[Shanghai Major] AM Qualifiers Playoffs Day 1

On January 10 2016 03:18 Voronoff wrote:
Anyone else think this tiebreaker is ridiculous? Just flip a coin.

On January 10 2016 05:15 Verniy wrote:
Lone Druid Beastmaster Zeus
DC going for the facial hair strat

On January 10 2016 05:39 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Shazam is playing like they're terrified of a 5v5 or a 3v3 with DC...I don't get it

On January 10 2016 06:50 plasmidghost wrote:
Hoping for Archon to beat this fake NA team

On January 10 2016 07:19 Talin wrote:
monkeys has a cheese, moo has immediate respawn and jeyo has aegis

let's see how this can go wrong

On January 10 2016 07:22 Spicy_Curry wrote:
monkeys just used cheese -.-

On January 10 2016 07:22 Emnjay808 wrote:

dude chill, he was hungry.

On January 10 2016 07:25 FuzzyJAM wrote:
It's fine. Archon still can't lose. Surely.

On January 10 2016 07:48 Kipsate wrote:
why does this Dusa not have BB 80 minutes ingame

Why does this Dusa not have a Moon Shard

On January 10 2016 07:43 Spicy_Curry wrote:
monkeys is actually awful

On January 10 2016 07:52 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wait, did really jeyo go Linkens Manta Skadi!?

On January 10 2016 07:53 Kipsate wrote:
tfw u dont have bb but the enemy thinks ur not stupid so you must have bb and so they don't dare to push.

On January 10 2016 07:53 Asha wrote:
Can we nominate this series to become a bo1? I'm not sure I can handle another game (or gods forbid 2) =D

On January 10 2016 07:55 Orome wrote:
when you're an 8-slotted timber with no boots and refresher scythe dagon 5, you know your team's heavy as fuck

On January 10 2016 07:56 HammerKick wrote:


what's even the point of refresher except for double scythe, your cs are so low

On January 10 2016 07:56 HammerKick wrote:


what's even the point of refresher except for double scythe, your cs are so low

On January 10 2016 07:57 lolfail9001 wrote:

Double dagon, d'uh

On January 10 2016 08:03 Gear 3rd wrote:
Wait this game is still not over?? Im on my way home so i only read the lr thread here

On January 10 2016 08:07 Talin wrote:
I actually want this to continue for like 30 minutes now

On January 10 2016 08:07 Zenmx wrote:
Late game dota when game is even is such a farce. Pushing just so dangerous game goes on forever. Need to increase roshan advantage more as game goes on.

On January 10 2016 08:07 lolfail9001 wrote:

There is no ultra late roshan advantage at all cause no slots.

On January 10 2016 08:07 lolfail9001 wrote:

There is no ultra late roshan advantage at all cause no slots.

On January 10 2016 08:10 Daray wrote:
Draw? How about go do something.

On January 10 2016 08:10 HammerKick wrote:
has there ever been a draw in dota 2, like it happened in sc2?

On January 10 2016 08:12 lolfail9001 wrote:
Limpp/Chessie/Handsken are in Sweden, right?

On January 10 2016 08:14 BadAim wrote:
Fuck me, Dusa did nothing with all that damage.

On January 10 2016 08:14 lolfail9001 wrote:

Static link tho.

With that said, Dusa without bkb is sad thing to view in lategame.

On January 10 2016 08:14 Spicy_Curry wrote:
actually dusa also stood in wall and kept spawning images of herself so yea...

On January 10 2016 08:16 Jinxed wrote:
This game is awful and I feel bad for anyone that has watched it up to this point (like myself). Oh my god, I can't stand shazaam, but neither of these teams should go to Shanghai.

On January 10 2016 08:16 Jinxed wrote:
This game is awful and I feel bad for anyone that has watched it up to this point (like myself). Oh my god, I can't stand shazaam, but neither of these teams should go to Shanghai.

On January 10 2016 08:19 Verniy wrote:

disqualify coL and archon for passive play
disqualify shazam because ritsu
give EU a third qualifier spot

On January 10 2016 08:19 Verniy wrote:

disqualify coL and archon for passive play
disqualify shazam because ritsu
give EU a third qualifier spot

On January 10 2016 08:21 Kuroeeah wrote:
an official valve sanctioned bathroom break.

On January 10 2016 08:20 Diavlo wrote:
I mean what is the end game here?
Archon wouldn't push highground with a rapier Dusa with aegis against a no bb darkseer. How are they going to be better off now?

On January 10 2016 08:26 Moobutt wrote:

I think the win condition for both teams at this point is:

1- killing the enemy's cores without losing your own
2- forcing buybacks on all those cores (easy as walking down a lane towards enemy base then leaving)
3- killing those cores again w/ buyback down

The problem is that condition 1 requires no trades in core deaths, which is so fucking unlikely at 111 minutes. If either team has cores w/o buyback, they'll avoid engaging in fights.

With both teams having the same strategy, shit gets weird

On January 10 2016 08:29 Stancel wrote:
so there's a 2 hour long game and timbersaw is 7k ahead of dusa and 14k ahead of invoker

what

On January 10 2016 08:28 Diavlo wrote:

Yes but if Archon isn't willing to try and fight in the conditions I mentioned, what are the conditions they are waiting for?
Or are they just waiting for Col to get to their high-ground?

On January 10 2016 08:32 Moobutt wrote:

Both teams are waiting for the other team to make a mistake. Can't say I honestly blame them.

At this point, you also have to consider morale. Losing a 2 hour game might just mean auto-lose on game 2 from tilting players.

