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Russian Federation40186 Posts
On September 30 2015 04:57 Super_Style wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 04:51 Kabras wrote:On September 30 2015 04:46 Super_Style wrote:On September 30 2015 04:37 dutchfriese wrote:On September 30 2015 04:35 babysimba wrote:
It's possible to zone bm out without leeching too much of lc's xp. Brood is at her weakest during the first 2 levels. What is more important is that doom needs xp to win bottom lane. Even if QoP rotates to attempt to kill the bottom dual lane, it doesn't hurt that much. I'm very confident a doom jakiro lane will rape so much harder than with an extra orge leeching xp. They could have let spectre farm bottom, it was definitely an option to run Doom top and zone out of the brood. They honestly just got out drafted this game, there was no real ideal lane setup they could have done. and vega with the game losing last pick again MB's draft looks quite good. Should be easy for them. vega draft is all over the place Ok, Vega's draft is definitely all over the place. And they gave up Doom, RIP Vega. Whats with calling outdraft anytime someone dies in this game, i mean seriously people, since when did this game get decided in pick and ban phase ? Cant we actually admit and give praise to the players for outplays and not call it an outdraft? This game wasnt an outdraft by either team, it was qop and brood simply outplaying their counterparts and snowballing into a win. Makes me so mad when people just randomly say "gg this team outdrafted this team" like all players are clones and play at the same skill lvl all the time with no potential whatsoever for an outplay. no i'm not gonna give vega credit for ember's misplays and monkey's decision to trilane doom, sry. So you are not going to give credit to qop player(noone) for outplaying miracle, the most hyped player in EU now and mag for playing brood without spiderlings to counter the counter hero on her lane ? I dont get it, so what of other people who called an outdraft by MB, saying vega lost the game in draft, are they retarded then ? Thinking games are won and lost simply due to draft is a very wrong attitude to have in this game.
Look, ember needs to actually misplay to die to QoP solo in lane. Heavily misplay. Especially 8000 mmr ember.
Also, in this game ultimately, it all comes down to draft.
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On September 30 2015 04:59 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 04:57 Super_Style wrote:On September 30 2015 04:51 Kabras wrote:On September 30 2015 04:46 Super_Style wrote:On September 30 2015 04:37 dutchfriese wrote:On September 30 2015 04:35 babysimba wrote:
It's possible to zone bm out without leeching too much of lc's xp. Brood is at her weakest during the first 2 levels. What is more important is that doom needs xp to win bottom lane. Even if QoP rotates to attempt to kill the bottom dual lane, it doesn't hurt that much. I'm very confident a doom jakiro lane will rape so much harder than with an extra orge leeching xp. They could have let spectre farm bottom, it was definitely an option to run Doom top and zone out of the brood. They honestly just got out drafted this game, there was no real ideal lane setup they could have done. and vega with the game losing last pick again MB's draft looks quite good. Should be easy for them. vega draft is all over the place Ok, Vega's draft is definitely all over the place. And they gave up Doom, RIP Vega. Whats with calling outdraft anytime someone dies in this game, i mean seriously people, since when did this game get decided in pick and ban phase ? Cant we actually admit and give praise to the players for outplays and not call it an outdraft? This game wasnt an outdraft by either team, it was qop and brood simply outplaying their counterparts and snowballing into a win. Makes me so mad when people just randomly say "gg this team outdrafted this team" like all players are clones and play at the same skill lvl all the time with no potential whatsoever for an outplay. no i'm not gonna give vega credit for ember's misplays and monkey's decision to trilane doom, sry. So you are not going to give credit to qop player(noone) for outplaying miracle, the most hyped player in EU now and mag for playing brood without spiderlings to counter the counter hero on her lane ? I dont get it, so what of other people who called an outdraft by MB, saying vega lost the game in draft, are they retarded then ? Thinking games are won and lost simply due to draft is a very wrong attitude to have in this game. Look, ember needs to actually misplay to die to QoP solo in lane. Heavily misplay. Especially 8000 mmr ember. Also, in this game ultimately, it all comes down to draft.
You just admitted in your previous post that you favored MB's draft but they lost due to mistakes... how can you now say it came down to the draft.
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all in on the ogre at lvl 1 really
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Russian Federation40186 Posts
On September 30 2015 05:01 Super_Style wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 04:59 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 30 2015 04:57 Super_Style wrote:On September 30 2015 04:51 Kabras wrote:On September 30 2015 04:46 Super_Style wrote:On September 30 2015 04:37 dutchfriese wrote:On September 30 2015 04:35 babysimba wrote:
It's possible to zone bm out without leeching too much of lc's xp. Brood is at her weakest during the first 2 levels. What is more important is that doom needs xp to win bottom lane. Even if QoP rotates to attempt to kill the bottom dual lane, it doesn't hurt that much. I'm very confident a doom jakiro lane will rape so much harder than with an extra orge leeching xp. They could have let spectre farm bottom, it was definitely an option to run Doom top and zone out of the brood. They honestly just got out drafted this game, there was no real ideal lane setup they could have done. and vega with the game losing last pick again MB's draft looks quite good. Should be easy for them. vega draft is all over the place Ok, Vega's draft is definitely all over the place. And they gave up Doom, RIP Vega. Whats with calling outdraft anytime someone dies in this game, i mean seriously people, since when did this game get decided in pick and ban phase ? Cant we actually admit and give praise to the players for outplays and not call it an outdraft? This game wasnt an outdraft by either team, it was qop and brood simply outplaying their counterparts and snowballing into a win. Makes me so mad when people just randomly say "gg this team outdrafted this team" like all players are clones and play at the same skill lvl all the time with no potential whatsoever for an outplay. no i'm not gonna give vega credit for ember's misplays and monkey's decision to trilane doom, sry. So you are not going to give credit to qop player(noone) for outplaying miracle, the most hyped player in EU now and mag for playing brood without spiderlings to counter the counter hero on her lane ? I dont get it, so what of other people who called an outdraft by MB, saying vega lost the game in draft, are they retarded then ? Thinking games are won and lost simply due to draft is a very wrong attitude to have in this game. Look, ember needs to actually misplay to die to QoP solo in lane. Heavily misplay. Especially 8000 mmr ember. Also, in this game ultimately, it all comes down to draft. You just admitted in your previous post that you favored MB's draft but they lost due to mistakes... how can you now say it came down to the draft.
