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On September 30 2015 05:56 ref4 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 05:49 Super_Style wrote:On September 30 2015 05:38 TomatoBisque wrote:
I suspect that like many teams before it, MB lacks a strong leader You need leadership to bring in line amazing potential like rtz, miralce and sumail and get the best out of them, but im not sure leadership is gonna magically make notail a good carry... he should honestly wake up, its not 2009 and you are no longer the best mid laner in the game of HoN. Just go back to supporting with fly, they did it before and they did it well. i mean he can prob grind out pubs nonstop with only carry heroes and achieve a maximum power level of 40% RTZ, that's not too bad right?
In theory yes, but its notail, he doesnt give a shit what anyone says or what anyone thinks and hes the captain of the team(i know fly drafts and has that captain flag on liquipedia but we all know this is notails team) Hes not just gonna shut up, get better and start listening to whatever his "captain" says.
My question is, how long before miracle gets sick of solo carrying these games(yes in game 2 and game 3 he wasnt good, but just shows that MB without miracle at his best is not a competitive team) and looks for another team... problem is, there are like 3 decent teams in the west and non of them needs a carry player, even one as good as miracle. Id personally like him on secret, hes got a good captain in puppy and EE could play a support with miracle and w33 as cores.
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Throwing it out there, but Miracle didn't have a great series and Fly is arguably having even worse games than NoTail. I've been saying NoTail has been generally quite bad since leaving Secret, but let's not pretend that he's the only thing holding MB back.
Also, a couple series losses after a patch don't mean a great deal. MB is probably still third best team in Europe, maybe 4th-5th best team outside China. At worst they're 7th or so.
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On September 30 2015 06:09 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Throwing it out there, but Miracle didn't have a great series and Fly is arguably having even worse games than NoTail. I've been saying NoTail has been generally quite bad since leaving Secret, but let's not pretend that he's the only thing holding MB back.
Also, a couple series losses after a patch don't mean a great deal. MB is probably still third best team in Europe, maybe 4th-5th best team outside China. At worst they're 7th or so.
True, its not like china is doing well, they look as bad as the rest of the scene. At this point everything looks like a giant free win for eg... guess we'll have to wait for mlg and esl to see how good everyone is on the stage and compared to teams that stayed together since ti.
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5th best non-china team is like 9-10th world on a good day, at 7th best you're looking at 13-16th at TI.
And to be honest I think they're lucky to get that, EG/VP/Secret already pushes them to 4th best non-China, and then they have to compete with like, Vega, C9, 5Jungz, CISR, MVP Phoenix? Maybe Fnatic too, I have no idea how good they are.
Also reminder that people thought China would flop at TI5 and then they took 2-4 and a 5/6 slot. They might lose to EG but they're still better than MB
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On September 30 2015 06:30 TomatoBisque wrote:
5th best non-china team is like 9-10th world on a good day, at 7th best you're looking at 13-16th at TI.
And to be honest I think they're lucky to get that, EG/VP/Secret already pushes them to 4th best non-China, and then they have to compete with like, Vega, C9, 5Jungz, CISR, MVP Phoenix? Maybe Fnatic too, I have no idea how good they are.
Also reminder that people thought China would flop at TI5 and then they took 2-4 and a 5/6 slot. They might lose to EG but they're still better than MB
to be fair, the people who thought china would flop are the same people who thought EU was amazing and empire top 3 etc. etc. everyone knows to respect China when TI rolls around
and also, 9-10th in the world might seriously be the cap on a team without an amazing captain? It's not like fly/notail have placed that much higher on fnatic which had great teamwork (and a meta that favored them) back during the TI3 era
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True but they had deadweight of trixi and h4nni and not 8 0 0 0 M M R
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cdec was like the john cena of ti5, except they lost
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On September 30 2015 07:35 Stancel wrote:
cdec was like the john cena of ti5, except they lost
it is truly amazing that a singaporean is the one bringing in WWE references
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On September 30 2015 14:17 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 07:35 Stancel wrote:
cdec was like the john cena of ti5, except they lost it is truly amazing that a singaporean is the one bringing in WWE references
dank memes across national boundaries
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On September 30 2015 06:28 Super_Style wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 06:09 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Throwing it out there, but Miracle didn't have a great series and Fly is arguably having even worse games than NoTail. I've been saying NoTail has been generally quite bad since leaving Secret, but let's not pretend that he's the only thing holding MB back.
Also, a couple series losses after a patch don't mean a great deal. MB is probably still third best team in Europe, maybe 4th-5th best team outside China. At worst they're 7th or so. True, its not like china is doing well, they look as bad as the rest of the scene. At this point everything looks like a giant free win for eg... guess we'll have to wait for mlg and esl to see how good everyone is on the stage and compared to teams that stayed together since ti.
you say all this but we have yet to see EG play once since TI5 ended.
so a bunch of baseless speculations.
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Russian Federation40186 Posts
Today i learned: Aegis description in-map is not updated in Reborn.
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Only one that crashes
blames reborn
?????
Maybe it is at his end???
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kotlguy and godz don't seem to realize that shaker was mid, so 5jungz thought they could take a fight 5v4
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On October 01 2015 01:30 an00bis wrote:
Only one that crashes
blames reborn
?????
Maybe it is at his end???
Every fucking caster crashes all the time in reborn in the beginning of the game.
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Finally someone buys pipe. Lina plus gyro justifies the pickup and it helps since Ember is very aggressive so he needs the buffer HP.
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On October 01 2015 02:02 mutantmagnet wrote:
Finally someone buys pipe. Lina plus gyro justifies the pickup and it helps since Ember is very aggressive so he needs the buffer HP.
too bad lina has aghs now
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Yeah Solo plays a position 3 Lina
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Russian Federation40186 Posts
Who the fuck even picks a single carry Ember. Also, this game actually looks like tier 1 Chinese-ish game, despite the tier 2 draft.
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And now Ember predictably forgets he is Ember and dies. Not to discredit the plays by Vega and JerAx tho.
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EPT
