yesterday or the day before biryu went 0-4-0 into 0-5-6 shaker in a game they won with him initiating like 0 of the kills he's just not good at that hero (if any hero)

CrazyBirdman

Germany3509 Posts

September 13 2015 23:13 GMT

#467

On September 14 2015 08:11 Mensol wrote:
I dont know if its because EE's observer but i have yet to see Biryu using proper echo slam.

It really wasn't his game. I don't think he was able to finish his Blink this game.

Weasel-

Canada1556 Posts

September 13 2015 23:17 GMT

#468

On September 14 2015 08:11 Mensol wrote:
I dont know if its because EE's observer but i have yet to see Biryu using proper echo slam.

Probably more to do with not having a blink at like 50 minutes in

Asjo

Denmark664 Posts

September 13 2015 23:18 GMT

#469

Decent game, but I have to say that compared to the crazy action we saw from the European teams in the last week, this match just felt so ... slow :D

Didn't catch the start of this match, so I didn't see the suicide kills from Techies. But watching the rest, it certainly felt as if Cloud9 won despite the techies doing very little for them, apart from a bit of vision, a bit of lane pushing and tower damage. I suppose it might have forced DC to group together more, not venturing too far without a gem. But of course a well-fed anti-mage can mostly do it alone in the right situation. And Aui did feed away a terrible lot of familiars to the wind ranger as well.

TheTenthDoc

United States9561 Posts

September 13 2015 23:21 GMT

#470

I think that game did a good job showcasing why SF has fallen off. Bajillion cs and couldn't do anything.

SpiritoftheTunA

United States20903 Posts

September 13 2015 23:21 GMT

#471

On September 14 2015 08:21 TheTenthDoc wrote:
I think that game did a good job showcasing why SF has fallen off. Bajillion cs and couldn't do anything.

that logic leaves the question of why and if he was ever actually good in the first place

theres irony in that secret's dominance with qop + sf in 6.83, which was more of a comeback patch, involved rolling the early and midgame into rax by 30-40 minutes almost every time, never actually a comeback

SpiritoftheTunA

United States20903 Posts

September 13 2015 23:25 GMT

#472

aui definitely has a big ego regarding his techies prowess lets see if he can back it up

andyrau

13015 Posts

September 13 2015 23:27 GMT

#473

im sure sf was meant to played as a dual core, it's just tc couldnt get anything early game

i think we've seen very similar drafts with secret where rtz has a billion cs but s4 simply couldn't get enough farm to make it work

TheTenthDoc

United States9561 Posts

September 13 2015 23:27 GMT

#474

On September 14 2015 08:21 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:

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that logic leaves the question of why and if he was ever actually good in the first place

I think the realization of the core heroes in 6.84 did him in, he's not really good versus any of them. Antimage especially shits all over SF. It helps that the game is no longer as early-midgame as it was in early 6.84 I feel like.

Obviously that's all gut feelings though.

SpiritoftheTunA

United States20903 Posts

September 13 2015 23:31 GMT

#475

On September 14 2015 08:27 andyrau wrote:
im sure sf was meant to played as a dual core, it's just tc couldnt get anything early game

i think we've seen very similar drafts with secret where rtz has a billion cs but s4 simply couldn't get enough farm to make it work

wr had comparable farm to the ember though... if sf almost invariably ends up as his team's most farmed, does it even make sense to pick a super-farm-dependent lategame hero like ember?

but yea i definitely agree that sf is pretty trash vs am in general