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On December 13 2015 04:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2015 04:28 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 04:21 dutchfriese wrote:On December 13 2015 04:03 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 03:28 WolfintheSheep wrote:On December 13 2015 03:17 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 02:59 dutchfriese wrote:On December 13 2015 00:04 evanthebouncy! wrote:
don't get ahead of yourself yet you've only been right 4 in a roll.
take it easy with your prediction charms lmao. even a broken clock is right twice a day. The shots of me being right because of the "broken clock" argument is: (0.5)^4 = 6.25% But actually, I also said the West was going to win the international in 2015, so it's actually: (0.5)^5 = 3.12% 97% skill, 3% luck. Also said VP would be third, MVP would be third, Secret would win, Empire would be third... I over rated Russians, over rated Koreans, and over rated Arteezy, but I do also recall saying that one of Puppey/PPD is going to win. You just say a lot of stupid shit. Sometimes it sticks, but it's usually ludicrous. It's usually spot on. Saying Virtus Pro and Empire would be 3rd/4th isn't that ridiculous, and saying Secret would win is what most of the community did. The only ludicrous call I made during the international was that MVP would be 3rd. I did enjoy what happened after though - ie all the people telling me that, after Secret got eliminated and PPD's team dropped to lower, the Chinese were going to take it, and that I best be prepared to disappear. We all know what happened. And yes, calling for the West to win these days is not a big achievement. Which is why I said in the beginning that I'd love for it to be competitive again. Rather than a "broken clock" analogy, the current state of Dota is one where anyone could get it right just by saying the West's gonna win. That makes it boring. Saying "one of the two teams that make every finals will win TI5" is an obvious guess, and getting that right does not make you smart. Getting everything else wrong and still pretending you're smart is hilarious. You hedged your bets across like 6 teams and got 1 right. Also, many (most) people still thought EG would take the finals, especially when you separate out the people making predictions with the ones who are just cheering their favourite teams. Betting odds were in favour of EG, and the fact that they won was not shocking to anyone.
Ah yes, ignore the big calls, and focus only on such trivial errors as who the 3rd place team is going to be.
I'll be fair - by the time of the international, it was easy already to see that the West was going to win, and the only people who thought otherwise operated on the mistaken belief that the Chinese were going to double their skill in a month. But the "smart" call was the one I made earlier in the year, after DAC, where I said that there is no way the Chinese had a team that matches up to PPD's and Puppey's in raw talent. And the "smarter" call, in case you will, is the one I made AFTER the international, where I said that all jokes about 8 0 0 0 MMR aside, it's the Western new talent that's going to pull the West ahead this season.
But yes, keep talking about how I made a mistake about the Russians and Koreans.
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This Elder Titan pick, glad to see him back
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On December 13 2015 04:47 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2015 04:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:On December 13 2015 04:28 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 04:21 dutchfriese wrote:On December 13 2015 04:03 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 03:28 WolfintheSheep wrote:On December 13 2015 03:17 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 02:59 dutchfriese wrote:On December 13 2015 00:04 evanthebouncy! wrote:
don't get ahead of yourself yet you've only been right 4 in a roll.
