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A few USA chants are fine but please don't do it too much.

Stop the stupid USA arguments, thanks.

On another note, CDEC flairs are now live. Sorry about the delay on that.
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1420 Posts
August 08 2015 23:05 GMT
#3821
On August 09 2015 08:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 08:03 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On August 09 2015 08:02 TiTanIum_ wrote:
On August 09 2015 08:01 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 09 2015 07:58 Logo wrote:
On August 09 2015 07:57 Canucklehead wrote:
Disgraceful game by cdec! This is why no winner's advantage is a joke!


Because a team that plays that poorly should still have an equal chance of winning as the team that beat them?


Yes because cdec is the only team not given a 2nd life. The sole reason why there is no winner's advantage is due to having a hyped finals but it comes at the expense of integrity and fairness. This is not how double eliminations tourneys are run. All the tournaments like evo/sc2 etc run double elimination tourneys properly and fairly.


EG already played today, so there's your winner's advantage.


This.

It is what it is, please lets not debate the validity of CDEC not having a "second life", like in every tournament ever.

That's really arguable advantage since you can say EG have the momentum, while CDEC have a fresh match.

momentum is such a theoretical concept though. actual rest and more time to observe opponents isn't.
TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
August 08 2015 23:05 GMT
#3822
On August 09 2015 08:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 08:03 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On August 09 2015 08:02 TiTanIum_ wrote:
On August 09 2015 08:01 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 09 2015 07:58 Logo wrote:
On August 09 2015 07:57 Canucklehead wrote:
Disgraceful game by cdec! This is why no winner's advantage is a joke!


Because a team that plays that poorly should still have an equal chance of winning as the team that beat them?


Yes because cdec is the only team not given a 2nd life. The sole reason why there is no winner's advantage is due to having a hyped finals but it comes at the expense of integrity and fairness. This is not how double eliminations tourneys are run. All the tournaments like evo/sc2 etc run double elimination tourneys properly and fairly.


EG already played today, so there's your winner's advantage.


This.

It is what it is, please lets not debate the validity of CDEC not having a "second life", like in every tournament ever.

That's really arguable advantage since you can say EG have the momentum, while CDEC have a fresh match.



I guess you never had to be this stressed for this long.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
August 08 2015 23:05 GMT
#3823
On August 09 2015 08:03 PhoenixVoid wrote:
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On August 09 2015 08:02 GumBa wrote:
This Kaci just makes me cringe

I notice a lot of Germans call Kaci "cringe".


Should've seen all the people calling Germans who asked questions/talked in an interview during Gamescom's Blizzard events/panels.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 08 2015 23:05 GMT
#3824
On August 09 2015 08:05 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 08:03 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On August 09 2015 08:02 GumBa wrote:
This Kaci just makes me cringe

I notice a lot of Germans call Kaci "cringe".

Germans are a cold and ruthless people. Do you not know what they did?






That 7-1 was so fucking unnecessary

Saved Greece?
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
August 08 2015 23:05 GMT
#3825
c'mon aui, ee kicked you, you don't have to be 2nd anymore
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
August 08 2015 23:05 GMT
#3826
On August 09 2015 08:03 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 07:57 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 09 2015 07:54 Azarkon wrote:
On August 09 2015 07:52 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 09 2015 07:39 Azarkon wrote:
I win this year, sorry Chinese fans.


Nah you lost for sure. EG winning means nothing. EG were legitimate favorites to win this tournament and anyone who follows/understands DOTA already knew this coming in. Everyone who knows DOTA also understands that china has the most talent top to bottom.


Sumail > everyone in China, PPD > everyone in China, Fear ~ Chinese top players... I'm able to go on but don't need to.

China hasn't won a single tournament in recent months.

Take whatever you want from this. But I win.

You lost, China won at least 3 tournaments including 1 international LAN with your favorite-before-TI team.

They won 2 premier tournaments of 11. And only SL12 had decent western opposition.

Things are like they were back at TI3. East has 4-5 top teams, West has 2. West 2 are probably a little ahead of the pack.

Secret is not ahead of the pack.
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-08 23:05:58
August 08 2015 23:05 GMT
#3827
On August 09 2015 08:03 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 08:02 GumBa wrote:
This Kaci just makes me cringe

I notice a lot of Germans call Kaci "cringe".

krintsch*
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
kefif
Profile Joined December 2009
Poland264 Posts
August 08 2015 23:05 GMT
#3828
On August 09 2015 08:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 08:03 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On August 09 2015 08:02 TiTanIum_ wrote:
On August 09 2015 08:01 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 09 2015 07:58 Logo wrote:
On August 09 2015 07:57 Canucklehead wrote:
Disgraceful game by cdec! This is why no winner's advantage is a joke!


