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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44172 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-11 10:22:38
May 11 2016 10:20 GMT
#2281
On May 11 2016 19:16 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 19:10 goody153 wrote:
On May 11 2016 19:09 Dracolich70 wrote:
On May 11 2016 19:07 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 11 2016 19:06 Dracolich70 wrote:
All these unfortunate "freezes"/lags always happen in teamfights somehow.


It's beta, calm down.
I am more thinking about the players insistence to pause in a team fight.

Do you suggest that they never use what pauses are intended if there were issues and play even if it's lagging or PC goes to hell or are you accusing them of cheating ?

why are you only raising this question when secret pauses and not OG .. what if i told you that you could use the same reason as you whenever OG pauses even if it were not fights that they are tactically pausing and discussing the game
Pauses are most likely intended for an agreed upon pause between two parties, or you pick an opportune moment to have it. If you pause at a time where it only ends up being an advantage for you doing it, and disadvantage for opposing party, you are now using a tool to mentally rock your opponent in a game where mentality and precision matters the most.

I didn't raise it yesterday, and OG was the target of them 3-4 times in the same game.

So you have double standards since i never heard you raise this point when OG does this. OG has done this kind of pause before.

You only raised on Secret when OG has done it as well before but you never said this stuff before . Classic dracolich.

And are you suggesting that you never pause even if your team is having issues with pc, lags or what not if the enemy isn't ? Just accept it and move on ? LMAO
this is a quote
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 11 2016 10:23 GMT
#2282
On May 11 2016 19:19 babysimba wrote:
Whats with all these naix picks? Did Newbee own everyone with Naix in scrims :D

Armlet is great => lot of melee strength carries => naix
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Lancehead
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada123 Posts
May 11 2016 10:23 GMT
#2283
On May 11 2016 19:17 FiWiFaKi wrote:
GG secret, Arteezy played mid so good.

A bit questionable by EE, but I enjoy seeing games like this from Secret.


Bladefury was the wrong choice considering the pace of the game. There was barely any time for him to farm since they were pushing so hard. The game would have been a lot easier if he just got some survivability instead.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
May 11 2016 10:23 GMT
#2284
On May 11 2016 19:17 Kraznaya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 19:12 Pandemona wrote:
On May 11 2016 19:10 StarVe wrote:
On May 11 2016 19:09 Pandemona wrote:
Why did they try and take the 2nd set of rax. Dear oh dear

because now they took a 2nd set of rax?

They did not, they took a rax and lost 2 cores out the game and the gold swing from that must have been a fair whack, especially due to Alchemist getting that. 900 gold to chen in there.


what? they got the top melee, as well as bot. what game were you watching?

They got a set of rax, killed 3 heroes with small respawn timers on. Then proceeded to loop around to top where respawn timers are again getting lower, proceed as 2 heroes Rtz and EE to try take another set of rax. They forced 3 bbs it seemed i thought was only Naix, then got caught and died. Which they only managed to kill the ranged rax. I thought they could have waited for that. Thought was not needed and to go again with 5. Puppey still had blackhole iirc and go back in again with a full lion. Oh well
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 11 2016 10:24 GMT
#2285
On May 11 2016 19:23 Lancehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 19:17 FiWiFaKi wrote:
GG secret, Arteezy played mid so good.

A bit questionable by EE, but I enjoy seeing games like this from Secret.


Bladefury was the wrong choice considering the pace of the game. There was barely any time for him to farm since they were pushing so hard. The game would have been a lot easier if he just got some survivability instead.

Bladefury is a good spell :>
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44172 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-11 10:25:30
May 11 2016 10:24 GMT
#2286
On May 11 2016 19:23 Lancehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 19:17 FiWiFaKi wrote:
GG secret, Arteezy played mid so good.

A bit questionable by EE, but I enjoy seeing games like this from Secret.


