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tehh4ck3r
Magrathea7061 Posts
The Summit 4 | Official SiteDota BeyondTheSummit | Dota2ruhubFun BeyondTheSummit2Evil GeniusesTeam LiquidOGMineskiVici Gaming EHOMEDigital Chaos Virtus.ProStarts in: Day 5 Games Virtus.Pro vs. Vici Gaming Evil Geniuses vs. TBD | ||
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maximrobi
Hungary347 Posts
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SatsuinoHado
Bulgaria777 Posts
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goody153
44236 Posts
Poll: Who will face U S A in the climatic final battle ? Russia (7) China (2) 9 total votes Your vote: Who will face U S A in the climatic final battle ? it's gonna be china vs murica or russia vs murica one will make azarkon right, the other wil probably make him left(if VG wins hehe) | ||
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Verniy
Canada3360 Posts
and VP have never won a series against VG  | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
VP is going to go all the way. FNG got the drafts figured out and the individual skill and teamplay is definitely there for VP. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
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Pyrthas
United States3196 Posts
Also, Slacks casting on the last day, come on, ugh. | ||
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wooozy
3813 Posts
o slacks is there | ||
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Deckard_Cain
493 Posts
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Pyrthas
United States3196 Posts
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
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Angeloidus
Russian Federation251 Posts
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wooozy
3813 Posts
On December 14 2015 03:08 DwD wrote: Anyone else feel like this tournament has been really drawn out? 5 days is kinda long if you wanna watch it all pretty sure that's what summit goes for every time. mega chill tournament/environment so players can lounge around and play other games or go visit the typical sites around LA | ||
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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Verniy
Canada3360 Posts
series already off to a good start | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
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Verniy
Canada3360 Posts
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nomel
115 Posts
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On December 14 2015 03:20 Verniy wrote: why earthshock first instead of fury swipes? Better for lvl1 fights. | ||
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
On December 14 2015 03:20 Verniy wrote: why earthshock first instead of fury swipes? W is underwhelming without E, and E makes no sense if you can't hit, and your only lockdown was shard. Most for the time you get shock because it's the spell that allows you to teamfight early on. | ||
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
supports will melt in two seconds | ||
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
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Kreb
4834 Posts
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Pyrthas
United States3196 Posts
On December 14 2015 03:20 nomel wrote: Wish they had players from the teams casting again. Loved hearing their insights and explanations. Kotlguy is not needed. My guess is that it's just too early in the day for that, and that we'll get players casting later. This started at 10am, and I'm betting that there aren't too many players who are getting to the house that early. | ||
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dutchfriese
2554 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On December 14 2015 03:25 the bear jew wrote: Offlane abba...love how shit is now crazy with picks at end of patch. Hope some of it stays, carry venge and offlane abba. There's a 7500 MMR guy on US West that only plays offlane Abaddon and Omni and all the pros were pubbing and getting matched up against this guy, and were like "Okay this seems legit let's try it out" | ||
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
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wooozy
3813 Posts
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Pyrthas
United States3196 Posts
On December 14 2015 03:25 dutchfriese wrote: do they plan on uploading the stream (day 5) to past broadcasts? I don't see it yet. Not sure what you mean, but I see a past broadcast here that contains the first 80 minutes of today's cast, and presumably that will grow throughout the day (as they usually do on twitch). | ||
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On December 14 2015 03:27 TomatoBisque wrote: There's a 7500 MMR guy on US West that only plays offlane Abaddon and Omni and all the pros were pubbing and getting matched up against this guy, and were like "Okay this seems legit let's try it out" Lol love how that works. :D | ||
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goody153
44236 Posts
prove azarkon wrong | ||
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
On December 14 2015 03:27 TomatoBisque wrote: There's a 7500 MMR guy on US West that only plays offlane Abaddon and Omni and all the pros were pubbing and getting matched up against this guy, and were like "Okay this seems legit let's try it out" I remember some russian offlaners saying that they practiced their offlane brood with the top 1 dotabuff brood player who was russian and around 6k. | ||
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nomel
115 Posts
On December 14 2015 03:25 Pyrthas wrote: My guess is that it's just too early in the day for that, and that we'll get players casting later. This started at 10am, and I'm betting that there aren't too many players who are getting to the house that early. I didn't think about the local time, good point. I hope you're right! | ||
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Dysisa
Sweden2376 Posts
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goody153
44236 Posts
one of the most cancerous meta-hero in history .. the offlane void came from ixmike | ||
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Kyyuna
United States1222 Posts
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Zea!
9589 Posts
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On December 14 2015 03:30 HammerKick wrote: I remember some russian offlaners saying that they practiced their offlane brood with the top 1 dotabuff brood player who was russian and around 6k. Yeah The wannabe Naga build was also taken from pub players, and EE's PA build he used at MLG New Orleans was also taken from a guy he met in pubs | ||
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
On December 14 2015 03:32 TomatoBisque wrote: Yeah The wannabe Naga build was also taken from pub players, and EE's PA build he used at MLG New Orleans was also taken from a guy he met in pubs Wondering if people who play ench in pro are inspired by my guide and go urn aghs ? :3 as well as going 4-1-4 | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On December 14 2015 02:41 Verniy wrote: so if azarkon is right, EG can only lose if VG beat VP and VP have never won a series against VG It's the other way around. Americans are only able to lose to Russians. I win regardless of whether VG beats Virtus Pro but I get extra for them losing. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
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Dysisa
Sweden2376 Posts
On December 14 2015 03:34 Azarkon wrote: It's the other way around. Americans are only able to lose to Russians. OG is my favorite russian team. | ||
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dutchfriese
2554 Posts
On December 14 2015 03:28 Pyrthas wrote: Not sure what you mean, but I see a past broadcast here that contains the first 80 minutes of today's cast, and presumably that will grow throughout the day (as they usually do on twitch). Oh yeah woops. I should have realized that was todays despite the day 4 rebraodcast title. Thanks. | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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Kreb
4834 Posts
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Pyrthas
United States3196 Posts
On December 14 2015 03:35 dutchfriese wrote: Oh yeah woops. I should have realized that was todays despite the day 4 rebraodcast title. Thanks. Oh haha I didn't even see the title. Yeah that's confusing. | ||
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
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Xinder
United States2269 Posts
On December 14 2015 03:35 the bear jew wrote: VP on fire today. Really sad I have to leave for work now. I have to leave soon myself...on championship sunday. Sad day | ||
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
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kaztah
Norway1221 Posts
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
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Derity
