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TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
December 09 2015 21:36 GMT
#161
On December 10 2015 06:35 HammerKick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2015 06:33 sc14s wrote:
On December 10 2015 06:33 HammerKick wrote:
Lil visage :3 :3

Yeah hes pretty fantastic on it.


I just played a good visage game before the game starts. Was that a message telling me that lil is going to be good?

lil is always good
rip
Aldehyde
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden939 Posts
December 09 2015 21:36 GMT
#162
Who is the fourth guy casting? I can hear Winter, Merlini and kotlguy but can't place the fourth voice.
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
December 09 2015 21:36 GMT
#163
On December 10 2015 06:35 Latham wrote:
What is this Wraith King pick? pocket strat? solid pick this patch? downright no respect from VP?


Solid pick this patch. The hero has always been good.
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-09 21:37:34
December 09 2015 21:37 GMT
#164
Pros realized that hailrake build is better than armlet/bkb

Also the hero is good vs. burst damage heroes that are popular these days
rip
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
December 09 2015 21:38 GMT
#165
Who drafted for Vici? Why even pick VS.
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
December 09 2015 21:39 GMT
#166
Waow ice3!
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
December 09 2015 21:39 GMT
#167
On December 10 2015 06:35 Latham wrote:
What is this Wraith King pick? pocket strat? solid pick this patch? downright no respect from VP?

wraith king underrated hero tbh
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
December 09 2015 21:39 GMT
#168
On December 10 2015 06:36 Aldehyde wrote:
Who is the fourth guy casting? I can hear Winter, Merlini and kotlguy but can't place the fourth voice.

Fogged
rip
Aldehyde
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden939 Posts
December 09 2015 21:40 GMT
#169
Aight, thanks.
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
December 09 2015 21:42 GMT
#170
wraith king good hero
rip
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
December 09 2015 21:45 GMT
#171
That nice blademail timing from silent! Just as the shakle is hitting, he's all spikey
passive quaranstream fan
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
December 09 2015 21:46 GMT
#172
What a stomp. VG had a miracle rosh fight when everything went 100% right and it didn't even matter at all.
super gg
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
December 09 2015 21:47 GMT
#173
That's what you get for picking VS.
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
December 09 2015 21:48 GMT
#174
Wraith King basically lets you play xboct/EE style carry where you farm aggressively and run at people and they have to constantly make the decision of "Is his team behind him I don't know but this weird ghost is running at me and waving a sword"
rip
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-09 21:52:00
December 09 2015 21:49 GMT
#175
On December 10 2015 05:23 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2015 05:10 Dracolich70 wrote:
Not sure why some think OG are dependant on patch. They are probably the team to be least dependant on patch.


If you look at their drafting style, you can see how similar they are to Alliance 2013. There is a fixed pattern.

For example:

1) If they are FP, they ban any heroes except Doom/SF/Wisp. They may 2nd ban Doom only if opponent doesn't first ban SF or Wisp. This way, it guarantees them always either of this 3 heroes, while they can control whether or not Doom is given away.

2) They often leave their mid and carry to 4th/5th pick. Their first 3 picks are generally flexible supports. This opens them to adapt and punish via Huskar/Meepo/PL/AM.

For a team so reliant on drafting with a rigid pattern, a patch can shake everything up easily.
They draft according to what they are comfortable with in this patch, but even in similar drafts they play it totally differently, and they will also swap heroes to other players.

Fact of the matter is they have a plethora of strategies, and it doesn't depend on heroes picked, thus patch is totally irrelevant. They are comfortable in playing a farm game, early to mid push, split push, counter push, 4 prot 1, 5 man. They have great team fight communication, and understand itemization and the timings.
LiangHao
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 09 2015 21:50 GMT
#176
Fact of the matter is wait until a team has played on more than one patch before you declare patch relevant or irrelevant
also fact of the matter is OG aint playing atm lets discuss CHINA IN FLAMES AZARKON IS DOING IT
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
December 09 2015 21:52 GMT
#177
On December 10 2015 06:50 Sn0_Man wrote:
Fact of the matter is wait until a team has played on more than one patch before you declare patch relevant or irrelevant
also fact of the matter is OG aint playing atm lets discuss CHINA IN FLAMES AZARKON IS DOING IT

I think my sig sums up this matter
rip
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-09 21:58:53
December 09 2015 21:53 GMT
#178
On December 10 2015 06:50 Sn0_Man wrote:
Fact of the matter is wait until a team has played on more than one patch before you declare patch relevant or irrelevant
also fact of the matter is OG aint playing atm lets discuss CHINA IN FLAMES AZARKON IS DOING IT
They have played two patches already. They have by far the most games by any post TI. I have watched 95% of them.

Patch is irrelevant because they are not dependant on heroes to pick strategies, and have not cornered themselves into strategies, but have the most by any..
LiangHao
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
December 09 2015 21:55 GMT
#179
Was game 1 good?
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
December 09 2015 21:56 GMT
#180
It's not WK. It's the combo of WK + AA. They come in a pair
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