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TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
September 29 2015 19:29 GMT
#1541
QoP destroyed them more, rekt miracle and tipped the safelane in vega's favor
rip
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
September 29 2015 19:29 GMT
#1542
Even if LC is super far ahead of the Brood I don't think she can ever duel her without MKB AND insatiable hunger being down.
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
September 29 2015 19:29 GMT
#1543
On September 30 2015 04:27 apes wrote:
brood wrecked that lane so hard


I didn't actually think it was going to work, but the two points into bite was really smart. I'm impressed.

dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
September 29 2015 19:30 GMT
#1544
This was a straight up out draft by Vega. The brood pick didn't seem good but I learned something new about Brood.
Super_Style
Profile Joined February 2015
296 Posts
September 29 2015 19:31 GMT
#1545
On September 30 2015 04:25 babysimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 04:25 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 30 2015 04:23 babysimba wrote:
Pretty sure doom can win that 1v3 lane lol. Should have just went 2-1-2. Doom needs that xp to rekt stuff


2-1-2 ? Huh? What's the reasoning behind that build?

I meant lanes

Wouldnt that be even worse for MB ? Brood would get an even bigger xp advantage and would proceed to right click the support in the lane with LC and theres nothing LC can do, hes not even 6 yet, and they wouldnt have shut down the spectre farm as they did. What won this game for vega was qop snowballing mid with those 2 1v1 kills and then roamed bot and top to get both of those lanes ahead.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
September 29 2015 19:35 GMT
#1546
It's possible to zone bm out without leeching too much of lc's xp. Brood is at her weakest during the first 2 levels. What is more important is that doom needs xp to win bottom lane. Even if QoP rotates to attempt to kill the bottom dual lane, it doesn't hurt that much. I'm very confident a doom jakiro lane will rape so much harder than with an extra orge leeching xp.
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
September 29 2015 19:35 GMT
#1547
On September 30 2015 04:31 Super_Style wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 04:25 babysimba wrote:
On September 30 2015 04:25 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 30 2015 04:23 babysimba wrote:
Pretty sure doom can win that 1v3 lane lol. Should have just went 2-1-2. Doom needs that xp to rekt stuff


2-1-2 ? Huh? What's the reasoning behind that build?

I meant lanes

Wouldnt that be even worse for MB ? Brood would get an even bigger xp advantage and would proceed to right click the support in the lane with LC and theres nothing LC can do, hes not even 6 yet, and they wouldnt have shut down the spectre farm as they did. What won this game for vega was qop snowballing mid with those 2 1v1 kills and then roamed bot and top to get both of those lanes ahead.


Yeah once QoP won mid this game was over, they definitely couldn't afford to lose that lane. They really needed ES top and a different hero mid that wasn't LC.
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
September 29 2015 19:35 GMT
#1548
I think the term is "fantasy gg timing"?
rip
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
September 29 2015 19:37 GMT
#1549
On September 30 2015 04:35 babysimba wrote:
It's possible to zone bm out without leeching too much of lc's xp. Brood is at her weakest during the first 2 levels. What is more important is that doom needs xp to win bottom lane. Even if QoP rotates to attempt to kill the bottom dual lane, it doesn't hurt that much. I'm very confident a doom jakiro lane will rape so much harder than with an extra orge leeching xp.


They could have let spectre farm bottom, it was definitely an option to run Doom top and zone out of the brood. They honestly just got out drafted this game, there was no real ideal lane setup they could have done.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
September 29 2015 19:40 GMT
#1550
I don't think you realise how strong doom is during laning now. This game doesn't even show half of his potential
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
September 29 2015 19:41 GMT
#1551
Maxed scorched earth is 768 damage/healing over the duration, you can just run at supports and they can't do anything to you

The trilane delayed the max scorched earth so doom was weak
rip
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
September 29 2015 19:42 GMT
#1552
Double silver edge LMAO.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
apes
Profile Joined October 2011
United States826 Posts
September 29 2015 19:42 GMT
#1553
nice draft and wp from vega, wasnt expecting that at all
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
September 29 2015 19:42 GMT
#1554
On September 30 2015 04:40 babysimba wrote:
I don't think you realise how strong doom is during laning now. This game doesn't even show half of his potential


nope. I do. It was an outdraft.
Super_Style
Profile Joined February 2015
296 Posts
September 29 2015 19:46 GMT
#1555
On September 30 2015 04:37 dutchfriese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 04:35 babysimba wrote:
It's possible to zone bm out without leeching too much of lc's xp. Brood is at her weakest during the first 2 levels. What is more important is that doom needs xp to win bottom lane. Even if QoP rotates to attempt to kill the bottom dual lane, it doesn't hurt that much. I'm very confident a doom jakiro lane will rape so much harder than with an extra orge leeching xp.


They could have let spectre farm bottom, it was definitely an option to run Doom top and zone out of the brood. They honestly just got out drafted this game, there was no real ideal lane setup they could have done.

and vega with the game losing last pick again

MB's draft looks quite good. Should be easy for them.

vega draft is all over the place

Ok, Vega's draft is definitely all over the place. And they gave up Doom, RIP Vega.

