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On May 01 2016 22:17 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2016 22:16 lolnoty wrote:On May 01 2016 22:11 Kraznaya wrote:On May 01 2016 22:10 lolnoty wrote:On May 01 2016 22:10 Elasticity wrote:
rtz was right as evidenced by them (secret) doing much worse? eg performed exactly the same as secret in the group stage the difference is this tournament has a losers bracket they literally couldnt have performed exactly the same, because one group stage was Three bo3's, and Weplay was 3 bo1's. Secret lost to Empire twice, EG beat Empire in their bo3. Those are irrelevant details. If this tournament had 3rd place of group stage eliminated like Manilla, EG would not make it to bracket.
how the fuck is it irrelevant that bo3 means more than bo1
you forgot your /s dude
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On May 01 2016 22:16 TanGeng wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2016 22:15 MaCRo.gg wrote:
This result is probably better for MVP.
Skill vs skill matchup vs Vega is better than having to face a captain like PPD with the young Dubu at the helm. Isn't Dubu oldest on the team?
In terms of experience he is by far the youngest on the roster. In terms of age, I'm 90% sure he is the youngest.
EDIT: You are probably thinking about March. He was wayyyyyyyy overdue for mandatory service.
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On May 01 2016 22:16 lolnoty wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2016 22:11 Kraznaya wrote:On May 01 2016 22:10 lolnoty wrote:On May 01 2016 22:10 Elasticity wrote:
rtz was right as evidenced by them (secret) doing much worse? eg performed exactly the same as secret in the group stage the difference is this tournament has a losers bracket they literally couldnt have performed exactly the same, because one group stage was Three bo3's, and Weplay was 3 bo1's. Secret lost to Empire twice, EG beat Empire in their bo3.
they both finished third in their group
imo eg has been wholly unconvincing in all of their series this tournament, although secret was obviously awful at manila as well
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On May 01 2016 22:17 OuchyDathurts wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2016 22:16 TanGeng wrote:On May 01 2016 22:15 MaCRo.gg wrote:
This result is probably better for MVP.
Skill vs skill matchup vs Vega is better than having to face a captain like PPD with the young Dubu at the helm. Isn't Dubu oldest on the team? Is he not the guy who has only been playing dota for like 2 years? Show nested quote +On May 01 2016 22:14 Azarkon wrote:On May 01 2016 22:12 nojok wrote:On May 01 2016 22:11 Azarkon wrote:
Arteezy and Universe obviously have more skill, but Arteezy and PPD are not able to play together just as they weren't able to in 2015 so in the end, what can you do. The only big problem is that Arteezy took Universe with him. Zai as sub, let him get his diploma, kick bulba before TI and get zai in. Yes, I feel this is what they're going to do. Make an excuse for why they need to change. I don't think bulba, or any competitor, just goes quietly into the night like that.
He'll do what is best for his team. Isn't that the way he is?
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On May 01 2016 22:18 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2016 22:17 OuchyDathurts wrote:On May 01 2016 22:16 TanGeng wrote:On May 01 2016 22:15 MaCRo.gg wrote:
This result is probably better for MVP.
Skill vs skill matchup vs Vega is better than having to face a captain like PPD with the young Dubu at the helm. Isn't Dubu oldest on the team? Is he not the guy who has only been playing dota for like 2 years? On May 01 2016 22:14 Azarkon wrote:On May 01 2016 22:12 nojok wrote:On May 01 2016 22:11 Azarkon wrote:
Arteezy and Universe obviously have more skill, but Arteezy and PPD are not able to play together just as they weren't able to in 2015 so in the end, what can you do. The only big problem is that Arteezy took Universe with him. Zai as sub, let him get his diploma, kick bulba before TI and get zai in. Yes, I feel this is what they're going to do. Make an excuse for why they need to change. I don't think bulba, or any competitor, just goes quietly into the night like that. He'll do what is best for his team. Isn't that the way he is?
bulba is playing incredibly sick, why would Zai fix anything?
