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TomatoBisque
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TheTenthDoc
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dutchfriese
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On September 30 2015 04:27 apes wrote: brood wrecked that lane so hard I didn't actually think it was going to work, but the two points into bite was really smart. I'm impressed. | ||
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Super_Style
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Wouldnt that be even worse for MB ? Brood would get an even bigger xp advantage and would proceed to right click the support in the lane with LC and theres nothing LC can do, hes not even 6 yet, and they wouldnt have shut down the spectre farm as they did. What won this game for vega was qop snowballing mid with those 2 1v1 kills and then roamed bot and top to get both of those lanes ahead. | ||
babysimba
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dutchfriese
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On September 30 2015 04:31 Super_Style wrote: Wouldnt that be even worse for MB ? Brood would get an even bigger xp advantage and would proceed to right click the support in the lane with LC and theres nothing LC can do, hes not even 6 yet, and they wouldnt have shut down the spectre farm as they did. What won this game for vega was qop snowballing mid with those 2 1v1 kills and then roamed bot and top to get both of those lanes ahead. Yeah once QoP won mid this game was over, they definitely couldn't afford to lose that lane. They really needed ES top and a different hero mid that wasn't LC. | ||
TomatoBisque
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dutchfriese
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On September 30 2015 04:35 babysimba wrote: It's possible to zone bm out without leeching too much of lc's xp. Brood is at her weakest during the first 2 levels. What is more important is that doom needs xp to win bottom lane. Even if QoP rotates to attempt to kill the bottom dual lane, it doesn't hurt that much. I'm very confident a doom jakiro lane will rape so much harder than with an extra orge leeching xp. They could have let spectre farm bottom, it was definitely an option to run Doom top and zone out of the brood. They honestly just got out drafted this game, there was no real ideal lane setup they could have done. | ||
babysimba
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TomatoBisque
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The trilane delayed the max scorched earth so doom was weak | ||
lolfail9001
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apes
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dutchfriese
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On September 30 2015 04:40 babysimba wrote: I don't think you realise how strong doom is during laning now. This game doesn't even show half of his potential nope. I do. It was an outdraft. | ||
Super_Style
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On September 30 2015 04:37 dutchfriese wrote: They could have let spectre farm bottom, it was definitely an option to run Doom top and zone out of the brood. They honestly just got out drafted this game, there was no real ideal lane setup they could have done. and vega with the game losing last pick again MB's draft looks quite good. Should be easy for them. vega draft is all over the place Ok, Vega's draft is definitely all over the place. And they gave up Doom, RIP Vega. Whats with calling outdraft anytime someone dies in this game, i mean seriously people, since when did this game get decided in pick and ban phase ? Cant we actually admit and give praise to the players for outplays and not call it an outdraft? This game wasnt an outdraft by either team, it was qop and brood simply outplaying their counterparts and snowballing into a win. Makes me so mad when people just randomly say "gg this team outdrafted this team" like all players are clones and play at the same skill lvl all the time with no potential whatsoever for an outplay. | ||
Kabras
Romania3508 Posts
On September 30 2015 04:40 babysimba wrote: I don't think you realise how strong doom is during laning now. This game doesn't even show half of his potential It's strong if he's solo and gets exp and gets to use devour, he's a hero that needs to play from ahead, kinda like alchemist and meepo. trilaning doom is pretty ??. | ||
Kabras
Romania3508 Posts
On September 30 2015 04:46 Super_Style wrote: Whats with calling outdraft anytime someone dies in this game, i mean seriously people, since when did this game get decided in pick and ban phase ? Cant we actually admit and give praise to the players for outplays and not call it an outdraft? This game wasnt an outdraft by either team, it was qop and brood simply outplaying their counterparts and snowballing into a win. Makes me so mad when people just randomly say "gg this team outdrafted this team" like all players are clones and play at the same skill lvl all the time with no potential whatsoever for an outplay. no i'm not gonna give vega credit for ember's misplays and monkey's decision to trilane doom, sry. | ||
lolfail9001
Russian Federation40186 Posts
On September 30 2015 04:46 Super_Style wrote: Whats with calling outdraft anytime someone dies in this game, i mean seriously people, since when did this game get decided in pick and ban phase ? Cant we actually admit and give praise to the players for outplays and not call it an outdraft? This game wasnt an outdraft by either team, it was qop and brood simply outplaying their counterparts and snowballing into a win. Makes me so mad when people just randomly say "gg this team outdrafted this team" like all players are clones and play at the same skill lvl all the time with no potential whatsoever for an outplay. Will only address my call: Doom was anything but weak hero in about every 6.85 game i have seen, and i did call it before i got to see how Miracle- manages to solo die to QoP in first minutes and they aggro tri Doom when he can wreck shit with actual level advantage, not when he has lvl5 when spectre hits 6. Quiet honestly, i would favor MB's draft just because it could actually do dangerous stuff. Instead they manage to fuck up the only lane they had a chance of not fucking up, do nothing to stop the brood and M8000 actually did not show up. EDIT: Ewww, Vega Ember. EDIT2: http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1830116002 GUYS I KNOW WHY MB WERE NOT GG-ING. | ||
TomatoBisque
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Super_Style
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On September 30 2015 04:51 Kabras wrote: no i'm not gonna give vega credit for ember's misplays and monkey's decision to trilane doom, sry. So you are not going to give credit to qop player(noone) for outplaying miracle, the most hyped player in EU now and mag for playing brood without spiderlings to counter the counter hero on her lane ? I dont get it, so what of other people who called an outdraft by MB, saying vega lost the game in draft, are they retarded then ? Thinking games are won and lost simply due to draft is a very wrong attitude to have in this game. | ||
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