take it easy with your prediction charms lmao. even a broken clock is right twice a day. The shots of me being right because of the "broken clock" argument is: (0.5)^4 = 6.25% But actually, I also said the West was going to win the international in 2015, so it's actually: (0.5)^5 = 3.12% 97% skill, 3% luck. Also said VP would be third, MVP would be third, Secret would win, Empire would be third... I over rated Russians, over rated Koreans, and over rated Arteezy, but I do also recall saying that one of Puppey/PPD is going to win. You just say a lot of stupid shit. Sometimes it sticks, but it's usually ludicrous. It's usually spot on. Saying Virtus Pro and Empire would be 3rd/4th isn't that ridiculous, and saying Secret would win is what most of the community did. The only ludicrous call I made during the international was that MVP would be 3rd. I did enjoy what happened after though - ie all the people telling me that, after Secret got eliminated and PPD's team dropped to lower, the Chinese were going to take it, and that I best be prepared to disappear. We all know what happened. And yes, calling for the West to win these days is not a big achievement. Which is why I said in the beginning that I'd love for it to be competitive again. Rather than a "broken clock" analogy, the current state of Dota is one where anyone could get it right just by saying the West's gonna win. That makes it boring. Saying "one of the two teams that make every finals will win TI5" is an obvious guess, and getting that right does not make you smart. Getting everything else wrong and still pretending you're smart is hilarious. You hedged your bets across like 6 teams and got 1 right. Also, many (most) people still thought EG would take the finals, especially when you separate out the people making predictions with the ones who are just cheering their favourite teams. Betting odds were in favour of EG, and the fact that they won was not shocking to anyone. Ah yes, ignore the big calls, and focus only on such trivial errors as who the 3rd place team is going to be. I'll be fair - by the time of the international, it was easy already to see that the West was going to win, and the only people who thought otherwise operated on the mistaken belief that the Chinese were just sand bagging the whole way. But the "smart" call was the one I made earlier in the year, after DAC, where I said that there is no way the Chinese had a team that matches up to PPD's and Puppey's in raw talent. And the "smarter" call, in case you will, is the one I made AFTER the international, where I said that all jokes about 8 0 0 0 MMR aside, it's the Western new talent that's going to pull the West ahead this season. But yes, keep talking about how I made a mistake about the Russians and Koreans.
Also forgetting your big call of no Chinese in the Top 4.
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Liquid should have this game on the back of an unkillable fata.
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On December 13 2015 04:44 ptbl wrote:
Seriously, the dota team chokes at the same time as the CSGO team. Hell, the league team choked when they had multiple opportunities to go to worlds. The heroes team choked in Prague for the Blizzcon qualifiers. There are too many Liquid teams that are choking at important times. Is this on management or the team themselves? What's going on?
Yeah, it's totally management's fault. They have voodoo dolls of all the Liquid players and stick pins in them whenever they're close to winning. /s
Shit happens sometimes. Stop looking for people to blame.
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On December 13 2015 04:48 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2015 04:47 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 04:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:On December 13 2015 04:28 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 04:21 dutchfriese wrote:On December 13 2015 04:03 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 03:28 WolfintheSheep wrote:On December 13 2015 03:17 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 02:59 dutchfriese wrote:On December 13 2015 00:04 evanthebouncy! wrote:
don't get ahead of yourself yet you've only been right 4 in a roll.
take it easy with your prediction charms lmao. even a broken clock is right twice a day. The shots of me being right because of the "broken clock" argument is: (0.5)^4 = 6.25% But actually, I also said the West was going to win the international in 2015, so it's actually: (0.5)^5 = 3.12% 97% skill, 3% luck. Also said VP would be third, MVP would be third, Secret would win, Empire would be third... I over rated Russians, over rated Koreans, and over rated Arteezy, but I do also recall saying that one of Puppey/PPD is going to win. You just say a lot of stupid shit. Sometimes it sticks, but it's usually ludicrous. It's usually spot on. Saying Virtus Pro and Empire would be 3rd/4th isn't that ridiculous, and saying Secret would win is what most of the community did. The only ludicrous call I made during the international was that MVP would be 3rd. I did enjoy what happened after though - ie all the people telling me that, after Secret got eliminated and PPD's team dropped to lower, the Chinese were going to take it, and that I best be prepared to disappear. We all know what happened. And yes, calling for the West to win these days is not a big achievement. Which is why I said in the beginning that I'd love for it to be competitive again. Rather than a "broken clock" analogy, the current state of Dota is one where anyone could get it right just by saying the West's gonna win. That makes it boring. Saying "one of the two teams that make every finals will win TI5" is an obvious guess, and getting that right does not make you smart. Getting everything else wrong and still pretending you're smart is hilarious. You hedged your bets across like 6 teams and got 1 right. Also, many (most) people still thought EG would take the finals, especially when you separate out the people making predictions with the ones who are just cheering their favourite teams. Betting odds were in favour of EG, and the fact that they won was not shocking to anyone. Ah yes, ignore the big calls, and focus only on such trivial errors as who the 3rd place team is going to be. I'll be fair - by the time of the international, it was easy already to see that the West was going to win, and the only people who thought otherwise operated on the mistaken belief that the Chinese were just sand bagging the whole way. But the "smart" call was the one I made earlier in the year, after DAC, where I said that there is no way the Chinese had a team that matches up to PPD's and Puppey's in raw talent. And the "smarter" call, in case you will, is the one I made AFTER the international, where I said that all jokes about 8 0 0 0 MMR aside, it's the Western new talent that's going to pull the West ahead this season. But yes, keep talking about how I made a mistake about the Russians and Koreans. Also forgetting your big call of no Chinese in the Top 4.