Germany2952 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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Pyrthas
United States3196 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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goody153
44236 Posts
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On December 14 2015 03:38 Azarkon wrote: I find it inexplicable how high the Chinese rate undying. The hero is not bad but every game between Chinese and Western teams I see the hero on the Chinese team and it rarely does well. Don't OG tend to pick it in first phase | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On December 14 2015 03:39 TomatoBisque wrote: Don't OG tend to pick it in first phase It's like staple OG hero. | ||
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goody153
44236 Posts
On December 14 2015 03:39 TomatoBisque wrote: Don't OG tend to pick it in first phase I think secret did it too at one point. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On December 14 2015 03:39 TomatoBisque wrote: Don't OG tend to pick it in first phase I was about to write the same thing, he allows to play aggro or defend superior lategame line ups during the laning phase. I guess it's the idea behind almost every early pick, versatility. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On December 14 2015 03:39 TomatoBisque wrote: Don't OG tend to pick it in first phase They did, and they played it well. | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
zeus pick was fun to see but utterly useless | ||
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Thezzphai
Germany1145 Posts
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
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calippo
Sweden2525 Posts
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RuiBarbO
United States1340 Posts
Poll: Who has the best socks? Winter (invisible) (8) Godz (starry night) (1) KotlGuy (red and orange symbol??) (1) LD (black) (0) 10 total votes Your vote: Who has the best socks? (Vote): LD (black) | ||
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Pyrthas
United States3196 Posts
On December 14 2015 03:45 RuiBarbO wrote: Godz and KotlGuy both rocking interesting socks. Who has the best socks? the "red and orange symbol" is Mario, come on! | ||
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Latham
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wims80
1892 Posts
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goody153
44236 Posts
though i don't follow the team so i must have missed it | ||
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goody153
44236 Posts
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
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Verniy
Canada3360 Posts
the dream :D | ||
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goody153
44236 Posts
azarkon's gonna be right soon | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
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apes
United States826 Posts
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Derity
Germany2952 Posts
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goody153
44236 Posts
On December 14 2015 04:11 Asha wrote: the best thing the next patch can do is make gyrocopter go away I don't think the dude needs to be nerfed to go away. A shift in meta will make the dude go away | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On December 14 2015 04:12 apes wrote: super is getting dominated As we all know he would be. | ||
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goody153
44236 Posts
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goody153
44236 Posts
razor mid smh | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
gg lets go finals | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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1nobody
Czech Republic2040 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On December 14 2015 04:22 1nobody wrote: VG so bad All Chinese teams are. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
We got it China is terrible, no need to spam it every LR. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On December 14 2015 04:22 nojok wrote: We got it China is terrible, no need to spam it every LR. He loses his kids the second he stops talking how bad china is, feel for the guy. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On December 14 2015 04:22 nojok wrote: We got it China is terrible, no need to spam it every LR. But people keep saying they're back | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
no you're thinking of Alliance | ||
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goody153
44236 Posts
On December 14 2015 04:26 stuchiu wrote: No one except bulba said they're back. to be fair ppd also said that too | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On December 14 2015 04:26 stuchiu wrote: No one except bulba said they're back. So back at bulba's level? He's right if that's what he means. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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Verniy
Canada3360 Posts
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Pyrthas
United States3196 Posts
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apes
United States826 Posts
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1nobody
Czech Republic2040 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On December 14 2015 04:30 Azarkon wrote: I think Virtus Pro actually has a decent shot of taking PPD's team down. As good as VP are, the amount of failed highground fight they took is imrpessive. And it's not like other top teams who cut their loss after losing a core, they jsut get 5 men wipe with overwhelming lead. They would be the best team without comeback gold. | ||
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Gear 3rd
1244 Posts
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goody153
44236 Posts
I guess it's ok VP making it to the finals too .. It's very unusual though they are the team you'd expect to get top 4 at most in tournaments where most top teams are there and at least top 8-6 usually. This is their first finals in a topheavy tournament | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On December 14 2015 04:32 nojok wrote: As good as VP are, the amount of failed highground fight they took is imrpessive. And it's not like other top teams who cut their loss after losing a core, they jsut get 5 men wipe with overwhelming lead. They would be the best team without comeback gold. They don't have to go to base in that case. I hope they understand that. Of course, PPD's team is liable to pick split against them. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10830 Posts
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babysimba
10466 Posts
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Zea!
9589 Posts
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kaztah
Norway1221 Posts
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Pyrthas
United States3196 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On December 14 2015 04:33 Azarkon wrote: They don't have to go to base in that case. I hope they understand that. Of course, PPD's team is liable to pick split against them. Yeah, this match has a nice plot given the duality of their styles. Ez write up for the redactor. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On December 14 2015 04:32 nojok wrote: As good as VP are, the amount of failed highground fight they took is imrpessive. And it's not like other top teams who cut their loss after losing a core, they jsut get 5 men wipe with overwhelming lead. They would be the best team without comeback gold. have you seen eg's run though wasn't particularly clean either | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
are they starting the grand finals earlier? | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
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goody153
44236 Posts
On December 14 2015 04:35 Sbrubbles wrote: Damn, VP made VG look completely clueless this is like Empire vs VG pre-TI5 shit all over again guess silent has a huge input in this | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On December 14 2015 04:34 Azarkon wrote: Trashed the way a first tier team trashes a second tier team. I always knew OG are second tier team! | ||
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Derity
Germany2952 Posts
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Pyrthas
United States3196 Posts
On December 14 2015 04:35 HammerKick wrote: are they starting the grand finals earlier? LD was saying something about this towards the end of game 2, so yeah, it sounds like they'll push it up. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On December 14 2015 04:35 TheTenthDoc wrote: Wow. I might have had a sentimental attachment to Illidan VP, but it's pretty clear that leaving him behind was a good choice. Yeah, illidan His bad moments made his amazing games even more amazing. It was also cool to see him make so much progress during those last 3 years, I really hope he finds a good team again. | ||
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Zea!
