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babysimba
10466 Posts
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On May 12 2016 22:44 Azarkon wrote: They were never that ahead of top Western teams. Look at Secret's second game against them; look at PPD's. Both teams were already starting to win them in the middle game, but had issues late game. Then OG came in, did the same, and finish it. Newbee might have been way above other Chinese teams but not Western teams. Doesn't matter. Thy still raped both secret and EG 2-0 ..They are atleast above your so called top western teams secret and EG. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On May 12 2016 22:45 babysimba wrote: Yet your dear top western team can't even maintain a streak against chinese in Shanghai major when all of them are in shit form So when was the last time Chinese teams did? Wait, never. Alliance did though for all of 2013. | ||
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
On May 12 2016 22:44 lolfail9001 wrote: They also played 2 teams that hasn't found their stride after roster changes, a NA team, and a team taht didn't qualify for Manila. They played nine games against teams they never played with their current roster and 20 against teams they play fairly regularly. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On May 12 2016 22:46 Kamisamanachi wrote: Doesn't matter. Thy still raped both secret and EG 2-0 ..They are atleast above your so called top western teams secret and EG. Everyone knows that the top team is a changing title depending on who is win streaking for that tournament =D | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 12 2016 22:47 Dracolich70 wrote: They also played 2 teams that hasn't found their stride after roster changes, a NA team, and a team taht didn't qualify for Manila. If you start to look at quality of teams then this whole streak can be ignored, since to my knowledge there are almost no games against VG.R in Newbee's streak either. | ||
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ForTehDarkseid
8139 Posts
On May 12 2016 22:46 Azarkon wrote: So when was the last time Chinese teams did? Wait, never. Alliance did though for all of 2013. TI2 LGD&iG, 2014 DK. West vs East currently shouldn't be even up for debate after Wings bodied top Western team 3-0 in a ESL finals after losing to them 0-2 in groups. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
Natus Vincere for the first. PPD's team for the second. No Chinese team has ever had a long win period against top Western teams. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 12 2016 22:50 Azarkon wrote: Natus Vincere for the first. PPD's team for the second. No Chinese team has ever had a long win period against top Western teams. Neither did Western, if you look at dates. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On May 12 2016 22:51 lolfail9001 wrote: Neither did Western, if you look at dates. Alliance had 28 wins against Chinese teams, I believe, before their first lost game. | ||
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
On May 12 2016 22:48 lolfail9001 wrote: Don't think it should be ignored, but it should be evaluated in the right light. You know, nuance, which most people can't see.If you start to look at quality of teams then this whole streak can be ignored, since to my knowledge there are almost no games against VG.R in Newbee's streak either. | ||
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Racket
3023 Posts
On May 12 2016 22:45 Dysisa wrote: Thanks guys, and damn that's really impressive. Newbee definitely ain't shit. Props to OG, a team people felt didn't deserve a Manila invite, for being the ones to end that streak.  Everyone deserves an invite in fans eyes, it only depends on how far in the past you go to justify it. Justifying it with achievement post invites is like winning the lottery with tomorrow's newspaper. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 12 2016 22:52 Azarkon wrote: Alliance had 28 wins against Chinese teams, I believe, before their first lost game. Yeah, now name these tournaments. | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
Wew | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 12 2016 22:53 Kamisamanachi wrote: When my so beloved western teams are getting raped left right and center by the only chinese team in a tournament , I try to look for other excuses like comparing win streaks for teams from 2 years ago. Wew It's break anyways and we know that Newbee will not give up bird this time. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On May 12 2016 22:53 Kamisamanachi wrote: When my so beloved western teams are getting raped left right and center by the only chinese team in a tournament , I try to look for other excuses like comparing win streaks for teams from 2 years ago. Wew You might think it's just an excuse, but it is an important fact that you need to pay attention to. Indeed, this is the sort of fact that gives me the belief that the West is the best region, on average, even when they lose an international. | ||
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babysimba
10466 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 12 2016 22:54 babysimba wrote: He only cherry picks results to support his case just like politicians Azarkon Sanders | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
feel the kon | ||
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wims80
1892 Posts
My gut feeling tells me that Azarkon is more of a Trump guy than a Sanders fan | ||
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