I said there *could* be no Chinese in the top 4, not that there's going to be.
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On December 13 2015 04:49 DucK- wrote:
Liquid should have this game on the back of an unkillable fata.
theyve got it if it goes late, but I think VP can take this early/mid f G can get going early with his blink
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On December 13 2015 04:49 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2015 04:48 WolfintheSheep wrote:On December 13 2015 04:47 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 04:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:On December 13 2015 04:28 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 04:21 dutchfriese wrote:On December 13 2015 04:03 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 03:28 WolfintheSheep wrote:On December 13 2015 03:17 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 02:59 dutchfriese wrote:
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even a broken clock is right twice a day. The shots of me being right because of the "broken clock" argument is: (0.5)^4 = 6.25% But actually, I also said the West was going to win the international in 2015, so it's actually: (0.5)^5 = 3.12% 97% skill, 3% luck. Also said VP would be third, MVP would be third, Secret would win, Empire would be third... I over rated Russians, over rated Koreans, and over rated Arteezy, but I do also recall saying that one of Puppey/PPD is going to win. You just say a lot of stupid shit. Sometimes it sticks, but it's usually ludicrous. It's usually spot on. Saying Virtus Pro and Empire would be 3rd/4th isn't that ridiculous, and saying Secret would win is what most of the community did. The only ludicrous call I made during the international was that MVP would be 3rd. I did enjoy what happened after though - ie all the people telling me that, after Secret got eliminated and PPD's team dropped to lower, the Chinese were going to take it, and that I best be prepared to disappear. We all know what happened. And yes, calling for the West to win these days is not a big achievement. Which is why I said in the beginning that I'd love for it to be competitive again. Rather than a "broken clock" analogy, the current state of Dota is one where anyone could get it right just by saying the West's gonna win. That makes it boring. Saying "one of the two teams that make every finals will win TI5" is an obvious guess, and getting that right does not make you smart. Getting everything else wrong and still pretending you're smart is hilarious. You hedged your bets across like 6 teams and got 1 right. Also, many (most) people still thought EG would take the finals, especially when you separate out the people making predictions with the ones who are just cheering their favourite teams. Betting odds were in favour of EG, and the fact that they won was not shocking to anyone. Ah yes, ignore the big calls, and focus only on such trivial errors as who the 3rd place team is going to be. I'll be fair - by the time of the international, it was easy already to see that the West was going to win, and the only people who thought otherwise operated on the mistaken belief that the Chinese were just sand bagging the whole way. But the "smart" call was the one I made earlier in the year, after DAC, where I said that there is no way the Chinese had a team that matches up to PPD's and Puppey's in raw talent. And the "smarter" call, in case you will, is the one I made AFTER the international, where I said that all jokes about 8 0 0 0 MMR aside, it's the Western new talent that's going to pull the West ahead this season. But yes, keep talking about how I made a mistake about the Russians and Koreans. Also forgetting your big call of no Chinese in the Top 4. I said there *could* be no Chinese in the top 4, not that there's going to be.
Notice that majority of your calls have some form of hedging?