Whats with calling outdraft anytime someone dies in this game, i mean seriously people, since when did this game get decided in pick and ban phase ? Cant we actually admit and give praise to the players for outplays and not call it an outdraft?
This game wasnt an outdraft by either team, it was qop and brood simply outplaying their counterparts and snowballing into a win.
Makes me so mad when people just randomly say "gg this team outdrafted this team" like all players are clones and play at the same skill lvl all the time with no potential whatsoever for an outplay.
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
September 29 2015 19:47 GMT
#1556
On September 30 2015 04:40 babysimba wrote:
I don't think you realise how strong doom is during laning now. This game doesn't even show half of his potential

It's strong if he's solo and gets exp and gets to use devour, he's a hero that needs to play from ahead, kinda like alchemist and meepo. trilaning doom is pretty ??.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
September 29 2015 19:51 GMT
#1557
On September 30 2015 04:46 Super_Style wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 04:37 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 30 2015 04:35 babysimba wrote:
It's possible to zone bm out without leeching too much of lc's xp. Brood is at her weakest during the first 2 levels. What is more important is that doom needs xp to win bottom lane. Even if QoP rotates to attempt to kill the bottom dual lane, it doesn't hurt that much. I'm very confident a doom jakiro lane will rape so much harder than with an extra orge leeching xp.


They could have let spectre farm bottom, it was definitely an option to run Doom top and zone out of the brood. They honestly just got out drafted this game, there was no real ideal lane setup they could have done.

Show nested quote +
and vega with the game losing last pick again

Show nested quote +
MB's draft looks quite good. Should be easy for them.

Show nested quote +
vega draft is all over the place

Show nested quote +
Ok, Vega's draft is definitely all over the place. And they gave up Doom, RIP Vega.

Whats with calling outdraft anytime someone dies in this game, i mean seriously people, since when did this game get decided in pick and ban phase ? Cant we actually admit and give praise to the players for outplays and not call it an outdraft?
This game wasnt an outdraft by either team, it was qop and brood simply outplaying their counterparts and snowballing into a win.
Makes me so mad when people just randomly say "gg this team outdrafted this team" like all players are clones and play at the same skill lvl all the time with no potential whatsoever for an outplay.

no i'm not gonna give vega credit for ember's misplays and monkey's decision to trilane doom, sry.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-29 19:57:20
September 29 2015 19:52 GMT
#1558
On September 30 2015 04:46 Super_Style wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 04:37 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 30 2015 04:35 babysimba wrote:
It's possible to zone bm out without leeching too much of lc's xp. Brood is at her weakest during the first 2 levels. What is more important is that doom needs xp to win bottom lane. Even if QoP rotates to attempt to kill the bottom dual lane, it doesn't hurt that much. I'm very confident a doom jakiro lane will rape so much harder than with an extra orge leeching xp.


They could have let spectre farm bottom, it was definitely an option to run Doom top and zone out of the brood. They honestly just got out drafted this game, there was no real ideal lane setup they could have done.

Show nested quote +
and vega with the game losing last pick again

Show nested quote +
MB's draft looks quite good. Should be easy for them.

Show nested quote +
vega draft is all over the place

Show nested quote +
Ok, Vega's draft is definitely all over the place. And they gave up Doom, RIP Vega.

Whats with calling outdraft anytime someone dies in this game, i mean seriously people, since when did this game get decided in pick and ban phase ? Cant we actually admit and give praise to the players for outplays and not call it an outdraft?
This game wasnt an outdraft by either team, it was qop and brood simply outplaying their counterparts and snowballing into a win.
Makes me so mad when people just randomly say "gg this team outdrafted this team" like all players are clones and play at the same skill lvl all the time with no potential whatsoever for an outplay.

Will only address my call: Doom was anything but weak hero in about every 6.85 game i have seen, and i did call it before i got to see how Miracle- manages to solo die to QoP in first minutes and they aggro tri Doom when he can wreck shit with actual level advantage, not when he has lvl5 when spectre hits 6. Quiet honestly, i would favor MB's draft just because it could actually do dangerous stuff. Instead they manage to fuck up the only lane they had a chance of not fucking up, do nothing to stop the brood and M8000 actually did not show up.

EDIT: Ewww, Vega Ember.

EDIT2: http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1830116002 GUYS I KNOW WHY MB WERE NOT GG-ING.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
September 29 2015 19:56 GMT
#1559
That first phase Brood ban tho
rip
Super_Style
Profile Joined February 2015
296 Posts
September 29 2015 19:57 GMT
#1560
On September 30 2015 04:51 Kabras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 04:46 Super_Style wrote:
On September 30 2015 04:37 dutchfriese wrote:
On September 30 2015 04:35 babysimba wrote:
It's possible to zone bm out without leeching too much of lc's xp. Brood is at her weakest during the first 2 levels. What is more important is that doom needs xp to win bottom lane. Even if QoP rotates to attempt to kill the bottom dual lane, it doesn't hurt that much. I'm very confident a doom jakiro lane will rape so much harder than with an extra orge leeching xp.


They could have let spectre farm bottom, it was definitely an option to run Doom top and zone out of the brood. They honestly just got out drafted this game, there was no real ideal lane setup they could have done.

and vega with the game losing last pick again

MB's draft looks quite good. Should be easy for them.

vega draft is all over the place

Ok, Vega's draft is definitely all over the place. And they gave up Doom, RIP Vega.

Whats with calling outdraft anytime someone dies in this game, i mean seriously people, since when did this game get decided in pick and ban phase ? Cant we actually admit and give praise to the players for outplays and not call it an outdraft?
This game wasnt an outdraft by either team, it was qop and brood simply outplaying their counterparts and snowballing into a win.
Makes me so mad when people just randomly say "gg this team outdrafted this team" like all players are clones and play at the same skill lvl all the time with no potential whatsoever for an outplay.

no i'm not gonna give vega credit for ember's misplays and monkey's decision to trilane doom, sry.

So you are not going to give credit to qop player(noone) for outplaying miracle, the most hyped player in EU now and mag for playing brood without spiderlings to counter the counter hero on her lane ?
I dont get it, so what of other people who called an outdraft by MB, saying vega lost the game in draft, are they retarded then ?
Thinking games are won and lost simply due to draft is a very wrong attitude to have in this game.
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