On January 10 2016 08:32 lolfail9001 wrote:
I was praying col would go bait buyback from Fluff.

On January 10 2016 08:37 Aerisky wrote:
what's the longest game on record again?

On January 10 2016 08:39 Zeelah wrote:
Finally Heart,an item that will change the game.Razor can now push

On January 10 2016 08:41 Moobutt wrote:
Col could honestly walk into Radiant base and fight them and win at this point. Buyback advantage.

On January 10 2016 08:45 ASoo wrote:
WHO NEEDS DUSA AT 130 MINUTES WHEN YOU HAVE TIMBERSAW WITH DAGON.

On January 10 2016 07:25 FuzzyJAM wrote:
It's fine. Archon still can't lose. Surely.

On January 10 2016 08:40 lolfail9001 wrote:

Not really, he can't get out once he commits.

On January 10 2016 08:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
And notice: Medusa was not in any way useful this game.

On January 10 2016 08:46 Asha wrote:
Possibly the worst game of Dota ever

On January 10 2016 08:46 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:

everyone overestimated how important she was

that was the key to col losing

On January 10 2016 08:50 Diavlo wrote:
So at different points of the game Medusa had, Manta, Butterfly, MKB, Skadi, Deadalus, Moonshard, Rapier.
But no bkb...

On January 10 2016 08:48 Kuroeeah wrote:

yeah, the key to winning against the team Jeyo is playing on is to not overestimate his importance despite having all the time in the world to get your items.

On January 10 2016 08:50 lolfail9001 wrote:

Bbbbbbbut muh stats.

On January 10 2016 08:52 Kuroeeah wrote:
how is monkey's a god that game? he was just running around doing typical invoker shit while moo was doing everything.

On January 10 2016 08:52 Kuroeeah wrote:
how is monkey's a god that game? he was just running around doing typical invoker shit while moo was doing everything.

On January 10 2016 08:52 Diavlo wrote:

If you think about it, with a bkb you don't get hit by unstable current so that's a 100 AS right there

On January 10 2016 08:52 Kuroeeah wrote:
how is monkey's a god that game? he was just running around doing typical invoker shit while moo was doing everything.

On January 10 2016 08:52 lolfail9001 wrote:

Well, his last contributions were decent.

On January 10 2016 08:53 Asha wrote:


I'm pretty sure it was sarcasm

On January 10 2016 08:53 lolfail9001 wrote:

You don't get hit by unstable current if you just don't target snake on razor, so i would not say that counts.

On January 10 2016 08:55 Kuroeeah wrote:

no, moo actually did play a god timber and was mvp. watching monkeys not cast alacrity on jeyo in fights and shit was something else.

On January 10 2016 08:59 Diavlo wrote:


It doesn't work on the snake bounces, just on the first hit?

Well at least I learned something from this game. Not a complete loss

On January 10 2016 08:59 Diavlo wrote:


It doesn't work on the snake bounces, just on the first hit?

Well at least I learned something from this game. Not a complete loss

On January 10 2016 09:06 Talin wrote:
Archon already securing lategame

On January 10 2016 09:09 lolfail9001 wrote:

I feel 15 minute stomp.

On January 10 2016 09:18 Verniy wrote:
i don't get the point of picking slardar+venge with gyro+ember
slardar+venge want to focus people down and deal with one person at a time
gyro+ember just want to kill everything at once
also ember can get out of trouble just fine on his own, and if he can't then swap probably won't save him anyway
unless i'm missing something?

On January 10 2016 09:18 Verniy wrote:
i don't get the point of picking slardar+venge with gyro+ember
slardar+venge want to focus people down and deal with one person at a time
gyro+ember just want to kill everything at once
also ember can get out of trouble just fine on his own, and if he can't then swap probably won't save him anyway
unless i'm missing something?

On January 10 2016 09:43 mutantmagnet wrote:
How is this possible? I went shopping at the grocery store for an hour and a half and Archon vs Complexity haven't even finished their second game? Did Medusa become Perfect Medusa? Did Dark Seer and Tiny learn how to do the fusion dance?

On January 10 2016 09:43 mutantmagnet wrote:
How is this possible? I went shopping at the grocery store for an hour and a half and Archon vs Complexity haven't even finished their second game? Did Medusa become Perfect Medusa? Did Dark Seer and Tiny learn how to do the fusion dance?

On January 10 2016 09:44 lolfail9001 wrote:

Game was won when Medusa was dead.

I am not even joking, game was actually won by Archon when their dusa was in tavern without buyback.

On January 10 2016 09:46 mutantmagnet wrote:



Thanks for the hearty laugh. I hope NoobfromUA does a highlight video because I can't stomach watching what led up to that scenario.

On January 10 2016 09:44 lolfail9001 wrote:

Game was won when Medusa was dead.

I am not even joking, game was actually won by Archon when their dusa was in tavern without buyback.

On January 10 2016 09:47 Kuroeeah wrote:

there's nothing even spectacular about the game or a single clowny moment. it was just both teams being afraid of losing.

On January 10 2016 09:48 misirlou wrote:

now that I think about it, game winning play was dusa die backing to bait col into pushing. If she saved the BB they would just back too afraid of it like they did that one time she didn't have it (and that was at 80 mins IIRC)


except for the particles XD

On January 10 2016 09:50 lolfail9001 wrote:

Dusa did not have buyback back then because she HAD (or so Jeyo thought) to buyback to defend, not because she had choice.

On January 10 2016 10:02 misirlou wrote:

I was under the impression that she was short on gold and not on cooldown, might be wrong though