I say that in grand picture draft is most important part of pr0 doto, and the only more important part is not making stupid mistakes.
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everytime i've watched n0tail play LD it was awful
idunno at least he has afree lane though
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notail is going to have to work hard to screw this one up
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they are even baby sitting him idk i feel like they should just be roaming or something
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Russian Federation40186 Posts
Hard? All he needs to do is to stand in weave for 15 seconds and then rush in with main hero.
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On September 30 2015 05:02 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 05:01 Super_Style wrote:On September 30 2015 04:59 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 30 2015 04:57 Super_Style wrote:On September 30 2015 04:51 Kabras wrote:On September 30 2015 04:46 Super_Style wrote:On September 30 2015 04:37 dutchfriese wrote:On September 30 2015 04:35 babysimba wrote:
It's possible to zone bm out without leeching too much of lc's xp. Brood is at her weakest during the first 2 levels. What is more important is that doom needs xp to win bottom lane. Even if QoP rotates to attempt to kill the bottom dual lane, it doesn't hurt that much. I'm very confident a doom jakiro lane will rape so much harder than with an extra orge leeching xp. They could have let spectre farm bottom, it was definitely an option to run Doom top and zone out of the brood. They honestly just got out drafted this game, there was no real ideal lane setup they could have done. and vega with the game losing last pick again MB's draft looks quite good. Should be easy for them. vega draft is all over the place Ok, Vega's draft is definitely all over the place. And they gave up Doom, RIP Vega. Whats with calling outdraft anytime someone dies in this game, i mean seriously people, since when did this game get decided in pick and ban phase ? Cant we actually admit and give praise to the players for outplays and not call it an outdraft? This game wasnt an outdraft by either team, it was qop and brood simply outplaying their counterparts and snowballing into a win. Makes me so mad when people just randomly say "gg this team outdrafted this team" like all players are clones and play at the same skill lvl all the time with no potential whatsoever for an outplay. no i'm not gonna give vega credit for ember's misplays and monkey's decision to trilane doom, sry. So you are not going to give credit to qop player(noone) for outplaying miracle, the most hyped player in EU now and mag for playing brood without spiderlings to counter the counter hero on her lane ? I dont get it, so what of other people who called an outdraft by MB, saying vega lost the game in draft, are they retarded then ? Thinking games are won and lost simply due to draft is a very wrong attitude to have in this game. Look, ember needs to actually misplay to die to QoP solo in lane. Heavily misplay. Especially 8000 mmr ember. Also, in this game ultimately, it all comes down to draft. You just admitted in your previous post that you favored MB's draft but they lost due to mistakes... how can you now say it came down to the draft. I say that in grand picture draft is most important part of pr0 doto, and the only more important part is not making stupid mistakes.
There you have it, all i wanted to point out. While draft is important, games are NOT decided by draft alone, mistakes and outplays have a far far more influence over the game then the draft.
Otherwise 5 random 3k mmr people could beat EG just by outdrafting them ^^ When the reality is that no matter the draft or hero match ups, sumail would probably just go like 20-0 and finish the game alone in 15 mins.
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no faith in monkey business to win this game
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Miracle is still top of net worth despite all these deaths
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MB supports have nothing and their cores are just throwing everything away
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the thing is MB should have this game easily... :/
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United States15275 Posts
I think they're pointing at the wrong spot, no? Didn't we just see a DS Vac -> Wall in that exact spot earlier today?
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Looked like two vacs failed to pull people up walls, once below the river and once at the pit. Is that a thing now?
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Yeah Moon tried to Vac them up to the designated ward spot by the medium camp
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is no tail making blademial
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On September 30 2015 04:46 Super_Style wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 04:37 dutchfriese wrote:On September 30 2015 04:35 babysimba wrote:
It's possible to zone bm out without leeching too much of lc's xp. Brood is at her weakest during the first 2 levels. What is more important is that doom needs xp to win bottom lane. Even if QoP rotates to attempt to kill the bottom dual lane, it doesn't hurt that much. I'm very confident a doom jakiro lane will rape so much harder than with an extra orge leeching xp. They could have let spectre farm bottom, it was definitely an option to run Doom top and zone out of the brood. They honestly just got out drafted this game, there was no real ideal lane setup they could have done. Show nested quote +Ok, Vega's draft is definitely all over the place. And they gave up Doom, RIP Vega. Whats with calling outdraft anytime someone dies in this game, i mean seriously people, since when did this game get decided in pick and ban phase ? Cant we actually admit and give praise to the players for outplays and not call it an outdraft? This game wasnt an outdraft by either team, it was qop and brood simply outplaying their counterparts and snowballing into a win. Makes me so mad when people just randomly say "gg this team outdrafted this team" like all players are clones and play at the same skill lvl all the time with no potential whatsoever for an outplay.
Who said they didn't out play them? They most certainly did. They skull fucked them in game 2 and there was no chance for MB to come back because it was.... an out draft. I don't know why you're getting mad when I'm merely stating what should be obvious to anyone with a brain.
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