9589 Posts
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
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1nobody
Czech Republic2040 Posts
On December 14 2015 04:37 Pyrthas wrote: LD was saying something about this towards the end of game 2, so yeah, it sounds like they'll push it up. but will artour be mentally ready? | ||
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Bongy
Denmark151 Posts
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Wineandbread
United States2065 Posts
wp VP, cheering for ya in the finals! | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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uthgard
2098 Posts
that was one fast series | ||
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Teton
France1656 Posts
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
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Pyrthas
United States3196 Posts
On December 14 2015 04:41 lolfail9001 wrote: Wait, so am i supposed to wait 2 hours for that? Nope, looks like you just have to wait an hour. | ||
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1nobody
Czech Republic2040 Posts
On December 14 2015 04:41 lolfail9001 wrote: Wait, so am i supposed to wait 2 hours for that? isnt it 1 hour? | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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1nobody
Czech Republic2040 Posts
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32746 Posts
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
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DV G
Argentina2339 Posts
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HammerKick
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On December 14 2015 04:43 Pyrthas wrote: Nope, looks like you just have to wait an hour. Ah, great, so shower time it is. | ||
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On December 14 2015 04:50 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: this game is terrible yeah but Liquid is winning at something at least not sure why no one is saying Phantasm tho | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
On December 14 2015 04:52 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: all right euros how do you not pick the word phantasm for chaos knight When I saw the password I was like "JERAX PLEASE SAY PHANTASM" | ||
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
please... | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On December 14 2015 04:55 hunter_x wrote: haha this game is awesome it rly picked up actually i take back my admonition its one of those games where half the fun is thinking that the contestants are idiots | ||
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On December 14 2015 04:56 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: it rly picked up actually i take back my admonition its one of those games where half the fun is thinking that the contestants are idiots It's like reality TV | ||
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On December 14 2015 04:58 HammerKick wrote: This one is hard as fuck yea wat if someone doesnt even play customs i havent played gem td and i wouldnt think of it i think | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Liquid just dominating xD | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
he didnt even say jacky | ||
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On December 14 2015 05:00 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: thats gotta be some sort of inside joke he didnt even say jacky EE's meme nickname is Jacky Lmao | ||
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
On December 14 2015 05:00 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: thats gotta be some sort of inside joke he didnt even say jacky He said lmao I think | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
no i mean like the hint was "lmao," but n0tail's guess was directly "eternalenvy" instead of "jacky" or something | ||
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
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yotsuna
Hong Kong186 Posts
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
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1nobody
Czech Republic2040 Posts
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On December 14 2015 05:33 HammerKick wrote: Meanwhile, an interview with a valve employee before 6.86! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3lbqXb56l8 It's locked even in Russia, what the joke is about | ||
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
On December 14 2015 05:37 lolfail9001 wrote: It's locked even in Russia, what the joke is about I have no fucking idea why it's locked in russia, the video literally came out this evening. Oh wait, it's blocked on LD but not on youtube, what the fuck Check it out here | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Full OG cast :D | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10664 Posts
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TheEmulator
28095 Posts
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
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Wineandbread
United States2065 Posts
OG cast hype | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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Emnjay808
United States10664 Posts
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United States2065 Posts
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Theoren
Canada810 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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DV G
Argentina2339 Posts
On December 14 2015 05:37 HammerKick wrote: I have no fucking idea why it's locked in russia, the video literally came out this evening. Oh wait, it's blocked on LD but not on youtube, what the fuck Check it out here I just realized i actually watched the real video long time before rofl. | ||
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
LIKE TYPING I'M WHEN | ||
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
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TheEmulator
28095 Posts
On December 14 2015 05:55 HammerKick wrote: THIS FAST IS SO DRAFT LIKE TYPING I'M WHEN what | ||
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
swap the words you'll understand | ||
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
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Emnjay808
United States10664 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32746 Posts
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Pyrthas
United States3196 Posts
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
On December 14 2015 05:56 HammerKick wrote: lil won't be able to do any big plays, you can't make big plays with bara except just bashing someone :D well there you go | ||
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Wineandbread
United States2065 Posts
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Canada32746 Posts
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On December 14 2015 06:05 PhoenixVoid wrote: VP is riding some nice momentum over the past four games and it applies still. or more accurately, VP started bringing their A-game, and EG has really yet to show theirs this tourney. | ||
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
G is getting fat though | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
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Emnjay808
United States10664 Posts
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On December 14 2015 06:09 Emnjay808 wrote: Fly is mediating this cast really fucking well. I am impressed, honestly. I think it was Tobi that has said when the pros start retiring, all current casters will be out of a job | ||
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
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Emnjay808
United States10664 Posts
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Canada32746 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22210 Posts
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lolfail9001
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shizaep
Canada2920 Posts
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uthgard
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
IS SO FUCKING GOOD ERGHOMIEROMIEGIMOEJGIMOERG | ||
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TomatoBisque
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Kreb
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kju
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
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Poorlilrich
Australia262 Posts
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On December 14 2015 06:19 Poorlilrich wrote: did he charge dazzle or qop there? He charged a creep wave iirc | ||
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On December 14 2015 06:23 TheYango wrote: OG casters dont know that carry Venge can't go Manta without bugging out Vengeance Aura on herself. Wait, what bugging out? When illusions die they apply death debuff to Venge!? | ||
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On December 14 2015 06:23 TheYango wrote: OG casters dont know that carry Venge can't go Manta without bugging out Vengeance Aura on herself. Don't tell me this shit is bugged | ||
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On December 14 2015 06:24 lolfail9001 wrote: Wait, what bugging out? When illusions die they apply death debuff to Venge!? It's a rather complex bug to explain with how auras are maintained from multiple sources. Basically if a hero receives an aura from two different sources, the second source to apply the aura doesn't create it's own instance of the aura, but rather just refreshes the existing instance of the aura provided by the first source. If the first source of the aura ceases to exist (usually only Illusions dying since dead heroes still "exist" but are hidden, but some edge cases also exist such as two HoD creeps providing the same aura and 1 of the dies), the second aura source still refreshes the first aura's buff, but the buff does nothing because it's original source is invalid. For anyone other than the source of the aura itself, they can leave the aura radius and re-enter and pick up a fresh instance of the aura and be fine. But for heroes that want to benefit from their own auras, this can be problematic because they can never leave the radius of their own aura and things that generate illusions can cause them to stop benefiting from their own aura until they die again. TL;DR Illusions/Aura interactions can cause Venge to lose the benefit of her own Vengeance Aura until she dies sometimes. | ||
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On December 14 2015 06:33 Verniy wrote: i don't know why you would just give away SF to VP like that tbh Because they also don't want to give them Slardar/Disruptor which they stomped OG and VG with | ||