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On May 01 2016 22:17 lolnoty wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2016 22:17 lolfail9001 wrote:On May 01 2016 22:16 lolnoty wrote:On May 01 2016 22:11 Kraznaya wrote:On May 01 2016 22:10 lolnoty wrote:On May 01 2016 22:10 Elasticity wrote:
rtz was right as evidenced by them (secret) doing much worse? eg performed exactly the same as secret in the group stage the difference is this tournament has a losers bracket they literally couldnt have performed exactly the same, because one group stage was Three bo3's, and Weplay was 3 bo1's. Secret lost to Empire twice, EG beat Empire in their bo3. Those are irrelevant details. If this tournament had 3rd place of group stage eliminated like Manilla, EG would not make it to bracket. how the fuck is it irrelevant that bo3 means more than bo1 you forgot your /s dude
Yes, instead of losing 0-1 they would have lost 0-2, considering first day EG, your point?
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On May 01 2016 22:18 Kraznaya wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2016 22:16 lolnoty wrote:On May 01 2016 22:11 Kraznaya wrote:On May 01 2016 22:10 lolnoty wrote:On May 01 2016 22:10 Elasticity wrote:
rtz was right as evidenced by them (secret) doing much worse? eg performed exactly the same as secret in the group stage the difference is this tournament has a losers bracket they literally couldnt have performed exactly the same, because one group stage was Three bo3's, and Weplay was 3 bo1's. Secret lost to Empire twice, EG beat Empire in their bo3. they both finished third in their group imo eg has been wholly unconvincing in all of their series this tournament, although secret was obviously awful at manila as well
Okay so you think
0-2 empire
1-2 empire
2-0 EHOME
is more convincing than
2-1 spirit
2-0 evolves
2-1 empire
1-2 vega
I don't care at all about bo1's when I look at teams but I guess some people like to jerk off over 15-0 group stage before dropping in series.
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On May 01 2016 22:18 Kraznaya wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2016 22:16 lolnoty wrote:On May 01 2016 22:11 Kraznaya wrote:On May 01 2016 22:10 lolnoty wrote:On May 01 2016 22:10 Elasticity wrote:
rtz was right as evidenced by them (secret) doing much worse? eg performed exactly the same as secret in the group stage the difference is this tournament has a losers bracket they literally couldnt have performed exactly the same, because one group stage was Three bo3's, and Weplay was 3 bo1's. Secret lost to Empire twice, EG beat Empire in their bo3. they both finished third in their group imo eg has been wholly unconvincing in all of their series this tournament, although secret was obviously awful at manila as well
EG didn't look very strong, although they did manage to get to the lower bracket finals. Secret on the other hand looked like complete trash tho, pubstack level. Secret looked far, far worse IMO
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On May 01 2016 22:20 lolnoty wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2016 22:18 Kraznaya wrote:On May 01 2016 22:16 lolnoty wrote:On May 01 2016 22:11 Kraznaya wrote:On May 01 2016 22:10 lolnoty wrote:On May 01 2016 22:10 Elasticity wrote:
rtz was right as evidenced by them (secret) doing much worse? eg performed exactly the same as secret in the group stage the difference is this tournament has a losers bracket they literally couldnt have performed exactly the same, because one group stage was Three bo3's, and Weplay was 3 bo1's. Secret lost to Empire twice, EG beat Empire in their bo3. they both finished third in their group imo eg has been wholly unconvincing in all of their series this tournament, although secret was obviously awful at manila as well Okay so you think 0-2 empire 1-2 empire 2-0 EHOME is more convincing than 2-1 spirit 2-0 evolves 2-1 empire 1-2 vega
You are intentionally misunderstanding, let your fanboy feelings down and reread his post.
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On May 01 2016 22:19 Shaella wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2016 22:18 Azarkon wrote:On May 01 2016 22:17 OuchyDathurts wrote:On May 01 2016 22:16 TanGeng wrote:On May 01 2016 22:15 MaCRo.gg wrote:
This result is probably better for MVP.
Skill vs skill matchup vs Vega is better than having to face a captain like PPD with the young Dubu at the helm. Isn't Dubu oldest on the team? Is he not the guy who has only been playing dota for like 2 years? On May 01 2016 22:14 Azarkon wrote:On May 01 2016 22:12 nojok wrote:On May 01 2016 22:11 Azarkon wrote:
Arteezy and Universe obviously have more skill, but Arteezy and PPD are not able to play together just as they weren't able to in 2015 so in the end, what can you do. The only big problem is that Arteezy took Universe with him. Zai as sub, let him get his diploma, kick bulba before TI and get zai in. Yes, I feel this is what they're going to do. Make an excuse for why they need to change. I don't think bulba, or any competitor, just goes quietly into the night like that. He'll do what is best for his team. Isn't that the way he is? bulba is playing incredibly sick, why would Zai fix anything?
