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Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
May 10 2016 10:19 GMT
#581
On May 10 2016 19:18 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 19:18 nojok wrote:
On May 10 2016 19:17 Pandemona wrote:
On May 10 2016 19:16 nayumi wrote:
On May 10 2016 19:15 Pandemona wrote:
That graph so silly, how did the carries of Newbee get rated 8/10 same as Secret's who just had EE and Mu and Hao were like 10k networth higher than them at one point TT

Are those match evaluation or overall? Think its the latter no?

Oh thought was the match xd

It is the match.

Then i stand by my outrage! xd


Every time you make that "xd" face I want to kill you
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 10 2016 10:19 GMT
#582
On May 10 2016 19:18 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 19:16 nojok wrote:
On May 10 2016 19:15 Pandemona wrote:
That graph so silly, how did the carries of Newbee get rated 8/10 same as Secret's who just had EE and Mu and Hao were like 10k networth higher than them at one point TT

It's chuan and kaka who did all the great work this game. I don't think mu and hao played better than EE.


Chuan & Kaka are what makes the entire Newbee roster work. Kaka is the best 4 in China and mostly why Ehome was winning, as well. The reason Secret won fights was they jump the Supports rather than the Cores.

To be honest, the fact that Mu started playing dota again helps too.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44160 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-10 10:19:30
May 10 2016 10:19 GMT
#583
On May 10 2016 19:18 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 19:16 nojok wrote:
On May 10 2016 19:15 Pandemona wrote:
That graph so silly, how did the carries of Newbee get rated 8/10 same as Secret's who just had EE and Mu and Hao were like 10k networth higher than them at one point TT

It's chuan and kaka who did all the great work this game. I don't think mu and hao played better than EE.


Chuan & Kaka are what makes the entire Newbee roster work. Kaka is the best 4 in China and mostly why Ehome was winning, as well. The reason Secret won fights was they jump the Supports rather than the Cores.

yah They can't jump on cores when they press BKB they can't manfight either hao or mu lol
this is a quote
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 10 2016 10:19 GMT
#584
Mindcontrol feels like a new Bdog

so much Furion
WriterXiao8~~
turpentine
Profile Joined November 2015
1624 Posts
May 10 2016 10:19 GMT
#585
On May 10 2016 19:15 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 19:14 Procake wrote:
Feel like Secret should focus on late-game drafts, not stuff like Lifestealer and QoP, I mean they were coming back but Newbee were gonna always have better late-game. If they hung on with better late-game heroes might have turned out different.

Yeah

newbee drafted a more well rounded lineup and secret played for lategame but had a midgame draft


Did Secret actually play for the lategame? They just lost the midgame so badly they could only wait for the comeback opportunity. If they're drafting like this I'm pretty sure they understand the importance of the midgame fighting, but they just don't appear to be very comfortable with this meta
Book of Funn1k, 3:22 "YOU RUINED MY LIFE AND NOW YOU TALK ABOUT 0-7 TUSK?? I would so fuckin Walrus Punch you that you will get stunned for 1 year."
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 10 2016 10:20 GMT
#586
On May 10 2016 19:19 Procake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 19:18 Pandemona wrote:
On May 10 2016 19:18 nojok wrote:
On May 10 2016 19:17 Pandemona wrote:
On May 10 2016 19:16 nayumi wrote:
On May 10 2016 19:15 Pandemona wrote:
That graph so silly, how did the carries of Newbee get rated 8/10 same as Secret's who just had EE and Mu and Hao were like 10k networth higher than them at one point TT

Are those match evaluation or overall? Think its the latter no?

Oh thought was the match xd

It is the match.

Then i stand by my outrage! xd


Every time you make that "xd" face I want to kill you

You should kill him now then thats a pande thing xd
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
May 10 2016 10:20 GMT
#587
On May 10 2016 19:16 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 19:15 Pandemona wrote:
That graph so silly, how did the carries of Newbee get rated 8/10 same as Secret's who just had EE and Mu and Hao were like 10k networth higher than them at one point TT

It's chuan and kaka who did all the great work this game. I don't think mu and hao played better than EE.

I am not taking anything away from Chaun and Kaka, but when your cores are rated the same as the opponents when there was 10k diffo between the 4 players then i don't think that is right.
Chaun got his best hero in Disrupter and Kaka showed us he is a very good Tusk player after the whole Secret draft seemed to be lets ban Kaka heroes xd
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 10 2016 10:20 GMT
#588
On May 10 2016 19:19 Kipsate wrote:
Mindcontrol feels like a new Bdog

so much Furion

Except alot better
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
May 10 2016 10:20 GMT
#589
On May 10 2016 19:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 19:18 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On May 10 2016 19:16 nojok wrote:
On May 10 2016 19:15 Pandemona wrote:
That graph so silly, how did the carries of Newbee get rated 8/10 same as Secret's who just had EE and Mu and Hao were like 10k networth higher than them at one point TT

It's chuan and kaka who did all the great work this game. I don't think mu and hao played better than EE.


Chuan & Kaka are what makes the entire Newbee roster work. Kaka is the best 4 in China and mostly why Ehome was winning, as well. The reason Secret won fights was they jump the Supports rather than the Cores.

To be honest, the fact that Mu started playing dota again helps too.

Something something playing the game something something

right
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
May 10 2016 10:20 GMT
#590
On May 10 2016 19:20 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 19:19 Procake wrote:
On May 10 2016 19:18 Pandemona wrote:
On May 10 2016 19:18 nojok wrote:
On May 10 2016 19:17 Pandemona wrote:
On May 10 2016 19:16 nayumi wrote:
On May 10 2016 19:15 Pandemona wrote:
That graph so silly, how did the carries of Newbee get rated 8/10 same as Secret's who just had EE and Mu and Hao were like 10k networth higher than them at one point TT

Are those match evaluation or overall? Think its the latter no?