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On December 13 2015 04:50 DucK- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2015 04:49 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 04:48 WolfintheSheep wrote:On December 13 2015 04:47 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 04:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:On December 13 2015 04:28 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 04:21 dutchfriese wrote:On December 13 2015 04:03 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 03:28 WolfintheSheep wrote:On December 13 2015 03:17 Azarkon wrote:
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The shots of me being right because of the "broken clock" argument is:
(0.5)^4 = 6.25%
But actually, I also said the West was going to win the international in 2015, so it's actually:
(0.5)^5 = 3.12%
97% skill, 3% luck. Also said VP would be third, MVP would be third, Secret would win, Empire would be third... I over rated Russians, over rated Koreans, and over rated Arteezy, but I do also recall saying that one of Puppey/PPD is going to win. You just say a lot of stupid shit. Sometimes it sticks, but it's usually ludicrous. It's usually spot on. Saying Virtus Pro and Empire would be 3rd/4th isn't that ridiculous, and saying Secret would win is what most of the community did. The only ludicrous call I made during the international was that MVP would be 3rd. I did enjoy what happened after though - ie all the people telling me that, after Secret got eliminated and PPD's team dropped to lower, the Chinese were going to take it, and that I best be prepared to disappear. We all know what happened. And yes, calling for the West to win these days is not a big achievement. Which is why I said in the beginning that I'd love for it to be competitive again. Rather than a "broken clock" analogy, the current state of Dota is one where anyone could get it right just by saying the West's gonna win. That makes it boring. Saying "one of the two teams that make every finals will win TI5" is an obvious guess, and getting that right does not make you smart. Getting everything else wrong and still pretending you're smart is hilarious. You hedged your bets across like 6 teams and got 1 right. Also, many (most) people still thought EG would take the finals, especially when you separate out the people making predictions with the ones who are just cheering their favourite teams. Betting odds were in favour of EG, and the fact that they won was not shocking to anyone. Ah yes, ignore the big calls, and focus only on such trivial errors as who the 3rd place team is going to be. I'll be fair - by the time of the international, it was easy already to see that the West was going to win, and the only people who thought otherwise operated on the mistaken belief that the Chinese were just sand bagging the whole way. But the "smart" call was the one I made earlier in the year, after DAC, where I said that there is no way the Chinese had a team that matches up to PPD's and Puppey's in raw talent. And the "smarter" call, in case you will, is the one I made AFTER the international, where I said that all jokes about 8 0 0 0 MMR aside, it's the Western new talent that's going to pull the West ahead this season. But yes, keep talking about how I made a mistake about the Russians and Koreans. Also forgetting your big call of no Chinese in the Top 4. I said there *could* be no Chinese in the top 4, not that there's going to be. Notice that majority of your calls have some form of hedging?
Ever think the majority of what I say aren't calls?
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On December 13 2015 04:50 DucK- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2015 04:49 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 04:48 WolfintheSheep wrote:On December 13 2015 04:47 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 04:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:On December 13 2015 04:28 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 04:21 dutchfriese wrote:On December 13 2015 04:03 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 03:28 WolfintheSheep wrote:On December 13 2015 03:17 Azarkon wrote:
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The shots of me being right because of the "broken clock" argument is:
(0.5)^4 = 6.25%
But actually, I also said the West was going to win the international in 2015, so it's actually:
(0.5)^5 = 3.12%
97% skill, 3% luck. Also said VP would be third, MVP would be third, Secret would win, Empire would be third... I over rated Russians, over rated Koreans, and over rated Arteezy, but I do also recall saying that one of Puppey/PPD is going to win. You just say a lot of stupid shit. Sometimes it sticks, but it's usually ludicrous. It's usually spot on. Saying Virtus Pro and Empire would be 3rd/4th isn't that ridiculous, and saying Secret would win is what most of the community did. The only ludicrous call I made during the international was that MVP would be 3rd. I did enjoy what happened after though - ie all the people telling me that, after Secret got eliminated and PPD's team dropped to lower, the Chinese were going to take it, and that I best be prepared to disappear. We all know what happened. And yes, calling for the West to win these days is not a big achievement. Which is why I said in the beginning that I'd love for it to be competitive again. Rather than a "broken clock" analogy, the current state of Dota is one where anyone could get it right just by saying the West's gonna win. That makes it boring. Saying "one of the two teams that make every finals will win TI5" is an obvious guess, and getting that right does not make you smart. Getting everything else wrong and still pretending you're smart is hilarious. You hedged your bets across like 6 teams and got 1 right. Also, many (most) people still thought EG would take the finals, especially when you separate out the people making predictions with the ones who are just cheering their favourite teams. Betting odds were in favour of EG, and the fact that they won was not shocking to anyone. Ah yes, ignore the big calls, and focus only on such trivial errors as who the 3rd place team is going to be. I'll be fair - by the time of the international, it was easy already to see that the West was going to win, and the only people who thought otherwise operated on the mistaken belief that the Chinese were just sand bagging the whole way. But the "smart" call was the one I made earlier in the year, after DAC, where I said that there is no way the Chinese had a team that matches up to PPD's and Puppey's in raw talent. And the "smarter" call, in case you will, is the one I made AFTER the international, where I said that all jokes about 8 0 0 0 MMR aside, it's the Western new talent that's going to pull the West ahead this season. But yes, keep talking about how I made a mistake about the Russians and Koreans. Also forgetting your big call of no Chinese in the Top 4. I said there *could* be no Chinese in the top 4, not that there's going to be. Notice that majority of your calls have some form of hedging?
