EPT[NanYang Season 2] Championship Sunday - Page 3
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BoesFX
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On July 10 2016 20:54 Diavlo wrote: Newbee kinda looks like EG with Arteezy, they manage to go deep in tournaments on talent alone but seem lost against teams who have the meta down or a specific style like old ehome, MVP and now wings. You don't go into a tournament without a plan for Newbee, if you have aspirations of winning. When the target is on your back, it isn't a good thing. Though since this was a 5 Chinese team tournament, this is really more about the Chinese Meta rather than who's significantly better. Newbee will be better in an International setting, as Wings will have harder time hitting everything early against non-Chinese teams. (The top Chinese teams tend to play late, whereas Wings goes for early meme-push stuff a lot.) | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
Also, I think Wings doesn't have any experience against this type of play from Newbee. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
Edit: Congrats to Newbee. They survived the Meme-machine that is Wings. | ||
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goody153
44274 Posts
newbeeeeee! | ||
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MetalMercury
United States1161 Posts
On July 10 2016 20:51 BoesFX wrote: Can't cheese the cheese master. Whoops. Guess you can! | ||
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goody153
44274 Posts
On July 10 2016 21:07 Taf the Ghost wrote: Wisp + Dazzle + Glass Cannon Hero can really do nasty things to the other team. I think it was MVP that I first saw do that. Though they normally put Wisp with Bristle. Also, I think Wings doesn't have any experience against this type of play from Newbee. Isn't this what newbee tend to do alot, memepushing and stuff. | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
gg newbee | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On July 10 2016 21:11 goody153 wrote: Isn't this what newbee tend to do alot, memepushing and stuff. Wings is the meme-pusher. Newbee does run push-strats, but their thing is normally really aggressive early rotations (3-5 minutes), then a really defensive mid-game built upon that early lead. Wings 1st banned Lion all 5 games for a reason, as it's Newbee's best hero. But the reason Wings' meme-push has done so well for them lately is most of China has had to work to beat LGD & Newbee. The way to do that is to hit a peak early without needing hard snowball heroes. Which is actually what Newbee did to Wings in Game 5. (Dazzle + Wisp is online by 8ish minutes; at 15 minutes, Huskar can take Rax if allowed. Drow was probably as much of a feint as core to the strategy. Though credit to Hao for turning Drow into a Weaver counter. Never seen that work well before.) | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On July 10 2016 21:40 opterown wrote: yay finally another lan More like "Sort of LAN". They were all on-location, but they weren't actually in an arena of any type. | ||
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goody153
44274 Posts
On July 10 2016 21:20 Taf the Ghost wrote: Wings is the meme-pusher. Newbee does run push-strats, but their thing is normally really aggressive early rotations (3-5 minutes), then a really defensive mid-game built upon that early lead. Wings 1st banned Lion all 5 games for a reason, as it's Newbee's best hero. But the reason Wings' meme-push has done so well for them lately is most of China has had to work to beat LGD & Newbee. The way to do that is to hit a peak early without needing hard snowball heroes. Which is actually what Newbee did to Wings in Game 5. (Dazzle + Wisp is online by 8ish minutes; at 15 minutes, Huskar can take Rax if allowed. Drow was probably as much of a feint as core to the strategy. Though credit to Hao for turning Drow into a Weaver counter. Never seen that work well before.) ah makes sense well tbh i do not see in any situation on weaver possibly ever beating huskar or drow especially with wsp/dazzle | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
I looked at the ticket sales added to prize money, missing EG Secret, no arena and the whole tournament appears more like a joke to the uneducated. | ||
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