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syw651
Australia349 Posts
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On January 27 2016 19:03 syw651 wrote: Yup, TI4 VG is definitely back. Including that part where they can't seem to handle Newbee for some unknowable reason... In their defense, newbee has been playing well during those last weeks. | ||
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EmilA
Denmark4618 Posts
On January 27 2016 18:51 OuchyDathurts wrote: Twitch sucked for a long time in EU but they've gotten a ton better haven't they? I certainly don't hear the constant bitching about it anymore. Twitch really does need some competition. Unfortunately every other streaming service that has ever come out has been a gigantic joke so they end up with no competition at all. I fear like at this point the only way to get some legitimate competition for Twitch is for Google to just say "fuck it" and go all in at any cost and dump like a billion dollars into youtube streaming. Someone needs to throw STUPIDDDDDDD money at the situation to make a dent. But to me it does not appear like Twitch are abusing their monopoly to a degree where viewers suffer, so I dont think theres room for competition until they start forcing us off adblockers or the like | ||
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syw651
Australia349 Posts
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CxWiLL
China830 Posts
On January 27 2016 19:05 nojok wrote: In their defense, newbee has been playing well during those last weeks. According to sgamers. newbee 1-1 with every opponent they met. And they alway lose game 1. | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On January 27 2016 19:03 syw651 wrote: Yup, TI4 VG is definitely back. Including that part where they can't seem to handle Newbee for some unknowable reason... The ti4 reason would be newbee being a much better team | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On January 27 2016 18:56 Super_Style wrote: S4 and Buldog said that crit was the mvp of the 2nd game. He got 2 stun/silence combos on more than 1 hero twice, from what I saw. But he whiffed a lot and got almost nothing done via roaming. OG got murdered in the laning phase in both games. If Invoker + Nyx + Oracle don't shut down Universe for a while, they don't get a prayer to get to the late game. So while I respect the guys, I'm really not sure what they were seeing. Granted, N0tail was feed-central for a long while. | ||
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syw651
Australia349 Posts
On January 27 2016 19:07 CxWiLL wrote: According to sgamers. newbee 1-1 with every opponent they met. And they alway lose game 1. An optimist would say they always win one game :D (Or a pessimist who's rooting for VG) | ||
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
On January 27 2016 19:06 EmilA wrote: But to me it does not appear like Twitch are abusing their monopoly to a degree where viewers suffer, so I dont think theres room for competition until they start forcing us off adblockers or the like They haven't been abusing their power, but they also haven't been innovating at all. Not abusing power is cool, but stagnation isn't. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On January 27 2016 19:06 EmilA wrote: But to me it does not appear like Twitch are abusing their monopoly to a degree where viewers suffer, so I dont think theres room for competition until they start forcing us off adblockers or the like A significantly better alternative would be jumped to almost instantly, but now that Twitch is part of Amazon, it is unlikely someone would throw enough money at it. Google, these days, eats up companies for Tech/Patents, but generally can't do anything useful with copy-cat ideas. Google+, anyone? | ||
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
On January 27 2016 18:47 Kipsate wrote: It is not without reason, even if they bounce back. It is a general problem that PPD is the "You learn a book from defeats"-incarnate, rather than knowing beforehand.People are always so worried for absolutely no reason when EG loses in groupstage. PPD is a great analyst, but not very innovative, and it is not uncommon it is the skill of the team that has to carry it to victory by 2-1 wins. | ||
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Furikawari
France2522 Posts
On January 27 2016 19:07 Taf the Ghost wrote: He got 2 stun/silence combos on more than 1 hero twice, from what I saw. But he whiffed a lot and got almost nothing done via roaming. OG got murdered in the laning phase in both games. If Invoker + Nyx + Oracle don't shut down Universe for a while, they don't get a prayer to get to the late game. So while I respect the guys, I'm really not sure what they were seeing. Granted, N0tail was feed-central for a long while. Same here. During that game I was thinking that I didnt see a such low impact ES for weeks... Definetly not ban material against OG if Cr1t played it to its max potential. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On January 27 2016 19:08 OuchyDathurts wrote: They haven't been abusing their power, but they also haven't been innovating at all. Not abusing power is cool, but stagnation isn't. Yeah this, they don't abuse anything they don't mess anything up. They are just very slow at bringing out updated twitch player etc. They afaik (reddit was source for this) had 1 person coding the HTML5 player which they are going to replace flash player twitch with, which afaik is still not happened yet. What they do with their staff i do not know but atm it still hybrid flash and html player which is poor considering they should have jumped to that change ages ago. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On January 27 2016 19:09 Dracolich70 wrote: It is not without reason, even if they bounce back. It is a general problem that PPD is the "You learn a book from defeats"-incarnate, rather than knowing beforehand. PPD is a great analysist, but not very innovative, and it is not uncommon it is the skill of the team that has to carry it to victory by 2-1 wins. Did u know what OG where going to play like in this patch? I surely didn't and im sure no one else did unless scrim results were leaked. This is there first showing on this patch lol. Not disregarding what you are saying in general, clearly PPD learns how to counter after a defeat or learns more. However you can't use that vs OG when they were probably drafting against them based on the previous patch. | ||
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bluzi
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
On January 27 2016 19:11 Pandemona wrote: Yeah this, they don't abuse anything they don't mess anything up. They are just very slow at bringing out updated twitch player etc. They afaik (reddit was source for this) had 1 person coding the HTML5 player which they are going to replace flash player twitch with, which afaik is still not happened yet. What they do with their staff i do not know but atm it still hybrid flash and html player which is poor considering they should have jumped to that change ages ago. I'm pretty sure the HTML5 player has been literal years in the making. VODs are still a dumpster fire. Something like a DVR system would be cool, I think 2GD suggested that years ago but nothing has happened. The frontpage is a joke, the website sucks for discovery, viewbotting is actually rewarded, they apply ToS rules completely arbitrarily. I really do like Twitch I just wish they had a fire under their ass and were looking to keep pushing the envelope innovation wise. | ||
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Sassback
United States718 Posts
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syw651
Australia349 Posts
I've been trying to work out what her accent is, cause it's so different from what I'm used to hearing on the internet. It's embarrassing how long it took for me to work it out. | ||
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Furikawari
France2522 Posts
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