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On December 14 2015 06:35 TomatoBisque wrote: Because they also don't want to give them Slardar/Disruptor which they stomped OG and VG with Was not SF a first phase though? Slardar-Disruptor were second-phase bans. | ||
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On December 14 2015 05:56 HammerKick wrote: lil won't be able to do any big plays, you can't make big plays with bara except just bashing someone :D yeah, well... that play against the euls qop... | ||
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On December 14 2015 06:36 lolfail9001 wrote: Was not SF a first phase though? Slardar-Disruptor were second-phase bans. EG's first phase bans were Slardar and Gyro | ||
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On December 14 2015 06:36 lolfail9001 wrote: Was not SF a first phase though? Slardar-Disruptor were second-phase bans. draft order was First Ban phase: EG ban Slardar+Gyro, VP ban Bane+Tusk First Pick phase: VP pick SF+Bara, EG pick QoP+Dazzle Second Ban phase: EG ban Disruptor+Visage, VP ban PL+WW Second Pick phase: EG pick Doom+Shaker, VP pick AA+DS Last Ban: EG ban WK, VP ban Jugg Last Pick: EG pick WR, VP pick VS | ||
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On December 14 2015 06:39 TomatoBisque wrote: EG's first phase bans were Slardar and Gyro Ah, damn, i forgot about Visage. Well, i suppose that's kinda tricky then. EG better bring their A game or start bringing some comeback line-ups because WR-QoP is not something that is good at playing from behind. | ||
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On December 14 2015 06:41 Stancel wrote: Did VG choke again No they got VP'd VP have won 5 games of dota in a row by just brute force smashy smashy. It's quite crazy | ||
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On December 14 2015 06:41 Stancel wrote: Did VG choke again I dunno if I'd call it a choke, VP stomped them but they also stomped OG and the EG game just now was very dominant as well | ||
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On December 14 2015 06:41 Stancel wrote: Did VG choke again I can't even call it a choke considering that VG did have more kills in their games than OG in previous series. VP is on roll for now, that's it. | ||
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wonder what happened edit: drow+visage gg | ||
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This just got real, and/or desperate. | ||
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I do not like this. This smells like desperation. Not even sumail can make storm a hero again, imo. | ||
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On December 14 2015 06:54 Belisarius wrote: And they even give away the disruptor in the end anyway. I do not like this. This smells like desperation. Not even sumail can make storm a hero again, imo. ??? he has though storm is a fine niche pick not that i think it's good enough here | ||
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are we running it back | ||
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That was about the only time in the whole tournament that "he was left" was actually funny. | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:01 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: wasnt summit 2 known as like the tourney that broke eg are we running it back EG placed 4th at summit 2, then RTZ left RTZ rejoins and EG are currently guaranteed top 2 at summit 4 illuminati confirmed | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:02 Belisarius wrote: rtz wasting a lot of time here. dude memes are never a waste of time | ||
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then I realized its not Illidan. | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:04 Kipsate wrote: At first I was like wtf this Illidan has a lot of points in cold ARrows then I realized its not Illidan. rip in shirley fenette | ||
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I was left | ||
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U S A haha nice fight! | ||
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And rtz is not. That was a lot of gold. | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:06 Belisarius wrote: OK Sumail is actually just broken. And rtz is not. That was a lot of gold. rtz is the broken boy tbh | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:09 Kipsate wrote: IS THIS EVEN DOTA? this is super dota | ||
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That charge straight over the rosh cliff was pretty nasty. Sumail clearly didn't expect VP to fight that. | ||
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Either way game is hard now. | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:10 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: think it was actually 6 for 5(bb) cuz uni never died? Nah, 5 for 5 (sumail dieback) | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:12 tyr wrote: OG are better casters than most of the "professional" dota casters. Not even joking. most people feel this way about most pro players in general | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:15 Spicy_Curry wrote: wow what happened to VP Silent > Illidan? | ||
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Sue him!! get him donald trump Savage cast xD | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:17 PhoenixVoid wrote: Davai for a clean 7-0 lower bracket win VP. Uhem, they still lost a game to Liquid. | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:17 Velr wrote: i get the feeling that we will see an SF ban next game... you mean disruptor, right? | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:18 Latham wrote: Get him Donald Trump! Holy shit i'm dying XD EG.PPD.Unstumpable | ||
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Suma1l has 9-6-6 KDA I think it's a sign | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:19 lolfail9001 wrote: Guys. Suma1l has 9-6-6 KDA I think it's a sign 3x 3-2-2, that's some crazy stuff 6-mango Visage build #1 | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:21 yotis wrote: get rekt, what a stomp This game was like the least stompy one in a while. For first 12 minutes. | ||
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"We'll be back like na'vi will be back" rofl | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:23 shizaep wrote: pros just basically shat on the new items I mean on the one hand it's not surprising that the people most invested in the game are the most resistant to change, but on the other the new items really are kind of stupid. Nice to see even the supports complaining about solar/glimmer lol. | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:22 Latham wrote: Rofl another savage swipe! "We'll be back like na'vi will be back" rofl I didn't catch that, lol! I might be actually tempted to change my flair based on OG's casting, not play. xD | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:25 nothingmuch wrote: Kinda mind blowing how those guys just sit down on that couch and blow any regular caster out of the water no contest. Yeah I've enjoyed this cast far more than some "proper caster" casts (outside this tournament) | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:24 Kabras wrote: eg got rolled. vp doesn't stop for anything, really awesome playstyle That entire top push for Rax starting from the T2 should be a highlight. Even OG was saying how going for anything else than the ranged Rax was greedy, but they outplay EG perfectly and get kill by kill and get away with a HUGE lead instead of backing early. | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:25 ThePianoDentist wrote: fuck. i ordered a pizza for 11pm....come on EG That's such a golden comment | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:25 nothingmuch wrote: Kinda mind blowing how those guys just sit down on that couch and blow any regular caster out of the water no contest. i think having more than 2 really helps. it means people can say stuff when they want, rather than having people forcing themselves to say things...often ending up with coming out with random stupid shit same in sc2. Im not sure why 2 casters is the default to be honest. | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:25 nothingmuch wrote: Kinda mind blowing how those guys just sit down on that couch and blow any regular caster out of the water no contest. I disagree, they did not hype well some well executed teamfights. They're better at filling the void with actual hindsight and interesting stuff (and don't give a shit about gold graph <3) but when the action is going on I find them really subpar. We obviously need a mix. | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:28 nojok wrote: I disagree, they did not hype well some well executed teamfights. They're better at filling the void with actual hindsight and interesting stuff (and don't give a shit about gold graph <3) but when the action is going on I find them really subpar. We obviously need a mix. plenty of people don't care at all for 'hype', myself included | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:25 nothingmuch wrote: Kinda mind blowing how those guys just sit down on that couch and blow any regular caster out of the water no contest. it's to be expected really, they've been in the games they're casting a lot of the times and we're getting their fpv on the game rather than hearing another spectator explain things which is what happens with regular casters. and they're infinitely danker, that's great too. | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:26 4mgg wrote: Yeah I've enjoyed this cast far more than some "proper caster" casts (outside this tournament) It's the same as with HSC in Starcraft (which this was modeled after). However, I feel like a large part of the attraction here is that it's so refreshingly different. If all casts were like this, I don't think people would like it as much and I think it's perfect to have one tournament where players do casual casts. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love it, but it would be a bit out of place during like TI finals. | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:28 nojok wrote: I disagree, they did not hype well some well executed teamfights. They're better at filling the void with actual hindsight and interesting stuff (and don't give a shit about gold graph <3) but when the action is going on I find them really subpar. We obviously need a mix. So basically Tobi, 3 player/experts and a Synderen. | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:28 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: plenty of people don't care at all for 'hype', myself included Yeah, I don't really need somebody to hype me up, but this cast would be better if they had somebody that could do play-by-play | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:27 ThePianoDentist wrote: i think having more than 2 really helps. it means people can say stuff when they want, rather than having people forcing themselves to say things...often ending up with coming out with random stupid shit same in sc2. Im not sure why 2 casters is the default to be honest. I'd assume trying to emulate "real" sports. | ||