Because a team that plays that poorly should still have an equal chance of winning as the team that beat them?


Yes because cdec is the only team not given a 2nd life. The sole reason why there is no winner's advantage is due to having a hyped finals but it comes at the expense of integrity and fairness. This is not how double eliminations tourneys are run. All the tournaments like evo/sc2 etc run double elimination tourneys properly and fairly.


EG already played today, so there's your winner's advantage.


This.

It is what it is, please lets not debate the validity of CDEC not having a "second life", like in every tournament ever.

That's really arguable advantage since you can say EG have the momentum, while CDEC have a fresh match.

But they had time to see their drafts vs LGD and figure out their playstyle. I doubt any team would hold back strats in the lower bracket finals.
ヾ(⌐■_■)ノ♪
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-08 23:06:15
August 08 2015 23:05 GMT
#3829
On August 09 2015 08:03 Emnjay808 wrote:
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On August 09 2015 08:01 FHDH wrote:
I'm on course to get zero TI5 drops and I'm very emo about it

What were those Blink 182 lyrics again

Adams Song? Stay Together for the Kids?

Yeah anyway I was a Tool/AIC/NIN fan during this period (and still) and this was a trap congratulations on liking a band I didn't like SUCKER
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
kazyv
Profile Joined May 2013
273 Posts
August 08 2015 23:05 GMT
#3830
does cdec at least get pick priority for first and 5th game? or is it random?
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
August 08 2015 23:06 GMT
#3831
Their drafting is so fast.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Baozi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1191 Posts
August 08 2015 23:06 GMT
#3832
what is this same game
"Universe is very spacey, we called him space man. He made a lot of space." - Arteezy
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
August 08 2015 23:06 GMT
#3833
On August 09 2015 08:03 sirreginold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 08:01 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 09 2015 07:58 Logo wrote:
On August 09 2015 07:57 Canucklehead wrote:
Disgraceful game by cdec! This is why no winner's advantage is a joke!


Because a team that plays that poorly should still have an equal chance of winning as the team that beat them?


Yes because cdec is the only team not given a 2nd life. The sole reason why there is no winner's advantage is due to having a hyped finals but it comes at the expense of integrity and fairness. This is not how double eliminations tourneys are run. All the tournaments like evo/sc2 etc run double elimination tourneys properly and fairly.


And if you are the better team you have 5 games to show that you deserve 1st place. Stay salty.


If you're the better team then you shouldn't have needed a 2nd life to begin with. Valve should do group stage into single elimination if they don't want to run a double elimination tourney fairly.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
August 08 2015 23:06 GMT
#3834
I wanted to watch game 2, but I seem to be watching a replay of game 1
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
anonymitylol
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada4477 Posts
August 08 2015 23:06 GMT
#3835
if cdec runs this lesh as a support again they deserve to lose
gold on my wrist phone in my pocket
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
August 08 2015 23:06 GMT
#3836
SAME DRAFT
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
August 08 2015 23:06 GMT
#3837
DE
JA
VU
DE
JA
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DEJAVU
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Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
August 08 2015 23:06 GMT
#3838
lmao be funny if's all same game same bans.
Getting too old for this..
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 08 2015 23:06 GMT
#3839
is this a replay
posting on liquid sites in current year
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
August 08 2015 23:06 GMT
#3840
On August 09 2015 08:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 08:03 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On August 09 2015 08:02 TiTanIum_ wrote:
On August 09 2015 08:01 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 09 2015 07:58 Logo wrote:
On August 09 2015 07:57 Canucklehead wrote:
Disgraceful game by cdec! This is why no winner's advantage is a joke!


Because a team that plays that poorly should still have an equal chance of winning as the team that beat them?


Yes because cdec is the only team not given a 2nd life. The sole reason why there is no winner's advantage is due to having a hyped finals but it comes at the expense of integrity and fairness. This is not how double eliminations tourneys are run. All the tournaments like evo/sc2 etc run double elimination tourneys properly and fairly.


EG already played today, so there's your winner's advantage.


This.

It is what it is, please lets not debate the validity of CDEC not having a "second life", like in every tournament ever.

That's really arguable advantage since you can say EG have the momentum, while CDEC have a fresh match.


The concept of momentum is something so silly in sports... As it has virtually no resemblance to the literal meaning of the word.

EG had 2 hours to think about plans for CDEC, already a bit tired, probably prepared 99% for LGD. Yeah, I dunno, I don't really buy the winning the previous match gives you an advantage for the next match.

At worst, EG and CDEC come on an even playing field, and I think that's fine.
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