GMT
#1395
On August 11 2016 06:58 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:47 bagels21 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:45 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:41 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:40 bagels21 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:37 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:35 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:34 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:31 Zea! wrote:
Newbee looks amazing tbh, this gives more value to EG's victory

I think Ehome and EG are the strongest teams right now, i feel pretty sure the winner of that series will just win ti.

You forget Wings.

These are the sort of guys who may just wreck EG in the final with first pick bloodseeker sending PPD into BSOD.

i don't believe in wings after their groups and EG has improved to the point where they're just beyond what they showed in starladder with picking stupid shit and drafts.

i mean personally, i'd like it if eg didn't win but this isn't the same eg that crumbled against FRIENDS.


honestly the EG sandbagging or creating a narrative "chip on their shoulders" theory is really making a lot of sense now.

This is basically the same team as last year with an upgrade at the 4

To be honest, none of same EG players have shown same level of play they had at TI5 until match with Newbee.

Zai is a fucking god, though.

It doesn't matter, this TI is just so sloppy in general. The games look wild and some are even exciting but these teams are fucking up a lot, and every team made some baffling errors. I feel ALMOST sure that EHome is stronger than Wings and I'm still not sure if MVP is coin flipping their way to victory.


the meta is such a way now that perfect TI3 style Alliance play is not possible

Here's a secret for people with the rose-tinted glasses.

The larger the skill gap between teams, the better the winning team looks.

Alliance around TI3 looked "perfect" because they had a clean, methodical, efficient style that 14/15 other teams had no idea how to deal with, which let them do everything they wanted to do.

These days the skill level of the previous "dumpster" teams has risen immensely, and there is so competitive exposure to each team, that teams have to be far more adaptable and versatile than Alliance was.

TI5 CDEC disprove your statement.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Vadrigar
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria2379 Posts
August 10 2016 22:00 GMT
#1396
nerf satyr
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 10 2016 22:00 GMT
#1397
On August 11 2016 07:00 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:57 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:57 nojok wrote:
The undying is good too, the SK undying lane looks strong. I still wish jerax was on a playmaking hero,

Jerax not on playmaking hero means they have lost, tbh. Though SD is actually a playmaker.

SD setups stuff, he initiates the play but does not really make it the way of ES, rubick, lion etc

DJ vs Alliance for reference.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
August 10 2016 22:00 GMT
#1398
On August 11 2016 07:00 FFGenerations wrote:
question - can you sk spike or force staff out of disrupters wall?


I don't think so.
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 22:01:15
August 10 2016 22:01 GMT
#1399
I can't wait for someone to pick silencer against SK and ruin him

maybe jimmy will be brave enough to do so
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
August 10 2016 22:01 GMT
#1400
That value point in adaptative strike
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
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