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apes
Profile Joined October 2011
United States826 Posts
May 15 2016 15:39 GMT
#6341
happy for both of these teams / whoever wins. i think liquid is just charging up for the ultimate choke though.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 15 2016 15:40 GMT
#6342
On May 16 2016 00:39 apes wrote:
happy for both of these teams / whoever wins. i think liquid is just charging up for the ultimate choke though.

Not really, they are playing better than in any of their finals thus far.

Maybe... Heen is the key?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
piumosso
Profile Joined September 2015
Indonesia5 Posts
May 15 2016 15:40 GMT
#6343
On May 16 2016 00:37 Deckard_Cain wrote:
A bit offtopic but maybe someone could help.
I renewed my pc and now I no longer can watch the streams directly on Liquiddota.com. On twitch.tv it works. I use Firefox. Any ideas?


adblock mybe?
da f w\ me
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44163 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-15 15:40:55
May 15 2016 15:40 GMT
#6344
On May 16 2016 00:39 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2016 00:38 goody153 wrote:
On May 16 2016 00:36 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 16 2016 00:36 goody153 wrote:
On May 16 2016 00:35 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 16 2016 00:35 nojok wrote:
On May 16 2016 00:34 Dracolich70 wrote:
Newbee gonna retract to Spectre pick, and TL will be prepared for it.

Gyro pick you mean, this guy clears hordes like nobody.

Uhhh, gyro against double necros does not work.

it does with BkB

as long as he's not underfarmed

Necros now crit.

you forgot that those units are gonna melt as long as gyro is not underfarmed

Double necro comes at 9k/7k networth on Lycan/BM.

A 9k networth gyro DIES to double necro.

Yeah you are assuming that gyro doesn't have allies and bm+lycan is allowed to hit him freely lol obviously in a strictly 1v2 situation he's gonna die
this is a quote
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
May 15 2016 15:40 GMT
#6345
On May 16 2016 00:37 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2016 00:36 Gear 3rd wrote:
Matumbamans Lycan is so freaking good. Seriously I feel this is the best lycan i have seen since forever, meaning its surpassing Arteezys lycan by a mile actually! Incredible!
GOO LIQUIIIID

calm down lol

that was more about BM with the great initiations rather than lycan playing 1v9

Yeah, this game was definitely won by BM and Riki disrupting teamfights and preventing Newbee from getting their ults off, but Mutambaman played really well. Top of net worth despite getting dual laned, and he played great in fights.
Deckard_Cain
Profile Joined February 2012
493 Posts
May 15 2016 15:41 GMT
#6346
On May 16 2016 00:40 piumosso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2016 00:37 Deckard_Cain wrote:
A bit offtopic but maybe someone could help.
I renewed my pc and now I no longer can watch the streams directly on Liquiddota.com. On twitch.tv it works. I use Firefox. Any ideas?


adblock mybe?

It is not, but thank you.
love can change what we want
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 15 2016 15:41 GMT
#6347
On May 16 2016 00:40 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2016 00:39 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 16 2016 00:38 goody153 wrote:
On May 16 2016 00:36 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 16 2016 00:36 goody153 wrote:
On May 16 2016 00:35 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 16 2016 00:35 nojok wrote:
On May 16 2016 00:34 Dracolich70 wrote:
Newbee gonna retract to Spectre pick, and TL will be prepared for it.

Gyro pick you mean, this guy clears hordes like nobody.

Uhhh, gyro against double necros does not work.

it does with BkB

as long as he's not underfarmed

Necros now crit.

you forgot that those units are gonna melt as long as gyro is not underfarmed

Double necro comes at 9k/7k networth on Lycan/BM.

A 9k networth gyro DIES to double necro.

Yeah you are assuming that gyro doesn't have allies and bm+lycan is allowed to hit him freely lol obviously in a strictly 1v2 situation he's gonna die

The problem is that BM+Lycan don't even need to hit him, Lycan can do so while chasing after someone else, only necros are required.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44163 Posts
May 15 2016 15:41 GMT
#6348
On May 16 2016 00:40 SFDuality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2016 00:37 goody153 wrote:
On May 16 2016 00:36 Gear 3rd wrote:
Matumbamans Lycan is so freaking good. Seriously I feel this is the best lycan i have seen since forever, meaning its surpassing Arteezys lycan by a mile actually! Incredible!
GOO LIQUIIIID

calm down lol

that was more about BM with the great initiations rather than lycan playing 1v9

Yeah, this game was definitely won by BM and Riki disrupting teamfights and preventing Newbee from getting their ults off, but Mutambaman played really well. Top of net worth despite getting dual laned, and he played great in fights.

Yeah he played well but as you said this was more about BM+riki pickoffs
this is a quote
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-15 15:42:15
May 15 2016 15:41 GMT
#6349
wtf was kpii doing in that fight?

literally walked around then got nuked

if either chrono or egg was used then that fight wouldn't being a 1-5
Rillanon.au
apes
Profile Joined October 2011
United States826 Posts
May 15 2016 15:41 GMT
#6350
On May 16 2016 00:40 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2016 00:39 apes wrote:
happy for both of these teams / whoever wins. i think liquid is just charging up for the ultimate choke though.

Not really, they are playing better than in any of their finals thus far.

Maybe... Heen is the key?


theyre gonna get match point then the wheels will fall off!
mostly joking, i agree, they look really strong.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44163 Posts
May 15 2016 15:42 GMT
#6351
On May 16 2016 00:41 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2016 00:40 goody153 wrote:
On May 16 2016 00:39 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 16 2016 00:38 goody153 wrote:
On May 16 2016 00:36 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 16 2016 00:36 goody153 wrote:
On May 16 2016 00:35 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 16 2016 00:35 nojok wrote:
On May 16 2016 00:34 Dracolich70 wrote:
Newbee gonna retract to Spectre pick, and TL will be prepared for it.