Bulba is a top player, but in the same class as the best player on Secret in 2015?
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On May 01 2016 22:18 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2016 22:17 OuchyDathurts wrote:On May 01 2016 22:16 TanGeng wrote:On May 01 2016 22:15 MaCRo.gg wrote:
This result is probably better for MVP.
Skill vs skill matchup vs Vega is better than having to face a captain like PPD with the young Dubu at the helm. Isn't Dubu oldest on the team? Is he not the guy who has only been playing dota for like 2 years? On May 01 2016 22:14 Azarkon wrote:On May 01 2016 22:12 nojok wrote:On May 01 2016 22:11 Azarkon wrote:
Arteezy and Universe obviously have more skill, but Arteezy and PPD are not able to play together just as they weren't able to in 2015 so in the end, what can you do. The only big problem is that Arteezy took Universe with him. Zai as sub, let him get his diploma, kick bulba before TI and get zai in. Yes, I feel this is what they're going to do. Make an excuse for why they need to change. I don't think bulba, or any competitor, just goes quietly into the night like that. He'll do what is best for his team. Isn't that the way he is?
He turned down a player's cut to coach. Every single player wants to compete money isn't the point. There was some moonduck thing I think it was with Alliance where they asked if pros would rather never win a tourney but be able to compete, or get a bunch of money and never get to play and every single one of them chose being poor but competing. Same thing happened to Era with Fnatic. I don't think any player is going to just roll over like that unless they're legitimately hurt like Fear they're playing.
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On May 01 2016 22:20 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2016 22:17 lolnoty wrote:On May 01 2016 22:17 lolfail9001 wrote:On May 01 2016 22:16 lolnoty wrote:On May 01 2016 22:11 Kraznaya wrote:On May 01 2016 22:10 lolnoty wrote:On May 01 2016 22:10 Elasticity wrote:
rtz was right as evidenced by them (secret) doing much worse? eg performed exactly the same as secret in the group stage the difference is this tournament has a losers bracket they literally couldnt have performed exactly the same, because one group stage was Three bo3's, and Weplay was 3 bo1's. Secret lost to Empire twice, EG beat Empire in their bo3. Those are irrelevant details. If this tournament had 3rd place of group stage eliminated like Manilla, EG would not make it to bracket. how the fuck is it irrelevant that bo3 means more than bo1 you forgot your /s dude Yes, instead of losing 0-1 they would have lost 0-2, considering first day EG, your point?
Sometimes you say correct stuff then other time you make things up. I'm sorry this is a time you want to create fiction in a discussion.
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They will just move bulba back to coach and share prize pool among the 6 players.
Coaches are way too underrated. He is like the most important person to prevent teams from self-destructing when teammates exchange opinions on how to improve.
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Honestly, Bulba performed really well this tourney imo. I think the team just needs time to figure out how to play with him and to find more heroes to pick for him. Along with Fear I'd even say he was the only one on EG who really delivered this tourney.
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On May 01 2016 22:21 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2016 22:19 Shaella wrote:On May 01 2016 22:18 Azarkon wrote:On May 01 2016 22:17 OuchyDathurts wrote:On May 01 2016 22:16 TanGeng wrote:On May 01 2016 22:15 MaCRo.gg wrote:
This result is probably better for MVP.
Skill vs skill matchup vs Vega is better than having to face a captain like PPD with the young Dubu at the helm. Isn't Dubu oldest on the team? Is he not the guy who has only been playing dota for like 2 years? On May 01 2016 22:14 Azarkon wrote:On May 01 2016 22:12 nojok wrote:On May 01 2016 22:11 Azarkon wrote:
Arteezy and Universe obviously have more skill, but Arteezy and PPD are not able to play together just as they weren't able to in 2015 so in the end, what can you do. The only big problem is that Arteezy took Universe with him. Zai as sub, let him get his diploma, kick bulba before TI and get zai in. Yes, I feel this is what they're going to do. Make an excuse for why they need to change. I don't think bulba, or any competitor, just goes quietly into the night like that. He'll do what is best for his team. Isn't that the way he is? bulba is playing incredibly sick, why would Zai fix anything? Bulba is a top player, but in the same class as the best player on Secret in 2015?