Bladefury was the wrong choice considering the pace of the game. There was barely any time for him to farm since they were pushing so hard. The game would have been a lot easier if he just got some survivability instead.

He probably just invested for the lategame incase the push didn't work. Kinda like buying midas or building up for the lategame instead of the game even when you can possibly finish the game.

But i prefer he got something else instead of Bfury

(i'll assume that bladefury = battlefury and just a typo)
this is a quote
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-11 10:25:51
May 11 2016 10:24 GMT
#2287
On May 11 2016 19:20 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 19:16 Dracolich70 wrote:
On May 11 2016 19:10 goody153 wrote:
On May 11 2016 19:09 Dracolich70 wrote:
On May 11 2016 19:07 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 11 2016 19:06 Dracolich70 wrote:
All these unfortunate "freezes"/lags always happen in teamfights somehow.


It's beta, calm down.
I am more thinking about the players insistence to pause in a team fight.

Do you suggest that they never use what pauses are intended if there were issues and play even if it's lagging or PC goes to hell or are you accusing them of cheating ?

why are you only raising this question when secret pauses and not OG .. what if i told you that you could use the same reason as you whenever OG pauses even if it were not fights that they are tactically pausing and discussing the game
Pauses are most likely intended for an agreed upon pause between two parties, or you pick an opportune moment to have it. If you pause at a time where it only ends up being an advantage for you doing it, and disadvantage for opposing party, you are now using a tool to mentally rock your opponent in a game where mentality and precision matters the most.

I didn't raise it yesterday, and OG was the target of them 3-4 times in the same game.

So you have double standards since i never heard you raise this point when OG does this. OG has done this kind of pause before.

And are you suggesting that you never pause even if your team is having issues with pc, lags or what not if the enemy isn't ? ROFL



Not sure about the double standards. I just told you about they were the target of this, but didn't mention it still. I have complained about tactical pauses since March 2012, where Na'vi paused everytime a big team fight was about to pursue or when it was very convenient.

I am not saying that issues can't happen. I as a skeptical person, who isn't retarded, question the timing of them. Reverse questions. Do tactical pauses happen? Deciding the pause timing, is an advantage as opposed to the target of it, yes or no?
LiangHao
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 11 2016 10:25 GMT
#2288
I've seen Naix in some 5-6 games this patch and it never worked
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Lancehead
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada123 Posts
May 11 2016 10:25 GMT
#2289
On May 11 2016 19:24 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 19:23 Lancehead wrote:
On May 11 2016 19:17 FiWiFaKi wrote:
GG secret, Arteezy played mid so good.

A bit questionable by EE, but I enjoy seeing games like this from Secret.


Bladefury was the wrong choice considering the pace of the game. There was barely any time for him to farm since they were pushing so hard. The game would have been a lot easier if he just got some survivability instead.

Bladefury is a good spell :>


Battlefury 4head

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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
May 11 2016 10:26 GMT
#2290
secret as "European union" still cracks me up.

3 of their players are from NA.

I get that it's not where the players are from, but what region they choose to compete in... still so odd.
turpentine
Profile Joined November 2015
1624 Posts
May 11 2016 10:28 GMT
#2291
On May 11 2016 19:26 trinxified wrote:
secret as "European union" still cracks me up.

3 of their players are from NA.

I get that it's not where the players are from, but what region they choose to compete in... still so odd.


EE has basically been an EU player for a very long time tho. Nth, C9, Secret v3...
Book of Funn1k, 3:22 "YOU RUINED MY LIFE AND NOW YOU TALK ABOUT 0-7 TUSK?? I would so fuckin Walrus Punch you that you will get stunned for 1 year."
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
May 11 2016 10:28 GMT
#2292
On May 11 2016 19:23 Lancehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 19:17 FiWiFaKi wrote:
GG secret, Arteezy played mid so good.

A bit questionable by EE, but I enjoy seeing games like this from Secret.


Bladefury was the wrong choice considering the pace of the game. There was barely any time for him to farm since they were pushing so hard. The game would have been a lot easier if he just got some survivability instead.