Gyro pick you mean, this guy clears hordes like nobody.

Uhhh, gyro against double necros does not work.

it does with BkB

as long as he's not underfarmed

Necros now crit.

you forgot that those units are gonna melt as long as gyro is not underfarmed

Double necro comes at 9k/7k networth on Lycan/BM.

A 9k networth gyro DIES to double necro.

Yeah you are assuming that gyro doesn't have allies and bm+lycan is allowed to hit him freely lol obviously in a strictly 1v2 situation he's gonna die

The problem is that BM+Lycan don't even need to hit him, Lycan can do so while chasing after someone else, only necros are required.

That's also assuming the entire team runs away from gyro and that there isn't counter intiation and stuff.
this is a quote
turpentine
Profile Joined November 2015
1624 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-15 15:42:47
May 15 2016 15:42 GMT
#6352
On May 16 2016 00:38 Wineandbread wrote:
http://videogami.tv/h/VJu1DtZfZ/

This is the game winning teamfight

kp time walks away from the fight as soon as it begins, no wonder he didn't get to use chrono lol

Also I think that smoke cloud by kky was really well palced


lol, void also got hit by the roar damage aoe when mindcontrol roared the phoenix, kpii got bullied so bad that fight

Book of Funn1k, 3:22 "YOU RUINED MY LIFE AND NOW YOU TALK ABOUT 0-7 TUSK?? I would so fuckin Walrus Punch you that you will get stunned for 1 year."
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-15 15:44:01
May 15 2016 15:43 GMT
#6353
On May 16 2016 00:41 haduken wrote:
wtf was kpii doing in that fight?

literally walked around then got nuked

if either chrono or egg was used then that fight wouldn't being a 1-5


If he didn't timewalk out immediately he would've been silenced/killed instantly (even if the Egg goes off), when he was out of positions he couldn't cast a Chrono, and then he just died.

The fight wasn't as straightforward at all, there were no super dumb mistakes by Newbee, maybe some split second sub-optimal decisions at worst.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44163 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-15 15:44:14
May 15 2016 15:43 GMT
#6354
On May 16 2016 00:41 haduken wrote:
wtf was kpii doing in that fight?

literally walked around then got nuked

if either chrono or egg was used then that fight wouldn't being a 1-5

i assume you meant the fight where no ults got out from newbee (apart from DK ult)

Well they looked like confused and phoenix got roared by BM in the middle of the fight when he didn't use egg. It looked like newbee was in a really awkward position with entire TL spreadout
this is a quote
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 15 2016 15:44 GMT
#6355
On May 16 2016 00:43 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2016 00:41 haduken wrote:
wtf was kpii doing in that fight?

literally walked around then got nuked

if either chrono or egg was used then that fight wouldn't being a 1-5


If he didn't timewalk out immediately he would've been silenced/killed instantly (even if the Egg goes off), when he was out of positions he couldn't cast a Chrono, and then he just died.

The battle wasn't as straightforward at all, there were no super dumb mistakes by Newbee, maybe some split second sub-optimal decisions at worst.

Basically the only sub optimal decision was going up high ground while being seen.

So... the only reason this whole fight happened.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 15 2016 15:44 GMT
#6356
On May 16 2016 00:41 haduken wrote:
wtf was kpii doing in that fight?

literally walked around then got nuked

if either chrono or egg was used then that fight wouldn't being a 1-5


Getting the Jump on Phoenix & Void was the entire focus of the game. Both got jumped, Liquid wipe Newbee and take 2 towers. Kpii does Kpii things and they push high-ground.
turpentine
Profile Joined November 2015
1624 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-15 15:44:49
May 15 2016 15:44 GMT
#6357
That fight was also mindcontrol abusing their vision advantage really well since he was sitting behind the lane treeline where newbee had no vision, and phoenix and void just run into him because they're being chased
Book of Funn1k, 3:22 "YOU RUINED MY LIFE AND NOW YOU TALK ABOUT 0-7 TUSK?? I would so fuckin Walrus Punch you that you will get stunned for 1 year."
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 15 2016 15:44 GMT
#6358
I hope Newbee just ban BM and move with it.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
1godless
Profile Joined August 2011
United States247 Posts
May 15 2016 15:44 GMT
#6359
I was watching and doing chores at the same time. Walked away to the other room and thought that liquid had lost when the game ended so early and they were behind. Hells yeah was I surprised and pleased.

Stylistically I love liquids play this patch. It's fun and fast, it doesn't go late and they have no mercy
The enemy's throne is down
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
May 15 2016 15:45 GMT
#6360
On May 16 2016 00:34 DucK- wrote:
Lol. I have no idea how Liquid won. I don't understand this draft. Classic Liquid. It's like at some point in game regardless if they're losing, they just go "hey guy it's time to win". Then suddenly the teamwipes...


it's pure damage. liquid run these lineups that's super amped in the damage yet light on the control. Their entire game only had rubik lift and beasmaster roar for set up, the rest is all into damage and straight up out-dps the enemy team.

the void is food if you roar on him and set double necro to burn his mana, the phoenix can be controlled by the cloud, and even if he uses egg with innerbeast you can wrek the egg. Now there's really no one to protect the squishy lion, and PL does not do enough damage, and liquid just run around DK (who also doesn't output enough damage)

All in all the only thing that stops liquid from running amok is some kind of aoe control, but liquid was able to disable them
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