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But yeah, not much hype, so not as good for you if you're into that. But even so, by not focusing on hype for fights, they get more analysis in, so it's still a tradeoff. | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:33 TomatoBisque wrote: is Puppey drafting for EG ppd and puppey are transatlantic long lost brothers tbh | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/u0sqCSO.gif) | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:27 ThePianoDentist wrote: i think having more than 2 really helps. it means people can say stuff when they want, rather than having people forcing themselves to say things...often ending up with coming out with random stupid shit same in sc2. Im not sure why 2 casters is the default to be honest. I think "play-by-player + colour comentator" is default in all kinds of sports, from football [the one you actually play with feet most of the time] to pro wrestling. Still, the way they banter with each other (esp. with Bulba) was cute <3 | ||
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Virtus Plow is a well-coined term from CS:GO. Casters use it all the time in that game. No controversies there. | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:34 Daralii wrote: Why. Why would you not ban SF AGAIN? PERFECT | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:34 Azarkon wrote: Pro players are the best at "fucking around" casts and creating memes such as making jokes about Donald Trump, Virtus Plow, sending Americans home, etc. An actual professional cast would probably not be that effective as they'd need to avoid such jokes. They're better at that, and better at providing interesting insight into the game. The difference is worlds apart in terms of analytical insight compared to casters. And I just personally can't stand people yelling play-by-plays trying to hype the game. For me its about the game itself and the plays, not the hype. | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:40 hariooo wrote: veno mid sf safe offensive tri aa visage drow plz edit: dreams never come true that wouldve been ok viper wouldve been ok too but i consider veno strnoger there (but vipers more of a real frontliner) | ||
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On December 14 2015 07:55 nojok wrote: Is it a sign that ppd is tiliting? He said to his team "gtfo, I farm safelane or I kick you all" i think it was the correct decision to roam the gyro, like bulba was saying... vp's just been too skilled with their ogre magi | ||
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Hillarity + sound strategic analysis in one sentence. Co[a/u]ch Bulba for the win! | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:00 Vaelone wrote: Get rid of Illidan, win shit. I did always say that he's the russian EE | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:11 Chewbacca. wrote: AA is level 9 with like 3 levels into stats? Is that normal?? both q and e are only actually effective around laning stage and early skirmishes you usually want to max w first if by the time you max w, q/e arent relevant, you can choose to not skill them i think it makes sense | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:12 amiGo_O wrote: BTS should really throw "play-by-play" caster in ... at some point I thought they are commentating a replay :X theres always some complaint | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:15 apes wrote: vp playing this game like theyre out of brain power, wtf are they doing after the questionable mid push, everything else was difficult anyway this lineup requires super clean execution | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:15 apes wrote: vp playing this game like theyre out of brain power, wtf are they doing They lost before their first highground push, they just play for the possible brainfart from EG. | ||
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I don't understand a damn thing and it feels like there's no energy. Is this kind of like.. one of those tourneys that's for more experienced viewers? | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:22 ahswtini wrote: lol vp's game to lose? wat happened to 95-5 it was vp's game to lose at the moment they got that first rosh eg seriously had issues for liket he 10 minutse leading up to that rosh | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:13 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: both q and e are only actually effective around laning stage and early skirmishes you usually want to max w first if by the time you max w, q/e arent relevant, you can choose to not skill them i think it makes sense Left W at level 2. | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:22 ahswtini wrote: lol vp's game to lose? wat happened to 95-5 He means given the way the game developed up until the huge throw in mid. | ||
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United States6290 Posts
On December 14 2015 08:23 Rehio wrote: So.. I don't really follow DOTA much. Is this generally how casting goes? I don't understand a damn thing and it feels like there's no energy. Is this kind of like.. one of those tourneys that's for more experienced viewers? It's four pro players casting If you're familiar with something like Homestory Cup it's like that | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:23 Rehio wrote: So.. I don't really follow DOTA much. Is this generally how casting goes? I don't understand a damn thing and it feels like there's no energy. Is this kind of like.. one of those tourneys that's for more experienced viewers? no, this is all-pro casting which is a rarity and a specialty of this tournament, which is meant to be like homestory cup of dota so yea you need to be an experienced viewer | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:26 Frazzlehoon wrote: Nice analysis from Bulba and Fly focusing really on the Drafter's point of view, something that we don't get to hear too much discussion about. They really capitalize on the different options that they have, but its up to FNG to decide what they will go for Game 4. Whether or not he goes for Side vs Pick, if they want to stick with SF, or completely draft a new lineup vs EG. yea that was a really cool part of the analysis helps you think about how and why drafts develop the way they do in bo3s and especially bo5s | ||
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"Is this where they throw?" "Yeah, drow is dead, EG wants her." "Slim is just going to kill SF now." And so on. | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:28 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: yea that was a really cool part of the analysis helps you think about how and why drafts develop the way they do in bo3s and especially bo5s Yea, I really enjoy the drafting mindgames, shows a bit of the drafter's personality and how they approach the game. In longer series, there's so much more you can do to outdraft and outpick your opponent. | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:26 Frazzlehoon wrote: Nice analysis from Bulba and Fly focusing really on the Drafter's point of view, something that we don't get to hear too much discussion about. They really capitalize on the different options that they have, but its up to FNG to decide what they will go for Game 4. Whether or not he goes for Side vs Pick, if they want to stick with SF, or completely draft a new lineup vs EG. They could jsut ban SF imo, G has been godlike evey game no matter the hero he plays or how well his team performed, I think they could abuse this. He's also almost sackable as he manages to get a huge impact even after a difficult laning phase. | ||
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although I'm not sure how iceiceice cast really works with his limited English, did he cast before? | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:37 Ufnal wrote: OK, these guys make even autosemiracist jokes fun :D although I'm not sure how iceiceice cast really works with his limited English, did he cast before? its not that limited lol | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:37 Ufnal wrote: OK, these guys make even autosemiracist jokes fun :D although I'm not sure how iceiceice cast really works with his limited English, did he cast before? limited? it's his first language | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:37 Ufnal wrote: OK, these guys make even autosemiracist jokes fun :D although I'm not sure how iceiceice cast really works with his limited English, did he cast before? errr really ? | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:37 Ufnal wrote: OK, these guys make even autosemiracist jokes fun :D although I'm not sure how iceiceice cast really works with his limited English, did he cast before? It will be fine, definitely better than that time Chuan with a translator joined the casting couch. | ||
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Poland1435 Posts
Ok, I might be mistaken. He sounds like he's not a native speaker, but that might be just him trolling or me being deaf or something? | ||
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France15845 Posts
A few more comments like this one and I won't dare to post anymore | ||
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Canada9491 Posts
On December 14 2015 08:39 Ufnal wrote: Ok, I might be mistaken. He sounds like he's not a native speaker, but that might be just him trolling or me being deaf or something? nvm obv english is not his first language but its fine | ||
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Err, I don't think so but I am willing to listen to your arguments? | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:40 CorsairHero wrote: nvm obv english is not his first language but its fine it is, you guys don't know what accents are | ||
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United States3196 Posts
On December 14 2015 08:39 Ufnal wrote: Ok, I might be mistaken. He sounds like he's not a native speaker, but that might be just him trolling or me being deaf or something? He's Singaporean, so he speaks English with a Singaporean accent. But English is also one of the official languages of Singapore, and many (most? not sure of the percentages) younger Singaporeans are native English speakers. | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:41 Ufnal wrote: Err, I don't think so but I am willing to listen to your arguments? He has a very good Englishand and a Singaporean accent, surprise news, most of people are not native English speakers. | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:42 Stancel wrote: it is, you guys don't know what accents are thought it was malay my b | ||
