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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 22 2016 08:40 GMT
#501
On April 22 2016 17:35 atrox_ wrote:
What an Empire performance. Universe is trash without PPD apparently


He went to TI2 with Maelk. And TI3 with Dignitas. Don't overplay a bad series.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
April 22 2016 08:40 GMT
#502
On April 22 2016 17:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 17:36 Squat wrote:
It seems like the very fabric of the Universe has turned against secret, and the tide has finally turned. At this point, this game is kind of like watching someone kick a puppy. Closing this game out should be as easy as pie, you might even say.

Let yourself out, bro.

Hey. Don't show him the door. We need a bad pun guy.
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turpentine
Profile Joined November 2015
1624 Posts
April 22 2016 08:40 GMT
#503
On April 22 2016 17:38 Azarkon wrote:
It's not even Universe's fault. He is used to playing with a team that plays a certain way, while Secret plays a completely different way. It was Secret's mistake to go for Arteezy when they already had solid middle and off players.


Winning Shanghai doesn't erase the prior months--they clearly had a lot of issues with the previous lineup
Book of Funn1k, 3:22 "YOU RUINED MY LIFE AND NOW YOU TALK ABOUT 0-7 TUSK?? I would so fuckin Walrus Punch you that you will get stunned for 1 year."
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
April 22 2016 08:41 GMT
#504
On April 22 2016 17:40 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 17:35 atrox_ wrote:
What an Empire performance. Universe is trash without PPD apparently


He went to TI2 with Maelk. And TI3 with Dignitas. Don't overplay a bad series.

But Universe became a star when ppd took the reign, so..
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
April 22 2016 08:41 GMT
#505
On April 22 2016 17:38 Azarkon wrote:
It's not even Universe's fault. He is used to playing with a team that plays a certain way, while Secret plays a completely different way. It was Secret's mistake to go for Arteezy when they already had solid middle and off players.

According to EE's interview, Universe is learning from him the new way.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-22 08:42:20
April 22 2016 08:41 GMT
#506
On April 22 2016 17:40 turpentine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 17:38 Azarkon wrote:
It's not even Universe's fault. He is used to playing with a team that plays a certain way, while Secret plays a completely different way. It was Secret's mistake to go for Arteezy when they already had solid middle and off players.


Winning Shanghai doesn't erase the prior months--they clearly had a lot of issues with the previous lineup


The only problem I've heard was that their middle player does not agree with Puppey from time to time.
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
April 22 2016 08:41 GMT
#507
On April 22 2016 17:38 Azarkon wrote:
It's not even Universe's fault. He is used to playing with a team that plays a certain way, while Secret plays a completely different way. It was Secret's mistake to go for Arteezy when they already had solid middle and off players.


We'll know if it was a mistake after TI.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
April 22 2016 08:42 GMT
#508
maybe RTZ just want to revenge cause he want his money
6nnn
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
April 22 2016 08:43 GMT
#509
On April 22 2016 17:41 Alpino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 17:38 Azarkon wrote:
It's not even Universe's fault. He is used to playing with a team that plays a certain way, while Secret plays a completely different way. It was Secret's mistake to go for Arteezy when they already had solid middle and off players.


We'll know if it was a mistake after TI.

Secret might not even get invited, if they don't improve radically before Manila.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
April 22 2016 08:43 GMT
#510
On April 22 2016 17:40 TanGeng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 17:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
On April 22 2016 17:36 Squat wrote:
It seems like the very fabric of the Universe has turned against secret, and the tide has finally turned. At this point, this game is kind of like watching someone kick a puppy. Closing this game out should be as easy as pie, you might even say.

Let yourself out, bro.

Hey. Don't show him the door. We need a bad pun guy.

I'll take up that mantle, so others won't have to. I'll be the hero you need, but not the one you deserve, or necessarily want for that matter.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
April 22 2016 08:43 GMT
#511
Universe definitely just missed spells but at the same time he was rarely in a position where there was an easy button to be pressed that would lead to Secret accomplishing something. Felt to me like Secret was very hesitant to do stuff, and whenever they tried some smokes they were rather difficult to pull off. Wasn't really a particular player problem but an issue with what you do as a team. And both drafts were also such that Secret couldn't afford to have it go even like that.
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
April 22 2016 08:43 GMT
#512
On April 22 2016 17:41 Racket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 17:38 Azarkon wrote:
It's not even Universe's fault. He is used to playing with a team that plays a certain way, while Secret plays a completely different way. It was Secret's mistake to go for Arteezy when they already had solid middle and off players.

According to EE's interview, Universe is learning from him the new way.


Doesn't seem to be working. PPD > EE way
Getting too old for this..
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 22 2016 08:43 GMT
#513
We can probably start talking about the problem that Puppey is going to have to work out: Arteezy takes up a LOT of farm. EE takes up a LOT of farm. ppd finally solved this problem, partially due to the meta, by playing a 1/3/3/3/5 system. Their only major mistake was not banning Nature's Prophet at Shanghai.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 22 2016 08:43 GMT
#514
On April 22 2016 17:43 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 17:41 Alpino wrote:
On April 22 2016 17:38 Azarkon wrote:
It's not even Universe's fault. He is used to playing with a team that plays a certain way, while Secret plays a completely different way. It was Secret's mistake to go for Arteezy when they already had solid middle and off players.


We'll know if it was a mistake after TI.

Secret might not even get invited, if they don't improve radically before Manila.

Secret would need to like, embarrassingly bomb out of every single tournament. Even then, they might still be a lock from Shanghai depending on how many invites go for TI
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
April 22 2016 08:44 GMT
#515
On April 22 2016 17:43 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 17:41 Alpino wrote:
On April 22 2016 17:38 Azarkon wrote:
It's not even Universe's fault. He is used to playing with a team that plays a certain way, while Secret plays a completely different way. It was Secret's mistake to go for Arteezy when they already had solid middle and off players.


We'll know if it was a mistake after TI.

Secret might not even get invited, if they don't improve radically before Manila.

Like how they lost just about every series after Frankfurt and won Shanghai anyway.

One series...pfft
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 22 2016 08:44 GMT
#516
On April 22 2016 17:43 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 17:41 Alpino wrote:
On April 22 2016 17:38 Azarkon wrote:
It's not even Universe's fault. He is used to playing with a team that plays a certain way, while Secret plays a completely different way. It was Secret's mistake to go for Arteezy when they already had solid middle and off players.


We'll know if it was a mistake after TI.

Secret might not even get invited, if they don't improve radically before Manila.


Secret is locked for Manila and TI6.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 22 2016 08:44 GMT
#517
This is what Ramzes can do with a keyboard, guys.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
April 22 2016 08:44 GMT
#518
It sounded like the old secret would have needed 1437 full time coaching to suppress all the team tensions.

What they did to w33 though near the deadline. Just cold
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atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1711 Posts
April 22 2016 08:45 GMT
#519
On April 22 2016 17:40 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 17:35 atrox_ wrote:
What an Empire performance. Universe is trash without PPD apparently


He went to TI2 with Maelk. And TI3 with Dignitas. Don't overplay a bad series.


yeah and out in LR2 of both. What is there to overplay? Turns out he's good with a certain captain that he left...
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
April 22 2016 08:45 GMT
#520
PPD usually brings the best out of of anyone in his team ,except rtz . what we are seeing might be the result of multiple egos gathering in the team in secret
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
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