[Shanghai Major] Group Stage Day 2 - Page 75
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
These guys are supposed to be professional athletes. Time to start acting like it. | ||
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maze.
Germany1392 Posts
On February 26 2016 21:20 Koshi wrote: When will the next match start? Draft is live. | ||
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MaCRo.gg
Korea (South)860 Posts
On February 26 2016 21:09 haduken wrote: lets not forget the fact it's NOT chinese new year but rather lunar new year which both Malay and Korea also celebrate. Korea is more removed from the lunar calendar than China is. Korea's biggest religion is Christianity so generally people take time off to celebrate during the Christmas time which usually doesn't leave them much vacation days for lunar new years. From what I heard about how China celebrates, they make a much bigger deal about it than we do. | ||
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uriel-
Singapore1867 Posts
On February 26 2016 21:07 nanaoei wrote: ? chinese new year is done. unless you mean it impeded on practice, which it really shouldn't. it's literally one weekend that not everybody observes. Do you know much about living in china? The celebrations last like half a month and people have like a week off to go back to their families and not work in general. I'm not sure CNY is a good enough reason for how shit the chinese teams have been, but it couldn't have helped. | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
On February 26 2016 21:23 Squat wrote: Sometimes you have holiday on your holiday. Considering Asians are typically incredible hardworking, it is hard to fault them for spending a small period of time with family at a time that honors just that. There are plenty of athletes in western countries who practice/work/compete over christmas or new years eve. Taking an entire month or several weeks off when you know there is a major competition just around the corner is both unprofessional and immature. I've spent plenty of red days with my nose buried in assorted course material, because that's what I had to do to get a decent grade. These guys are supposed to be professional athletes. Time to start acting like it. It is not like the 10 week summer holidays you have in Sweden, when at school, or the 5 weeks paid vacation. I doubt that this short period of time hindered them. In fact it can often be quite good to have a bit of rest, after training hard. | ||
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MaCRo.gg
Korea (South)860 Posts
On February 26 2016 21:23 Squat wrote: There are plenty of athletes in western countries who practice/work/compete over christmas or new years eve. Taking an entire month or several weeks off when you know there is a major competition just around the corner is both unprofessional and immature. I've spent plenty of red days with my nose buried in assorted course material, because that's what I had to do to get a decent grade. These guys are supposed to be professional athletes. Time to start acting like it. This holiday is more like Christmas, New years, birthday, thanksgiving rolled into one event. There are fewer paid holidays in China than in the "west". All these "no excuse" posts straight up lack perspective, showing lack of maturity and depth in the poster. | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On February 26 2016 21:31 nayumi wrote: Chinese New Year or not, they should have known better that Western teams have been shitting on Chinese dota pretty hard for the past months and a Major on their home turf is nothing but a huge chance for Chinese dota to redeem themselves ... so i don't buy the whole holiday bullshit, it's either lack of professionalism, motivation or sheer skill ... actually a combination of all, depending on the team. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On February 26 2016 21:33 MaCRo.gg wrote: This holiday is more like Christmas, New years, birthday, thanksgiving rolled into one event. There are fewer paid holidays in China than in the "west". All these "no excuse" posts straight up lack perspective, showing lack of maturity and depth in the poster. The "no excuse" posts show none of that. They show the reality of the situation. If the Chinese teams knew they'd have 7-10 days off in the near term before the Major, they should have had their preparation done before CNY and then just gotten back into practice after the break. They still had a week. All of the Chinese teams have shown almost no preparation for the teams they were playing against. Their drafts have been terrible. That's wholly down to planning for the event itself. | ||
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shad2810
Malaysia2682 Posts
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MaCRo.gg
Korea (South)860 Posts
On February 26 2016 21:38 Taf the Ghost wrote: The "no excuse" posts show none of that. They show the reality of the situation. If the Chinese teams knew they'd have 7-10 days off in the near term before the Major, they should have had their preparation done before CNY and then just gotten back into practice after the break. They still had a week. All of the Chinese teams have shown almost no preparation for the teams they were playing against. Their drafts have been terrible. That's wholly down to planning for the event itself. Yeah instead of trying to understand their cultural holiday and why it has such a big impact on their lives, lets just mock it. | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On February 26 2016 21:33 MaCRo.gg wrote: This holiday is more like Christmas, New years, birthday, thanksgiving rolled into one event. There are fewer paid holidays in China than in the "west". All these "no excuse" posts straight up lack perspective, showing lack of maturity and depth in the poster. Must be very convenient to be able to simply dismiss any dissent on the subject as being born of a lack of maturity and depth. I am perfectly open to the argument, but the random insults make it far less compelling. I maintain that taking time off is a personal choice. As a pro player your schedule will largely be determined by tournament dates rather than a standard 9-5 week. Sometimes they overlap or conflict with holidays. That sucks. It's still not a valid excuse. edit: Your posts seem very defensive. If you are more familiar with this particular holiday than us, how about simply explaining why it's so important rather than throwing around snide comments that don't really help anything? | ||
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sunrazgriz
Vatican City State1573 Posts
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On February 26 2016 21:42 MaCRo.gg wrote: Yeah instead of trying to understand their cultural holiday and why it has such a big impact on their lives, lets just mock it. Sure if its more important than doing well in a 3 million dollars tournament on your home ground in front of millions fans than im pretty sure they made the right choice... | ||
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uriel-
Singapore1867 Posts
On February 26 2016 21:42 Squat wrote: Must be very convenient to be able to simply dismiss any dissent on the subject as being born of a lack of maturity and depth. I am perfectly open to the argument, but the random insults make it far less compelling. I maintain that taking time off is a personal choice. As a pro player your schedule will largely be determined by tournament dates rather than a standard 9-5 week. Sometimes they overlap or conflict with holidays. That sucks. It's still not a valid excuse. edit: Your posts seem very defensive. If you are more familiar with this particular holiday than us, how about simply explaining why it's so important rather than throwing around snide comments that don't really help anything? Chinese people take a week off for chinese new year and travel back to their family homes. It's just what happens. What you are "maintaining" is based on your own lack of understanding of a foreign culture. The chinese new year break is far more than the average holiday. That being said, I do agree that it is not a good enough reason for how badly they have sucked so far. | ||
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MaCRo.gg
Korea (South)860 Posts
On February 26 2016 21:42 Squat wrote: Must be very convenient to be able to simply dismiss any dissent on the subject as being born of a lack of maturity and depth. I am perfectly open to the argument, but the random insults make it far less compelling. I maintain that taking time off is a personal choice. As a pro player your schedule will largely be determined by tournament dates rather than a standard 9-5 week. Sometimes they overlap or conflict with holidays. That sucks. It's still not a valid excuse. edit: Your posts seem very defensive. If you are more familiar with this particular holiday than us, how about simply explaining why it's so important rather than throwing around snide comments that don't really help anything? Starts calling Chinese players immature and unprofessional then gets upset about being called out for lacking maturity. smh | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On February 26 2016 21:42 Squat wrote: Must be very convenient to be able to simply dismiss any dissent on the subject as being born of a lack of maturity and depth. I am perfectly open to the argument, but the random insults make it far less compelling. I maintain that taking time off is a personal choice. As a pro player your schedule will largely be determined by tournament dates rather than a standard 9-5 week. Sometimes they overlap or conflict with holidays. That sucks. It's still not a valid excuse. edit: Your posts seem very defensive. If you are more familiar with this particular holiday than us, how about simply explaining why it's so important rather than throwing around snide comments that don't really help anything? in this case its not a personal choice but a family choice. of course they couldve spent some time on dota at home but typically the chinese teams are pretty lazy when they want to be. | ||
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