On April 22 2016 17:44 StarVe wrote:
This is what Ramzes can do with a keyboard, guys.
This is what Ramzes can do with a keyboard, guys.
The Chinese knew what they were doing, all along.
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uriel-
Singapore1867 Posts
On April 22 2016 17:44 StarVe wrote: This is what Ramzes can do with a keyboard, guys. The Chinese knew what they were doing, all along. | ||
ForTehDarkseid
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On April 22 2016 17:44 Taf the Ghost wrote: Show nested quote + On April 22 2016 17:43 ForTehDarkseid wrote: On April 22 2016 17:41 Alpino wrote: On April 22 2016 17:38 Azarkon wrote: It's not even Universe's fault. He is used to playing with a team that plays a certain way, while Secret plays a completely different way. It was Secret's mistake to go for Arteezy when they already had solid middle and off players. We'll know if it was a mistake after TI. Secret might not even get invited, if they don't improve radically before Manila. Secret is locked for Manila and TI6. You talk like major roster change didn't happen, huh. | ||
Azarkon
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Danzo
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Kamisamanachi
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On April 22 2016 17:44 Taf the Ghost wrote: Show nested quote + On April 22 2016 17:43 ForTehDarkseid wrote: On April 22 2016 17:41 Alpino wrote: On April 22 2016 17:38 Azarkon wrote: It's not even Universe's fault. He is used to playing with a team that plays a certain way, while Secret plays a completely different way. It was Secret's mistake to go for Arteezy when they already had solid middle and off players. We'll know if it was a mistake after TI. Secret might not even get invited, if they don't improve radically before Manila. Secret is locked for Manila and TI6. U didn't get what he was saying . he said secret might not get direct invite to TI if they don't perform good at Manila major ..it isn't related to they locked in or not | ||
uriel-
Singapore1867 Posts
On April 22 2016 17:44 Taf the Ghost wrote: Show nested quote + On April 22 2016 17:43 ForTehDarkseid wrote: On April 22 2016 17:41 Alpino wrote: On April 22 2016 17:38 Azarkon wrote: It's not even Universe's fault. He is used to playing with a team that plays a certain way, while Secret plays a completely different way. It was Secret's mistake to go for Arteezy when they already had solid middle and off players. We'll know if it was a mistake after TI. Secret might not even get invited, if they don't improve radically before Manila. Secret is locked for Manila and TI6. How? They just changed rosters (2 major changes too), they need to show they can perform. If they maintain this level of performance and still get invited I'll be pretty disgusted with valve. | ||
spudde123
4814 Posts
On April 22 2016 17:43 Taf the Ghost wrote: We can probably start talking about the problem that Puppey is going to have to work out: Arteezy takes up a LOT of farm. EE takes up a LOT of farm. ppd finally solved this problem, partially due to the meta, by playing a 1/3/3/3/5 system. Their only major mistake was not banning Nature's Prophet at Shanghai. ![]() Eh, I don't agree at all. I don't see how these games had anything to do with people taking farm, the rotations from Secret achieved very little in both games and after a while their drafts were inferior. In the first game there were a few key fights that just turned the game completely for Empire and in the 2nd game somehow Secret just was not successful at all in finding good fights with their Tide+Chen+OD early power, and after a while it was again too late really to do anything. | ||
HammerKick
France6190 Posts
even if that was super bad it is not over yet | ||
turpentine
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On April 22 2016 17:43 spudde123 wrote: Universe definitely just missed spells but at the same time he was rarely in a position where there was an easy button to be pressed that would lead to Secret accomplishing something. Felt to me like Secret was very hesitant to do stuff, and whenever they tried some smokes they were rather difficult to pull off. Wasn't really a particular player problem but an issue with what you do as a team. And both drafts were also such that Secret couldn't afford to have it go even like that. I think they did try to do stuff in the first game, it just didn't work out because Nyx alone wasn't enough control (especially if he's missing spells) so Empire always got their ebola off and wisp+dazzle weren't enough vs both the magical and physical damage from Empire. Probably shook them before the second game | ||
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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
team would have to disband to not get one. but that's still just speculation because of volvo | ||
Kamisamanachi
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ForTehDarkseid
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On April 22 2016 17:47 HammerKick wrote: Guys it's only 2 games, can you wait to see the end of the event before concluding anything even if that was super bad it is not over yet EHOME should be better than that. | ||
Atoissen
Norway1737 Posts
On April 22 2016 17:44 TanGeng wrote: It sounded like the old secret would have needed 1437 full time coaching to suppress all the team tensions. What they did to w33 though near the deadline. Just cold +1 and +1 | ||
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TanGeng
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TanGeng
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spudde123
4814 Posts
On April 22 2016 17:48 turpentine wrote: Show nested quote + On April 22 2016 17:43 spudde123 wrote: Universe definitely just missed spells but at the same time he was rarely in a position where there was an easy button to be pressed that would lead to Secret accomplishing something. Felt to me like Secret was very hesitant to do stuff, and whenever they tried some smokes they were rather difficult to pull off. Wasn't really a particular player problem but an issue with what you do as a team. And both drafts were also such that Secret couldn't afford to have it go even like that. I think they did try to do stuff in the first game, it just didn't work out because Nyx alone wasn't enough control (especially if he's missing spells) so Empire always got their ebola off and wisp+dazzle weren't enough vs both the magical and physical damage from Empire. Probably shook them before the second game Yeah, in the first game they did try. That was more in terms of the 2nd game, their movement just was really awkward in that. First game honestly came down to a few badly taken fights (like the baited initiation on Spectre and some fight later mid I believe), and after a while there was very little Secret could do in the game even if they had a Naga. The OD was just completely useless in both games after they didn't manage to utilize his early laning advantage to get a good lead in the game. | ||
lolnoty
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
Personally I feel like Universe has been slumping lately in general even before leaving EG the last few tourneys he wasn't their best player. That's not to say he's bad at all, just wasn't up to that insanely fucking high bar he set for himself, didn't have that universe sparkle. But it seems natural to have some ebbs and flows, hopefully he hits his stride again I'll always love that handsome Indian fellow. | ||
ForTehDarkseid
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have fun playing. | ||
Vertical
Indonesia4317 Posts
On April 22 2016 17:39 fangeast wrote: RTZ: Daddy fear, love me again. Universe : Peter let me suck your dick again | ||
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