Obviously so he can claim they were correct.
Here is my call: Every single one of us may die in next 150 years.
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Elder Titan is 4-9 this patch
KuroKy is 4-5 on Elder Titan all-time
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That salve cancel was pretty important, Silent knowing how far he can dive.
VP is CRUSHING the midlane so far, let's see the midgame rotations.
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On December 13 2015 04:50 DucK- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2015 04:49 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 04:48 WolfintheSheep wrote:On December 13 2015 04:47 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 04:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:On December 13 2015 04:28 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 04:21 dutchfriese wrote:On December 13 2015 04:03 Azarkon wrote:On December 13 2015 03:28 WolfintheSheep wrote:On December 13 2015 03:17 Azarkon wrote:
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The shots of me being right because of the "broken clock" argument is:
(0.5)^4 = 6.25%
But actually, I also said the West was going to win the international in 2015, so it's actually:
(0.5)^5 = 3.12%
97% skill, 3% luck. Also said VP would be third, MVP would be third, Secret would win, Empire would be third... I over rated Russians, over rated Koreans, and over rated Arteezy, but I do also recall saying that one of Puppey/PPD is going to win. You just say a lot of stupid shit. Sometimes it sticks, but it's usually ludicrous. It's usually spot on. Saying Virtus Pro and Empire would be 3rd/4th isn't that ridiculous, and saying Secret would win is what most of the community did. The only ludicrous call I made during the international was that MVP would be 3rd. I did enjoy what happened after though - ie all the people telling me that, after Secret got eliminated and PPD's team dropped to lower, the Chinese were going to take it, and that I best be prepared to disappear. We all know what happened. And yes, calling for the West to win these days is not a big achievement. Which is why I said in the beginning that I'd love for it to be competitive again. Rather than a "broken clock" analogy, the current state of Dota is one where anyone could get it right just by saying the West's gonna win. That makes it boring. Saying "one of the two teams that make every finals will win TI5" is an obvious guess, and getting that right does not make you smart. Getting everything else wrong and still pretending you're smart is hilarious. You hedged your bets across like 6 teams and got 1 right. Also, many (most) people still thought EG would take the finals, especially when you separate out the people making predictions with the ones who are just cheering their favourite teams. Betting odds were in favour of EG, and the fact that they won was not shocking to anyone. Ah yes, ignore the big calls, and focus only on such trivial errors as who the 3rd place team is going to be. I'll be fair - by the time of the international, it was easy already to see that the West was going to win, and the only people who thought otherwise operated on the mistaken belief that the Chinese were just sand bagging the whole way. But the "smart" call was the one I made earlier in the year, after DAC, where I said that there is no way the Chinese had a team that matches up to PPD's and Puppey's in raw talent. And the "smarter" call, in case you will, is the one I made AFTER the international, where I said that all jokes about 8 0 0 0 MMR aside, it's the Western new talent that's going to pull the West ahead this season. But yes, keep talking about how I made a mistake about the Russians and Koreans. Also forgetting your big call of no Chinese in the Top 4. I said there *could* be no Chinese in the top 4, not that there's going to be. Notice that majority of your calls have some form of hedging?
Clearly only calls when they're right.
Can't be a broken clock if you only tell time twice a day.
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Liquid getting rekt, there's no way this is going to pan out.
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Liquid can't do anything meaningful in any lane.
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