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Poland1435 Posts
On December 14 2015 08:42 Pyrthas wrote: He's Singaporean, so he speaks English with a Singaporean accent. But English is also one of the official languages of Singapore, and many (most? not sure of the percentages) younger Singaporeans are native English speakers. Oh, I did not know that about Singapore, thank you! On December 14 2015 08:42 nojok wrote: He has a very good Englishand and a Singaporean accent, surprise news, most of people are not native English speakers. Yeah I know, I was talking more about he seemed to be talking in short, simple sentences compared to the rest of the cast. But it's the first time in a while, if ever, that I am watching him, so I might've spoken too soon. | ||
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If you listened to Fly and Bulba when Game 3 was ending, they actually predicted this as one of the options that FNG could have gone. FNG could have picked Radiant, but decided to choose First pick again to pick up SF on Dire. If you look at the 3rd bans on both sides, thats really where the draft starts. There's a lot more to drafting that just picking heroes, it's a lot about mentality and mindgames that come into play. PPD is fine with VP having SF Dire, VP is fine with EG having Dazzle Gyro. The rest of the draft is where it gets interesting due to the longer series. | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:46 Ufnal wrote: Oh, I did not know that about Singapore, thank you! Yeah I know, I was talking more about he seemed to be talking in short, simple sentences compared to the rest of the cast. But it's the first time in a while, if ever, that I am watching him, so I might've spoken too soon. And he's a fans' favorite | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:46 Ufnal wrote: Oh, I did not know that about Singapore, thank you! Yeah I know, I was talking more about he seemed to be talking in short, simple sentences compared to the rest of the cast. But it's the first time in a while, if ever, that I am watching him, so I might've spoken too soon. Honestly singapore/malaysia english are more than just accents so it confuses people for good reasons. don't feel bad about that. But ye, ice3 can speak singlish so it can be hard for some people to listen. | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:48 lolfail9001 wrote: You can kick Illidan out of VP but you can't kick Illidan heroes out of VP. carry silencer sounds better when it's Silent playing it anyway | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:49 BurningSera wrote: Honestly singapore/malaysia english are more than just accents so it confuses people for good reasons. don't feel bad about that. But ye, ice3 can speak singlish so it can be hard for some people to listen. Though just to be clear, because this stuff isn't confusing enough: Singlish is not what he's speaking right now. Singlish is effectively a distinct language, which isn't really mutually intelligible with English. So there's Singaporean English, like there's American English, Australian English, British English, Scottish English, etc., and then separate from all that is Singlish. Whee! | ||
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Poll: EG will come back from 0-2 and win the series? Currently is 1-2 Yes USA USA USA (12) No. Russian got this shit. (10) 22 total votes Your vote: EG will come back from 0-2 and win the series? Currently is 1-2 | ||
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On December 14 2015 09:04 BurningSera wrote: it does looks like EG is coming back big time lol More like VP forgot how to play like VP. | ||
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On December 14 2015 09:07 lolfail9001 wrote: More like VP forgot how to play like VP. is EG trying to be VP and VP trying to be EG now? | ||
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On December 14 2015 09:08 Pyrthas wrote: euls vs atos, what great itemization this game dunno if youre being sarcastic, but sumail can have an escape remnant and escape to it guaranteed with his euls | ||
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On December 14 2015 09:09 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: dunno if youre being sarcastic, but sumail can have an escape remnant and escape to it guaranteed with his euls lol my bad, no sarcasm! euls has already been great for him, and the atos did work in that fight at vp's t2 mid | ||
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Where are you? | ||
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On December 14 2015 09:13 lolfail9001 wrote: Jesus Virtus Pro of OG/VG and first 2 EG games. Where are you? they're there. EG is just showing what a TI winning team can do in a BO5. Being consistent and adaptating fast is part of the deal. | ||
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On December 14 2015 09:15 Alpino wrote: they're there. EG is just showing what a TI winning team can do in a BO5. Being consistent and adaptating fast is part of the deal. No, they're not. That Virtus Pro was not going for smokes without their most important ult. This does. | ||
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Czech Republic2040 Posts
On December 14 2015 09:15 Alpino wrote: they're there. EG is just showing what a TI winning team can do in a BO5. Being consistent and adaptating fast is part of the deal. not really, smoking without main tool in form of global silence is just "we msut finish quickly" tilt thinking. | ||
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100% game won go next! | ||
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On December 14 2015 09:20 CosmicSpiral wrote: Silent is going to be useless very soon. Would you say his impact on the game will be muted? | ||
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On December 14 2015 09:20 CosmicSpiral wrote: Silent is going to be useless very soon. Well, he is looking to be going for hex, so that may help. | ||
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On December 14 2015 09:26 DwD wrote: 2K MMR Casters telling Sumail how to play. Classic. Boy, if Moon, Godz, and Iceiceice are 2k, I can only imagine how good Miracle- is. | ||
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On December 14 2015 09:26 WolfintheSheep wrote: Every time I hear "just rush in and kill him" I hear "just Russian and kill him". davai davai! honestly, i think that if EG comes back to win, it speaks to ppd's ability to adapt to a team mid-series and the other 4's resilience. also, does dazzle still have his kill streak? | ||
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On December 14 2015 09:26 WolfintheSheep wrote: Every time I hear "just rush in and kill him" I hear "just Russian and kill him". Me too! | ||
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On December 14 2015 09:27 BluemoonSC wrote: davai davai! honestly, i think that if EG comes back to win, it speaks to ppd's ability to adapt to a team mid-series and the other 4's resilience. also, does dazzle still have his kill streak? Nah he lost it to ES about 2 min after casters talked about it | ||
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On December 14 2015 09:27 BluemoonSC wrote: davai davai! honestly, i think that if EG comes back to win, it speaks to ppd's ability to adapt to a team mid-series and the other 4's resilience. also, does dazzle still have his kill streak? Lost the streak to Silent I think. | ||
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rtz definitely not left right now. just like theres no one left on vp. RAMPAGE! | ||
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On December 14 2015 09:29 BluemoonSC wrote: how does lotus orb interact with spell steal? It used to steal spell steal. I remember some videos about meepo with lotus and then steal ravage for ravage on all meepos. I don't know if they changed anything. | ||
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On December 14 2015 09:30 nojok wrote: It used to steal spell steal. I remember some videos about meepo with lotus and then steal ravage for ravage on all meepos. I don't know if they changed anything. they changed it lotus orb spell steal now has no interaction | ||
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Virtus Throw was real. | ||
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On December 14 2015 09:30 nojok wrote: It used to steal spell steal. I remember some videos about meepo with lotus and then steal ravage for ravage on all meepos. I don't know if they changed anything. lotus orb ignores spell steal now | ||
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On December 14 2015 09:29 BluemoonSC wrote: how does lotus orb interact with spell steal? rtz definitely not left right now. just like theres no one left on vp. RAMPAGE! i dont think it does, im pretty sure when 6.84 first came out it was the source of alot of bugs | ||
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On December 14 2015 09:26 BurningSera wrote: no! wtf finish this game! is late i need to sleep >_< Silly Europeans. | ||
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On December 14 2015 09:31 wims80 wrote: I think that VP's energy levels are getting way too low now after playing 6 games in quick succession They made it harder for themselves. | ||
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Oh right it was to Silent. | ||
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On December 14 2015 09:31 Pyrthas wrote: However this series ends, VP played phenomenally to get this far, and EG responded to the first two losses like champs. Great series, great tournament. Exactly my feelings Lil and Fng have been gods this whole tournament Respect | ||
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On December 14 2015 09:34 BluemoonSC wrote: dunno, its hard to say that VP threw g4 when universe was playing out of his damn mind on the dark seer. When VP loses a game they automatically throw the same way alliance are autmatically back after winning a game. | ||
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United States3634 Posts
On December 14 2015 09:39 BurningSera wrote: that reminds me, russians should be asleep at this hour, is nearly 2am for them, thats the plan all along D: Notice how the NA team starts winning right as the Russians go to sleep.. Edit: You also made me google how many time zones in Russia. | ||
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On December 14 2015 09:34 BluemoonSC wrote: dunno, its hard to say that VP threw g4 when universe was playing out of his damn mind on the dark seer. I mean, let's put it this way VP were definitely having some questionable plays, even though universe definitely pulled his usual underrated weight. | ||
