On August 11 2016 06:40 bagels21 wrote:
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honestly the EG sandbagging or creating a narrative "chip on their shoulders" theory is really making a lot of sense now.

This is basically the same team as last year with an upgrade at the 4

To be honest, none of same EG players have shown same level of play they had at TI5 until match with Newbee.

Zai is a fucking god, though.

It doesn't matter, this TI is just so sloppy in general. The games look wild and some are even exciting but these teams are fucking up a lot, and every team made some baffling errors. I feel ALMOST sure that EHome is stronger than Wings and I'm still not sure if MVP is coin flipping their way to victory.

the meta is such a way now that perfect TI3 style Alliance play is not possible

Here's a secret for people with the rose-tinted glasses.

The larger the skill gap between teams, the better the winning team looks.

Alliance around TI3 looked "perfect" because they had a clean, methodical, efficient style that 14/15 other teams had no idea how to deal with, which let them do everything they wanted to do.

These days the skill level of the previous "dumpster" teams has risen immensely, and there is so competitive exposure to each team, that teams have to be far more adaptable and versatile than Alliance was.

TI5 CDEC disprove your statement.

Okay, should probably clarify "across an entire season".

There are still plenty of one-tournament wonders that can dominate within a week and across 20ish games.

But a team like Alliance that played the same style, more or less, across months all the way to TI and still dominate will likely never happen again.

Secret pre-TI5

And then got crushed in TI5 because they didn't move with the meta.

Which was my point...

They got crushed in TI5 because they fell apart in TI5, not because they didn't keep up with meta.

I agree, Secret played that meta really well, it's just the team fell apart and S4 missed all his ults on QoP that made them fail that year. This year's Secret lost because they devolved into becoming Mineski.

FueledUpAndReadyToGo

Netherlands30548 Posts

August 10 2016 22:12 GMT

#1446

Disruptor is getting fed on

dutchfriese

2554 Posts

August 10 2016 22:12 GMT

#1447

here's an idea, ban sand king

lolfail9001

Russian Federation40190 Posts

August 10 2016 22:12 GMT

#1448

On August 11 2016 07:12 dutchfriese wrote:
here's an idea, ban sand king

Works well against Navi, i must say.

uriel-

Singapore1867 Posts

August 10 2016 22:13 GMT

#1449

Yeah this one isn't getting turned around

GOHF

United States1864 Posts

August 10 2016 22:13 GMT

#1450

Hao does not have a big black penis.

TheTenthDoc

United States9561 Posts

August 10 2016 22:13 GMT

#1451

We've got...braaaaain problems, oh yeah
Braaaain problems, sure thing
Braaaain problems but it's all gonna be fine

Saechiis

Netherlands4989 Posts

August 10 2016 22:13 GMT

#1452

Don't think they're going to throw this, their lategame is great, Newbee getting outplayed.

lolfail9001

Russian Federation40190 Posts

August 10 2016 22:13 GMT

#1453

Well, this should be unthrowable at this point.

PhoenixVoid

Canada32747 Posts

August 10 2016 22:14 GMT

#1454

It's going to require some monumental levels of throw for Liquid to lose this.

Achaian

United States3369 Posts

August 10 2016 22:14 GMT

#1455

On August 11 2016 07:12 Kuroeeah wrote:

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does no one remember when secret got figured out in the upper bracket by a chinese team with SD-Mirana destroying zai's offlane bristle

secret got figured out and failed to adapt

nojok

France15846 Posts

August 10 2016 22:14 GMT

#1456

Assuming naga banned again, I expect alche from newbee next game.