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BoesFX
Profile Joined April 2013
1451 Posts
July 10 2016 11:51 GMT
#41
Can't cheese the cheese master.
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-10 11:54:34
July 10 2016 11:54 GMT
#42
Newbee kinda looks like EG with Arteezy, they manage to go deep in tournaments on talent alone but seem lost against teams who have the meta down or a specific style like old ehome, MVP and now wings.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 10 2016 12:02 GMT
#43
On July 10 2016 20:54 Diavlo wrote:
Newbee kinda looks like EG with Arteezy, they manage to go deep in tournaments on talent alone but seem lost against teams who have the meta down or a specific style like old ehome, MVP and now wings.


You don't go into a tournament without a plan for Newbee, if you have aspirations of winning. When the target is on your back, it isn't a good thing.

Though since this was a 5 Chinese team tournament, this is really more about the Chinese Meta rather than who's significantly better. Newbee will be better in an International setting, as Wings will have harder time hitting everything early against non-Chinese teams. (The top Chinese teams tend to play late, whereas Wings goes for early meme-push stuff a lot.)
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 10 2016 12:07 GMT
#44
Wisp + Dazzle + Glass Cannon Hero can really do nasty things to the other team. I think it was MVP that I first saw do that. Though they normally put Wisp with Bristle.

Also, I think Wings doesn't have any experience against this type of play from Newbee.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-10 12:10:39
July 10 2016 12:09 GMT
#45
Relocate a Dazzle to Shallow Grave. That's nasty.


Edit: Congrats to Newbee. They survived the Meme-machine that is Wings.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44163 Posts
July 10 2016 12:10 GMT
#46
oh yeeeeeeeeeeeeeees

newbeeeeee!
this is a quote
MetalMercury
Profile Joined January 2015
United States1161 Posts
July 10 2016 12:10 GMT
#47
On July 10 2016 20:51 BoesFX wrote:
Can't cheese the cheese master.


Whoops. Guess you can!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44163 Posts
July 10 2016 12:11 GMT
#48
On July 10 2016 21:07 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Wisp + Dazzle + Glass Cannon Hero can really do nasty things to the other team. I think it was MVP that I first saw do that. Though they normally put Wisp with Bristle.

Also, I think Wings doesn't have any experience against this type of play from Newbee.

Isn't this what newbee tend to do alot, memepushing and stuff.
this is a quote
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
July 10 2016 12:11 GMT
#49
cool games overall and very interesting drafts
gg newbee
FTD
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 10 2016 12:20 GMT
#50
On July 10 2016 21:11 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2016 21:07 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Wisp + Dazzle + Glass Cannon Hero can really do nasty things to the other team. I think it was MVP that I first saw do that. Though they normally put Wisp with Bristle.

Also, I think Wings doesn't have any experience against this type of play from Newbee.

Isn't this what newbee tend to do alot, memepushing and stuff.


Wings is the meme-pusher. Newbee does run push-strats, but their thing is normally really aggressive early rotations (3-5 minutes), then a really defensive mid-game built upon that early lead. Wings 1st banned Lion all 5 games for a reason, as it's Newbee's best hero.

But the reason Wings' meme-push has done so well for them lately is most of China has had to work to beat LGD & Newbee. The way to do that is to hit a peak early without needing hard snowball heroes. Which is actually what Newbee did to Wings in Game 5. (Dazzle + Wisp is online by 8ish minutes; at 15 minutes, Huskar can take Rax if allowed. Drow was probably as much of a feint as core to the strategy. Though credit to Hao for turning Drow into a Weaver counter. Never seen that work well before.)
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
July 10 2016 12:40 GMT
#51
Impressive game 5 by Newbee, slept through the rest of the series. I hope Wings can play well next time they face the world, it's a cool team of youngsters, hopefully they don't crash again.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 10 2016 12:40 GMT
#52
yay finally another lan
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 10 2016 13:11 GMT
#53
On July 10 2016 21:40 opterown wrote:
yay finally another lan


More like "Sort of LAN". They were all on-location, but they weren't actually in an arena of any type.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44163 Posts
July 10 2016 14:42 GMT
#54
On July 10 2016 21:20 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2016 21:11 goody153 wrote:
On July 10 2016 21:07 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Wisp + Dazzle + Glass Cannon Hero can really do nasty things to the other team. I think it was MVP that I first saw do that. Though they normally put Wisp with Bristle.

Also, I think Wings doesn't have any experience against this type of play from Newbee.

Isn't this what newbee tend to do alot, memepushing and stuff.


Wings is the meme-pusher. Newbee does run push-strats, but their thing is normally really aggressive early rotations (3-5 minutes), then a really defensive mid-game built upon that early lead. Wings 1st banned Lion all 5 games for a reason, as it's Newbee's best hero.

But the reason Wings' meme-push has done so well for them lately is most of China has had to work to beat LGD & Newbee. The way to do that is to hit a peak early without needing hard snowball heroes. Which is actually what Newbee did to Wings in Game 5. (Dazzle + Wisp is online by 8ish minutes; at 15 minutes, Huskar can take Rax if allowed. Drow was probably as much of a feint as core to the strategy. Though credit to Hao for turning Drow into a Weaver counter. Never seen that work well before.)

ah makes sense

well tbh i do not see in any situation on weaver possibly ever beating huskar or drow especially with wsp/dazzle
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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
July 10 2016 20:47 GMT
#55
Any games worth watching + vods?
I looked at the ticket sales added to prize money, missing EG Secret, no arena and the whole tournament appears more like a joke to the uneducated.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
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