Oh thought was the match xd

It is the match.

Then i stand by my outrage! xd


Every time you make that "xd" face I want to kill you

You should kill him now then thats a pande thing xd

Lots of hate today
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 10 2016 10:20 GMT
#591
On May 10 2016 19:20 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 19:16 nojok wrote:
On May 10 2016 19:15 Pandemona wrote:
That graph so silly, how did the carries of Newbee get rated 8/10 same as Secret's who just had EE and Mu and Hao were like 10k networth higher than them at one point TT

It's chuan and kaka who did all the great work this game. I don't think mu and hao played better than EE.

I am not taking anything away from Chaun and Kaka, but when your cores are rated the same as the opponents when there was 10k diffo between the 4 players then i don't think that is right.
Chaun got his best hero in Disrupter and Kaka showed us he is a very good Tusk player after the whole Secret draft seemed to be lets ban Kaka heroes xd

The hexagons were made before the tournament from what i know.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44160 Posts
May 10 2016 10:21 GMT
#592
On May 10 2016 19:19 turpentine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 19:15 goody153 wrote:
On May 10 2016 19:14 Procake wrote:
Feel like Secret should focus on late-game drafts, not stuff like Lifestealer and QoP, I mean they were coming back but Newbee were gonna always have better late-game. If they hung on with better late-game heroes might have turned out different.

Yeah

newbee drafted a more well rounded lineup and secret played for lategame but had a midgame draft


Did Secret actually play for the lategame? They just lost the midgame so badly they could only wait for the comeback opportunity. If they're drafting like this I'm pretty sure they understand the importance of the midgame fighting, but they just don't appear to be very comfortable with this meta

Well not really

but they were forced to play for the lategame since they didn't have the advantage midgame lol
this is a quote
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 10 2016 10:21 GMT
#593
Pande Leicester won the PL everything is possible in this world.
WriterXiao8~~
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 10 2016 10:21 GMT
#594
On May 10 2016 19:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 19:18 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On May 10 2016 19:16 nojok wrote:
On May 10 2016 19:15 Pandemona wrote:
That graph so silly, how did the carries of Newbee get rated 8/10 same as Secret's who just had EE and Mu and Hao were like 10k networth higher than them at one point TT

It's chuan and kaka who did all the great work this game. I don't think mu and hao played better than EE.


Chuan & Kaka are what makes the entire Newbee roster work. Kaka is the best 4 in China and mostly why Ehome was winning, as well. The reason Secret won fights was they jump the Supports rather than the Cores.

To be honest, the fact that Mu started playing dota again helps too.


I watched Newbee vs CDEC @ Shanghai. I want a refund for watching that shit at a Major.

So, yeah, it helps. That they only changed 2 players and are suddenly a Tier 1 team is sort of fascinating. But it's also why it's really not on Hao & Mu changing much. It's Kaka, who is apparently drafting? That helps a lot.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
May 10 2016 10:21 GMT
#595
On May 10 2016 19:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 19:20 Pandemona wrote:
On May 10 2016 19:16 nojok wrote:
On May 10 2016 19:15 Pandemona wrote:
That graph so silly, how did the carries of Newbee get rated 8/10 same as Secret's who just had EE and Mu and Hao were like 10k networth higher than them at one point TT

It's chuan and kaka who did all the great work this game. I don't think mu and hao played better than EE.

I am not taking anything away from Chaun and Kaka, but when your cores are rated the same as the opponents when there was 10k diffo between the 4 players then i don't think that is right.
Chaun got his best hero in Disrupter and Kaka showed us he is a very good Tusk player after the whole Secret draft seemed to be lets ban Kaka heroes xd

The hexagons were made before the tournament from what i know.

Ahhh well at least we have a game 2 draft!!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 10 2016 10:22 GMT
#596
On May 10 2016 19:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 19:20 Pandemona wrote:
On May 10 2016 19:16 nojok wrote:
On May 10 2016 19:15 Pandemona wrote:
That graph so silly, how did the carries of Newbee get rated 8/10 same as Secret's who just had EE and Mu and Hao were like 10k networth higher than them at one point TT

It's chuan and kaka who did all the great work this game. I don't think mu and hao played better than EE.

I am not taking anything away from Chaun and Kaka, but when your cores are rated the same as the opponents when there was 10k diffo between the 4 players then i don't think that is right.
Chaun got his best hero in Disrupter and Kaka showed us he is a very good Tusk player after the whole Secret draft seemed to be lets ban Kaka heroes xd

The hexagons were made before the tournament from what i know.

Then it should be even lower in some cases.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
turpentine
Profile Joined November 2015
1624 Posts
May 10 2016 10:22 GMT
#597
Secret picks dazzle and Newbee get lion for themselves

we loooooost
Book of Funn1k, 3:22 "YOU RUINED MY LIFE AND NOW YOU TALK ABOUT 0-7 TUSK?? I would so fuckin Walrus Punch you that you will get stunned for 1 year."
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
May 10 2016 10:22 GMT
#598
On May 10 2016 19:21 Kipsate wrote:
Pande Leicester won the PL everything is possible in this world.

Yes and Ajax choked so hard vs 17th in Eredivisie to let PSV win the title. Throws all around Europe this year
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
May 10 2016 10:22 GMT
#599
Incoming EE Huskar
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 10 2016 10:23 GMT
#600
i'm cool with that, Ajax sucks when they touch international football anyway.
WriterXiao8~~
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