EPT[ESL One] New York 2015 Qualifiers - Page 4
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SpiritoftheTunA
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lolfail9001
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On September 01 2015 01:42 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: outside of bamboe going "trust me guys i can offlane gyro just dual lane the qop in the safelane trust me guys" I meant line-up as in players, not this disaster of laning decisions for draft. EDIT: Maelstrom already dropping jokes about 4CL having 5 days to disband and reband. | ||
Pandemona
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lolfail9001
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On September 01 2015 01:44 Pandemona wrote: Haha, nice synergy from MFF but not sure if it just looks even better due to how poor 4CL playing? Second much more than first. | ||
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bluzi
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Xendarii
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lolfail9001
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On September 01 2015 01:46 Xendarii wrote: Did anyone really expect 4C&L to play good? I mean, i did not expect them to play this bad. I mean, for fuck's sake, they are getting stomped by a team that was knocked out of pre-qualifier by bunch of greeks (even tho LC were legit tier 2 team, ain't no questioning that). | ||
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SkelA
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Pandemona
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Pandemona
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dutchfriese
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Xendarii
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On September 01 2015 01:50 SkelA wrote: Dunno which is worse the plays or the draft for 4cl. I think draft takes the win just barely. I actually think draft takes the win by far. They can't really do anything with these line-ups, and because they're getting absolutely stomped, they look like they play extremely bad. But I think them getting stomped really is a consequence of their horrible drafting. I mean, Gyro offlane, getting zero farm, having no game impact whatsoever, that's just dumb. Plus, Bamboe just plays exactly like I thought he would (like a 2k scrub). | ||
Elyvilon
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On September 01 2015 01:46 bluzi wrote: Are NiP game is going to be competitive ? anyone heard of the other team ? It's a Turkish team that won a Turkish qualifier, I've never seen them play before. Their teamwork will probably be better than 4CL's was this game, but they'll probably still be significantly outclassed. On September 01 2015 01:47 lolfail9001 wrote: I mean, i did not expect them to play this bad. I mean, for fuck's sake, they are getting stomped by a team that was knocked out of pre-qualifier by bunch of greeks. Am I the only one who thinks the ex-London Conspiracy team is actually a quite good tier 3 team*? *My definition of tiers is, very roughly, tier 1 is a real threat to win TI/big international major, tier 2 is teams that consistently qualify/are invited to the former, and tier 3 are the teams who consistently show up to the big qualifiers/do well in smaller, more regional tournaments, so I don't see tier 3 as an insult. Edit: Oh you edited. | ||
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lolfail9001
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On September 01 2015 01:53 Xendarii wrote: I actually think draft takes the win by far. They can't really do anything with these line-ups, and because they're getting absolutely stomped, they look like they play extremely bad. But I think them getting stomped really is a consequence of their horrible drafting. I mean, Gyro offlane, getting zero farm, having no game impact whatsoever, that's just dumb. Plus, Bamboe just plays exactly like I though he would (like a 2k scrub). Their game 1 draft was pretty good tbh, they just played it out rather bad plus Ar1se Magnus. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
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you lose so much of a streak bounty if you have the penalty when you get it | ||
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lolfail9001
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On September 01 2015 01:53 Elyvilon wrote: It's a Turkish team that won a Turkish qualifier, I've never seen them play before. Their teamwork will probably be better than 4CL's was this game, but they'll probably still be significantly outclassed. Am I the only one who thinks the ex-London Conspiracy team is actually a quite good tier 3 team*? *My definition of tiers is, very roughly, tier 1 is a real threat to win TI/big international major, tier 2 is teams that consistently qualify/are invited to the former, and tier 3 are the teams who consistently show up to the big qualifiers/do well in smaller, more regional tournaments, so I don't see tier 3 as an insult. I mean, for me tier 1 is regular premier visitor, tier 2 is qualifier warriors that are pretty good in small tournaments and tier 3 is this game. So, by my definition i can agree with you, LC/GB are pretty good tier 2 (in my terms) team. | ||
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bluzi
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On September 01 2015 01:53 Elyvilon wrote: It's a Turkish team that won a Turkish qualifier, I've never seen them play before. Their teamwork will probably be better than 4CL's was this game, but they'll probably still be significantly outclassed. Am I the only one who thinks the ex-London Conspiracy team is actually a quite good tier 3 team*? *My definition of tiers is, very roughly, tier 1 is a real threat to win TI/big international major, tier 2 is teams that consistently qualify/are invited to the former, and tier 3 are the teams who consistently show up to the big qualifiers/do well in smaller, more regional tournaments, so I don't see tier 3 as an insult. Edit: Oh you edited. Thanks for the heads up on the turkish team , ill be watching i like seeing unknown stacks play togther ! | ||
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Xendarii
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On September 01 2015 01:54 lolfail9001 wrote: Their game 1 draft was pretty good tbh, they just played it out rather bad plus Ar1se Magnus. I don't actually think so, they had a serious midgame disadvantage, not only because of their bad plays (although they were a huge factor). It was better than the second game draft though. | ||
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Pandemona
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lolfail9001
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On September 01 2015 01:58 Xendarii wrote: I don't actually think so, they had a serious midgame disadvantage, not only because of their bad plays (although they were a huge factor). It was better than the second game draft though. Their midgame disadvantage was pretty easy to dicipher: Yaphor (his name, right?) farmed, while EGM/Saksa did not do nearly enough to compensate for that. | ||
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