I guess the battlefury build is for late-game insurance, just in case they couldn't finish early.

Jugg needs that item to stay on pace with farm.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 11 2016 10:28 GMT
#2293
On May 11 2016 19:24 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 19:23 Lancehead wrote:
On May 11 2016 19:17 FiWiFaKi wrote:
GG secret, Arteezy played mid so good.

A bit questionable by EE, but I enjoy seeing games like this from Secret.


Bladefury was the wrong choice considering the pace of the game. There was barely any time for him to farm since they were pushing so hard. The game would have been a lot easier if he just got some survivability instead.

Bladefury is a good spell :>

:D

Also yeah, they didn't go all-in there
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
May 11 2016 10:29 GMT
#2294
lol Blitz ran out of hair gel or something?
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 11 2016 10:29 GMT
#2295
On May 11 2016 19:26 trinxified wrote:
secret as "European union" still cracks me up.

3 of their players are from NA.

I get that it's not where the players are from, but what region they choose to compete in... still so odd.

Still more EU than DC is NA.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
May 11 2016 10:30 GMT
#2296
On May 11 2016 19:29 nayumi wrote:
lol Blitz ran out of hair gel or something?


looks more mature and skinnier that way I think.
Lancehead
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada123 Posts
May 11 2016 10:30 GMT
#2297
On May 11 2016 19:28 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 19:23 Lancehead wrote:
On May 11 2016 19:17 FiWiFaKi wrote:
GG secret, Arteezy played mid so good.

A bit questionable by EE, but I enjoy seeing games like this from Secret.


Bladefury was the wrong choice considering the pace of the game. There was barely any time for him to farm since they were pushing so hard. The game would have been a lot easier if he just got some survivability instead.


I guess the battlefury build is for late-game insurance, just in case they couldn't finish early.

Jugg needs that item to stay on pace with farm.


Yeah, I'm sure that's it. In hindsight something else would probably have been better, but hindsight = 20/20, etc.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 11 2016 10:31 GMT
#2298
On May 11 2016 19:23 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 19:17 Kraznaya wrote:
On May 11 2016 19:12 Pandemona wrote:
On May 11 2016 19:10 StarVe wrote:
On May 11 2016 19:09 Pandemona wrote:
Why did they try and take the 2nd set of rax. Dear oh dear

because now they took a 2nd set of rax?

They did not, they took a rax and lost 2 cores out the game and the gold swing from that must have been a fair whack, especially due to Alchemist getting that. 900 gold to chen in there.


what? they got the top melee, as well as bot. what game were you watching?

They got a set of rax, killed 3 heroes with small respawn timers on. Then proceeded to loop around to top where respawn timers are again getting lower, proceed as 2 heroes Rtz and EE to try take another set of rax. They forced 3 bbs it seemed i thought was only Naix, then got caught and died. Which they only managed to kill the ranged rax. I thought they could have waited for that. Thought was not needed and to go again with 5. Puppey still had blackhole iirc and go back in again with a full lion. Oh well


If you're in a position where your late game is relatively strong and the creep wave is favourable such that the enemy can't force your buyback, such trades are very favourable to you.
turpentine
Profile Joined November 2015
1624 Posts
May 11 2016 10:31 GMT
#2299
LOL

fng rated as 5 on the hexagon

I quite agree
Book of Funn1k, 3:22 "YOU RUINED MY LIFE AND NOW YOU TALK ABOUT 0-7 TUSK?? I would so fuckin Walrus Punch you that you will get stunned for 1 year."
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
May 11 2016 10:31 GMT
#2300
On May 11 2016 19:29 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 19:26 trinxified wrote:
secret as "European union" still cracks me up.

3 of their players are from NA.

I get that it's not where the players are from, but what region they choose to compete in... still so odd.

Still more EU than DC is NA.


lol ya you're right, good point!
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