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On December 14 2015 09:39 BurningSera wrote: that reminds me, russians should be asleep at this hour, is nearly 2am for them, thats the plan all along D: It's actually almost 4 am where i live. I kinda feel for VP from this point of view, i bet they are used to only stay up to 2am. | ||
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Canada14127 Posts
On December 14 2015 09:39 lolfail9001 wrote: I mean, let's put it this way VP were definitely having some questionable plays, even though universe definitely pulled his usual underrated weight. Are you calling Universe fat? | ||
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United States3634 Posts
On December 14 2015 09:40 lolfail9001 wrote: It's actually almost 4 am where i live. I kinda feel for VP from this point of view, i bet they are used to only stay up to 2am. Would hope they made the flight earlier enough to have time to adjust, but who knows. | ||
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United States6290 Posts
On December 14 2015 09:39 lolfail9001 wrote: I mean, let's put it this way VP were definitely having some questionable plays, even though universe definitely pulled his usual underrated weight. Do people still think Universe is underrated He gets more dicksucking than any other player on EG | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
Poll: EG will come back from 0-2 and win the series? Currently is 1-2 Yes USA USA USA (12) No. Russian got this shit. (10) 22 total votes Your vote: EG will come back from 0-2 and win the series? Currently is 1-2 i am going to pass out anytime now | ||
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stuchiu
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On December 14 2015 09:42 stuchiu wrote: Were the first 4 games worth watching? Anyone? | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Nah, i am calling him buff. On December 14 2015 09:43 TomatoBisque wrote: Do people still think Universe is underrated He gets more dicksucking than any other player on EG It was a joke because the first time i have seen that circlejerk arise was when Universe was playing DS every second game. | ||
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wims80
1892 Posts
On December 14 2015 09:43 Chewbacca. wrote: Would hope they made the flight earlier enough to have time to adjust, but who knows. They wouldn't even have needed to fly out early, they could easily have adjusted their sleep schedule before leaving for murica. However, even if they did that they would still be knackered at this point after playing a ton of officials today | ||
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trinxified
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
Depends on what you like watching. First 2 were typical VP, other two were fairly typical EG. | ||
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Pyrthas
United States3196 Posts
On December 14 2015 09:42 stuchiu wrote: Were the first 4 games worth watching? They weren't especially close, but the draft metagame has been really interesting. Also, the first three games were a full OG cast (everyone except Miracle), so of course they were fun, with great analysis. | ||
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CorsairHero
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On December 14 2015 09:47 WolfintheSheep wrote: Depends on what you like watching. First 2 were typical VP, other two were fairly typical EG. Ah so nothing special. They just executed their strats. | ||
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brinepumps
Indonesia753 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On December 14 2015 09:48 stuchiu wrote: Ah so nothing special. They just executed their strats. Most interesting part is the adjustments in EGs draft. On December 14 2015 09:48 brinepumps wrote: Just tuned in, Eul on Ember? Why? Because Silencer fucks Ember up, and it's cheaper than Manta. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On December 14 2015 09:48 brinepumps wrote: Just tuned in, Eul on Ember? Why? silencer | ||
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
not sure if the pause needed to come THAT much sooner, but taking up your full time for 1st ban says a lot about the players and the meta i remember when sumail was flamed for doing this the first time he went eul first on ember | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 14 2015 09:48 brinepumps wrote: Just tuned in, Eul on Ember? Why? Purge the only control they had, global silence. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
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Lorizean
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 14 2015 09:49 BluemoonSC wrote: the draft metagame has been top notch not sure if the pause needed to come THAT much sooner, but taking up your full time for 1st ban says a lot about the players and the meta i remember when sumail was flamed for doing this the first time he went eul first on ember The first couple times he pick it up it ended in amazing fails. He was buying euls first on a lot of heroes back then though. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On December 14 2015 09:51 Lorizean wrote: Can somebody explain to me why it's apparently so essential to get the aegis with a drow/visage lineup? because you need aegis to hit a tower without risk of getting picked off fast into a 4v5 fight, ESPECIALLY highground and drow comps are very momentum/timing based, take too long and it often gets outscaled because drow just isn't a great fighter later on... so there's heavy pressure to break your first lane of rax by the 2nd or 3rd aegis at the latest | ||
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
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Zeelah
Ireland172 Posts
Game 3 was maybe the most even,the other 3 were basically stomps | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On December 14 2015 09:53 Chewbacca. wrote: I don't know if it's essential, but drow is kind of a gimmicky heroes, and one of the good things about her is an easy Rosh. Not to mention she is pretty squishy. you dont put the aegis on drow unless she's your only tower hitter; in vp's games they were always putting it on sf | ||
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Lorizean
Germany1330 Posts
On December 14 2015 09:52 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: because you need aegis to hit a tower without risk of getting picked off fast into a 4v5 fight, ESPECIALLY highground and drow comps are very momentum/timing based, take too long and it often gets outscaled because drow just isn't a great fighter later on... so there's heavy pressure to break your first lane of rax by the 2nd or 3rd aegis at the latest That makes sense, thanks. | ||
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Spicy_Curry
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rebdomine
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PhoenixVoid
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On December 14 2015 09:55 rebdomine wrote: sweet game 5 draft is just starting even though I left to get breakfast at the end of game 4. what took them so long? they just played 4 games in a row with really short breaks, makes sense that they wanted a longer one (also to plan for the draft probably) | ||
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Zeelah
Ireland172 Posts
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
On December 14 2015 09:51 Plansix wrote: The first couple times he pick it up it ended in amazing fails. He was buying euls first on a lot of heroes back then though. just makes sense tho imo. if youre going 4-0-4-1, the movement speed and mana is quite nice for farming and for fighting. added bonus of being able to use your euls to purge and dodge..dunno, vs silence, it seems strong. less than ideal for an ember, but strong especially for its cost On December 14 2015 09:56 PhoenixVoid wrote: Respect Dark Seer ban out of VP. yeah i mean how could you not. opens the door for rtz sf tho  | ||
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Pyrthas
United States3196 Posts
On December 14 2015 09:55 rebdomine wrote: sweet game 5 draft is just starting even though I left to get breakfast at the end of game 4. what took them so long? ts server was down | ||
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
Gives him an excuse to draft it as support again. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On December 14 2015 09:57 Chewbacca. wrote: Go go grand finals game 5 uni Axe! | ||
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
On December 14 2015 09:57 Chewbacca. wrote: Go go grand finals game 5 uni Axe! Yea, I'm quoting myself here. | ||
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Pyrthas
United States3196 Posts
On December 14 2015 09:57 Chewbacca. wrote: Go go grand finals game 5 uni Axe! There you go! | ||
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traumatism
Singapore3728 Posts
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Danzo
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
On December 14 2015 10:05 Danzo wrote: yeah EG lost . On December 14 2015 10:05 lolfail9001 wrote: Sounds like an easy stomp for EG from lanes onwards. Who do I believe? | ||
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brinepumps
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plasmidghost
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PhoenixVoid
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Verniy
Canada3360 Posts
GG | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On December 14 2015 10:06 plasmidghost wrote: Who do I believe? Looks i am not that wrong so far. | ||
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Canada32746 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On December 14 2015 10:06 plasmidghost wrote: Who do I believe? whoever history supports. | ||
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Azarkon
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LeeARK
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wims80
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
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Turkey7150 Posts
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
On December 14 2015 10:15 wims80 wrote: Why no shallow grave points? It's the bait, they expect you to have a point in it so they don't go on you but you don't and you kill them with surprise max poison | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
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pellejohnson
United States1931 Posts
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BlazingGlory
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
not working out tho ok there you go thats why dazzle's build is a good idea | ||