Yes.
Zai is not that good, he's probably the most overrated player in the history of the game right now
Bulba came in to replace Universe, who many people think is the best in the world, and has been crushing it
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On May 01 2016 22:22 babysimba wrote:
They will just move bulba back to coach and share prize pool among the 6 players.
Coaches are way too underrated. He is like the most important person to prevent teams from self-destructing when teammates exchange opinions on how to improve.
Seriously, just look at what happened with Newbee after mikasa left.
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On May 01 2016 22:23 Shaella wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2016 22:21 Azarkon wrote:On May 01 2016 22:19 Shaella wrote:On May 01 2016 22:18 Azarkon wrote:On May 01 2016 22:17 OuchyDathurts wrote:On May 01 2016 22:16 TanGeng wrote:On May 01 2016 22:15 MaCRo.gg wrote:
This result is probably better for MVP.
Skill vs skill matchup vs Vega is better than having to face a captain like PPD with the young Dubu at the helm. Isn't Dubu oldest on the team? Is he not the guy who has only been playing dota for like 2 years? On May 01 2016 22:14 Azarkon wrote:On May 01 2016 22:12 nojok wrote:On May 01 2016 22:11 Azarkon wrote:
Arteezy and Universe obviously have more skill, but Arteezy and PPD are not able to play together just as they weren't able to in 2015 so in the end, what can you do. The only big problem is that Arteezy took Universe with him. Zai as sub, let him get his diploma, kick bulba before TI and get zai in. Yes, I feel this is what they're going to do. Make an excuse for why they need to change. I don't think bulba, or any competitor, just goes quietly into the night like that. He'll do what is best for his team. Isn't that the way he is? bulba is playing incredibly sick, why would Zai fix anything? Bulba is a top player, but in the same class as the best player on Secret in 2015? Yes. Zai is not that good, he's probably the most overrated player in the history of the game right now Bulba came in to replace Universe, who many people think is the best in the world, and has been crushing it
Most overrated player...I'll have what you're smoking.
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Guys, we all know that solution for EG is simple:
1. Fear
2. Sumail
3. Zai
4. Aui
5. PPD
Here, you got your TI6-winner potential team
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OMG EG OR SECRET didnt live up to my expectations!!!!!
they should swap roles disband and give more fucks about non manor tournaments!!!
classic TL tournament threads going full retard EVERY DAMN TIME
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On May 01 2016 22:23 Shaella wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2016 22:21 Azarkon wrote:On May 01 2016 22:19 Shaella wrote:On May 01 2016 22:18 Azarkon wrote:On May 01 2016 22:17 OuchyDathurts wrote:On May 01 2016 22:16 TanGeng wrote:On May 01 2016 22:15 MaCRo.gg wrote:
This result is probably better for MVP.
Skill vs skill matchup vs Vega is better than having to face a captain like PPD with the young Dubu at the helm. Isn't Dubu oldest on the team? Is he not the guy who has only been playing dota for like 2 years? On May 01 2016 22:14 Azarkon wrote:On May 01 2016 22:12 nojok wrote:On May 01 2016 22:11 Azarkon wrote:
Arteezy and Universe obviously have more skill, but Arteezy and PPD are not able to play together just as they weren't able to in 2015 so in the end, what can you do. The only big problem is that Arteezy took Universe with him. Zai as sub, let him get his diploma, kick bulba before TI and get zai in. Yes, I feel this is what they're going to do. Make an excuse for why they need to change. I don't think bulba, or any competitor, just goes quietly into the night like that. He'll do what is best for his team. Isn't that the way he is? bulba is playing incredibly sick, why would Zai fix anything? Bulba is a top player, but in the same class as the best player on Secret in 2015? Yes. Zai is not that good, he's probably the most overrated player in the history of the game right now Bulba came in to replace Universe, who many people think is the best in the world, and has been crushing it
i think it says all you need to know about bulba fans when they're elated by a 3rd place result
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