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On May 11 2016 01:58 Dracolich70 wrote:It's like 2½ years ago, they got thrashed with it, after they said they didn't fear it. About time they did it, perhaps they needed the Koreans to do it first.
To be fair, kaka is like the only good chinese wisp player. The rest of the wisps are lacking something
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On May 11 2016 01:58 ForTehDarkseid wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2016 01:54 shad2810 wrote: TI4 - Wins money TI5 - Time to waste money on rpg TI6 - no money, time to play dota back again kaka, kpII and chuan don't have ti4 money though Also Hao quit the team pretty early in the "waste money on RPG" phase because of it.
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Ok looks like we are going to see the Secret vs EG game after all.The question is do we want to given the state that both teams are right now?
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On May 11 2016 01:58 ForTehDarkseid wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2016 01:54 shad2810 wrote: TI4 - Wins money TI5 - Time to waste money on rpg TI6 - no money, time to play dota back again kaka, kpII and chuan don't have ti4 money though
ChuaN has TI2 money. That said, these 3 were not on Newbee either.
And it was Mu who spent the most time.
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On May 11 2016 02:00 zolasell wrote: Ok looks like we are going to see the Secret vs EG game after all.The question is do we want to given the state that both teams are right now?
Not over yet. EG going to break the streak, just sit back and enjoy
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Seems like Sheever doesn't have much of a place on the panel with redeye hosting tbh
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On May 11 2016 01:59 LennX wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2016 01:58 Dracolich70 wrote:On May 11 2016 01:56 Dysisa wrote: China can't play Wisp, they said. It's like 2½ years ago, they got thrashed with it, after they said they didn't fear it. About time they did it, perhaps they needed the Koreans to do it first. To be fair, kaka is like the only good chinese wisp player. The rest of the wisps are lacking something
I would argue that mmy is up there too.
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On May 11 2016 02:00 Danzo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2016 02:00 zolasell wrote: Ok looks like we are going to see the Secret vs EG game after all.The question is do we want to given the state that both teams are right now?
Not over yet. EG going to break the streak, just sit back and enjoy 
After this thrashing? Maybe if they get an amazing draft, but looking at the last one, it doesn't seem likely.
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On May 11 2016 02:00 zolasell wrote: Ok looks like we are going to see the Secret vs EG game after all.The question is do we want to given the state that both teams are right now?
Well we have el classico -> el trashico. What are we gonna call EG vs Secret in half a year?
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I remember they actually got paid to advertise playing mmorpg at 1 point.
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I wasn't watching, how did this game go?
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Now that i think about it evil geniouses vs team secret would make a great spy film.
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Mu was like the only one of newbee still trying to play doto after TI4.
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On May 11 2016 01:59 LennX wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2016 01:58 Dracolich70 wrote:On May 11 2016 01:56 Dysisa wrote: China can't play Wisp, they said. It's like 2½ years ago, they got thrashed with it, after they said they didn't fear it. About time they did it, perhaps they needed the Koreans to do it first. To be fair, kaka is like the only good chinese wisp player. The rest of the wisps are lacking something
Think mmy and fy are fairly good too. Chuan as well.
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On May 11 2016 01:58 Taf the Ghost wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2016 01:57 FreakyDroid wrote:On May 11 2016 01:55 Taf the Ghost wrote:On May 11 2016 01:51 FreakyDroid wrote:On May 11 2016 01:44 Taf the Ghost wrote:On May 11 2016 01:41 FreakyDroid wrote: PPD needs to start drafting tankier supports for him, or at least ones that are more useful. Newbee is using a version of what Secret & Liquid used on EG at Shanghai. They got pretty much all of the heroes they wanted for it. But Lion is really key to making it work (since Finger is always going to get you a kill). This is wholly on Peter not being prepared for this strategy. It's how everyone has adapted to their farming efficiency. I kind of agree but I'm not sure if Lion is the key, I think its more about Chuan playing way better than PPD and his positioning is just impeccable. PPD simply plays on a level way below that of Chuan and has a hero that is terrible against all of NB's lineup, so it just looks like is absolutely useless, bar his mana aura. The only saving grace EG has is getting this game to ultra late game when ET can wreck Spectre's HP with a good ulty. Newbee showed a version of this also during the Chinese Qualifiers, so the fact that PPD wasn't prepared for it is the biggest issue. Granted, part of the "EG wins 2-1" issue is that Peter forces you to have a plan for them. It feels like he gives away too many games as a result, but, hey, they tend to win more series than they lose. I get that, but he can do the same by picking another hero for him, I think anything other than CM can work better than this. He just feeds way too many kills and does nothing. I'd have love the Treant, but I don't think it was going to help. The CM might also been because ppd realized he'd screwed up.
The way I see it, to beat NB teams need to pick better tempo/lane controlling heroes, Secret almost did it in the 2nd game but RTZ+EE throws were just too stronk. So I think Secret has the idea how to do it, but lacks the execution in late game. EG on the other hand seem a bit better in late game executions but their draft is lacking.
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On May 11 2016 02:01 CruelZeratul wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2016 02:00 Danzo wrote:On May 11 2016 02:00 zolasell wrote: Ok looks like we are going to see the Secret vs EG game after all.The question is do we want to given the state that both teams are right now?
Not over yet. EG going to break the streak, just sit back and enjoy  After this thrashing? Maybe if they get an amazing draft, but looking at the last one, it doesn't seem likely.
This thrashing was because of the obvious outdraft. I knew this game was over once I saw last pick CM.
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On May 11 2016 02:01 ZeaL. wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2016 02:00 zolasell wrote: Ok looks like we are going to see the Secret vs EG game after all.The question is do we want to given the state that both teams are right now?
Well we have el classico -> el trashico. What are we gonna call EG vs Secret in half a year?
Saltiest match up = NaClassico
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Cap and Redeye function really well imho. pleasure to watch
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that was a very creative pronunciation of Veil from Sheever :D
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On May 11 2016 02:02 Procake wrote: I wasn't watching, how did this game go?
EG fed Spectre and got rekt.
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