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LeeARK
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
On December 14 2015 10:18 LeeARK wrote: Wait how does Universe already have blink dagger? solo lane vs slardar lol | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
On December 14 2015 10:19 WolfintheSheep wrote: This is why PPD kicked Aui. So he could get farm .Haha yeah, PPD beat Fear in farm two games in a row. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On December 14 2015 10:20 Chewbacca. wrote: Haha yeah, PPD beat Fear in farm two games in a row. This game too. Fear is the Lich. Edit: nvm, Fear back ahead again. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Not this game, Venge is below Lich on my stream. | ||
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LeeARK
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Pyrthas
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Vertical
Indonesia4317 Posts
this is over | ||
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Latham
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Klipsys
United States1533 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
On December 14 2015 10:06 plasmidghost wrote: Who do I believe? answered | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On December 14 2015 10:28 Pyrthas wrote: Well, really impressive adjustments from EG to make VP look this silly after VP clowned on them for the first two games. Not about EG as much as about VP going full davai. Never go full davai. | ||
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Frazzlehoon
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LeeARK
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Zeelah
Ireland172 Posts
On December 14 2015 10:17 pellejohnson wrote: How is it even possible to dominate the first 2 games and then turn into something that looks like completely tier 3 trash? Long day,this is their 7th game of the day,all high intensity,feeling the pressure of the Eg comeback,other factors we may not know about.Honestly its understandable they're tilting I think | ||
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TheTenthDoc
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ch33psh33p
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wuhan_clan
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On December 14 2015 10:30 plasmidghost wrote: Classic ppd Salt I'd be pretty salty too if I just lost a big lead in a game five of a final during lag spikes. | ||
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yookstah
Australia655 Posts
hopefully they don't lose their cool - would be a shame to lose because of something like this | ||
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ch33psh33p
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 14 2015 10:29 lolfail9001 wrote: Not about EG as much as about VP going full davai. Never go full davai. Remember, no one does well in dota. The other team always throws. | ||
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Lorizean
Germany1330 Posts
On December 14 2015 10:30 wuhan_clan wrote: "feel it out" ? ROFL who gives a shit? If it really lags that much, then stay paused. If you unpause, anything goes. Yes, exactly. You can't expect the opponents to let an opportunity go just because you might still be lagging, even though you agreed to unpause. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On December 14 2015 10:32 Plansix wrote: Remember, no one does well in dota. The other team always throws. Nah, the OG games did not really involve throws. Just straight brutality of the beatdown. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On December 14 2015 10:28 Ufnal wrote: Why pick Dazzle and never grave :'( It honestly really doesn't do anything this game, their ability to bring down or keep Axe out of range of grave targets is really low. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On December 14 2015 10:38 Danzo wrote: Moon put out a good point. If VP stomps "OMG WHAT TEAM MOMENTUM DRIVEN GREAT CORDINATION", but if they do the same thing but lose fights, "Oh my such a throw, never goo full duvai!" <_< Knowing when to go in and when not to does make a huge difference. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On December 14 2015 10:38 Danzo wrote: Moon put out a good point. If VP stomps "OMG WHAT TEAM MOMENTUM DRIVEN GREAT CORDINATION", but if they do the same thing but lose fights, "Oh my such a throw, never goo full duvai!" <_< Rewatch games 3 and 4 and come back. | ||
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Latham
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Bar 6.86 hitting right fucking now and corrupting save files this game is over. This wasn't supposed to end like this in a stomp | ||
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On December 14 2015 10:51 plasmidghost wrote: I'm glad to see Arteezy back to his winning ways, but if EE-sama was here, he'd have put him in second place VP would've knocked Secret out in 8th place :D. | ||
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lolnoty
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plasmidghost
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On December 14 2015 10:48 lolfail9001 wrote: Betting my signature on EG not throwing this. Welp... | ||
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LeeARK
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
10k xp for radiant. not ded yet? | ||
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lolfail9001
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lolnoty
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On December 14 2015 10:52 Danzo wrote: I like how they're saying the game is over when it's not even close. looks over to me. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Two lanes of rax is pretty good. And the next rosh fight will be a nightmare for VG. | ||
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Acritter
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Vertical
Indonesia4317 Posts
VP reaaalllyyy wants that first place | ||
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yookstah
Australia655 Posts
On December 14 2015 10:57 Vertical wrote: wow, been away again and still not over VP reaaalllyyy wants that first place I admire their determination. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On December 14 2015 10:57 Vertical wrote: wow, been away again and still not over VP reaaalllyyy wants that first place VP just waiting for EG to ruin my signature. | ||
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Verniy
Canada3360 Posts
On December 14 2015 10:56 Acritter wrote: It kinda feels to me like this would have been a good Skadi game on SF. Shared opinion? pretty sure skadi is good on every hero in every game issue is a lot of the time you need other items more | ||
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Baozi
United States1191 Posts
great tournament, all around | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Holy crap. | ||
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Achaian
United States3369 Posts
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
Gratz EG on another win | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 14 2015 11:01 plasmidghost wrote: 1428 gold for 1 hero nice game Icefraud The sumail is worth the bling. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but let's all just be prepared for something ridiculously cancerous. | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
cmon moon | ||
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
On December 14 2015 11:05 Acritter wrote: If it's possible for games to be this hard to close out already, if next patch is more defensive, it's going to be insanely difficult to push in any situation. I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but let's all just be prepared for something ridiculously cancerous. One would imagine that if IF buffed base defense then he'd also nerf comeback mechanics because they wouldn't be necessary. | ||
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Wineandbread
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On December 14 2015 11:05 Acritter wrote: If it's possible for games to be this hard to close out already, if next patch is more defensive, it's going to be insanely difficult to push in any situation. I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but let's all just be prepared for something ridiculously cancerous. Considering we survived 6.82a and 6.84a, i would not be too worried. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On December 14 2015 11:06 Chewbacca. wrote: One would imagine that if IF buffed base defense then he'd also nerf comeback mechanics because they wouldn't be necessary. one would imagine On December 14 2015 11:06 lolfail9001 wrote: Considering we survived 6.82a and 6.84a, i would not be too worried. speak for yourself check your living privilege | ||
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Vertical
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Exoteric
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
is it because no compendiums like last time? | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
On December 14 2015 11:08 trinxified wrote: why prize money so low... is it because no compendiums like last time? Ded gaem But seriously, oversaturation by far is going to drag down the prize pools of individual tourneys' crowdfunding | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
who's not going | ||
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Acritter
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On December 14 2015 11:11 trinxified wrote: why RTZ standing in for DC again? who's not going According to Liquipedia, Yawar won't be showing up. With the power of Arteezy, they may finally be able to claim the title Digital Canadians. | ||
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Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
Is rtz standing in for DC because of Yawar's visa issues in China? | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On December 14 2015 16:00 Kipsate wrote: lmao vp went on tilt and lost 2-3 gg Wouldn't exactly say tilt when ppd got to draft against the same kind of lineup 4 times in a row and then got VP out of their comfort zone. Feels like the kind of series where a single pocket draft would've won this for VP. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Nice way for EG to finish off the year, i appreciate the 4 hours of sleep i got thanks to how late the tourney went TT | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On December 14 2015 11:25 Chewbacca. wrote: Is dank supposed to be a positive thing to this community...? the positive connotation stems from weed culture (where sticky weed is da dank shit), which transferred into internet meme culture | ||
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