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On August 07 2015 06:04 Reson wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 05:56 Shergal wrote:
There's a lot of people here that are putting way too much stock into turtling strats after some of the previous Main Stage games.
It's very possible to beat turtling strats with proper map control and the right comp, this hysteria about "having lategame" and "breaking highground" is way exaggerated Way to misjudge what people are actually saying. It's not turtling, it's using what your line up is good at instead of doing things that your line up isn't designed for. They to try to burst heroes in the mid game when they have no damage then get destroyed cause they used all their spells. On the other hand if they didn't try to engage and Secret tried to engage, one song, global silence, and/or stone gaze then their initiation is broken. The main difference between VP and EG/Secret is that when they have the strategic advantage especially a defensive one, they are patient enough to wait for their opponents to fall into their trap then punish. If VP never forced an engagement Secret has to go look for them cause they can just let Medusa get enough damage. Sitting Naga behind Medusa was pretty much auto disengage every time at least for 10-15 more minutes. If VP wants do fight mid game then they should draft accordingly but that was poor execution of draft not a fundamental problem with the draft.
Pretty much.Secret wasn't even playing well, their attempts at forcing engagements all failed in the early game and maybe that made fng misjudge their position and try that retarded play, but I'm just gonna call it cis doto because they deserve the flak every time.
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On August 07 2015 06:07 Frazzlehoon wrote:LOL. Why are people complaining about him? I like it.  He's been fine after those first comments.
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On August 07 2015 06:06 BurningSera wrote:
This guy not only bad player but also talks too much shit, navi salty on alliance and he shares the feels???where the fuck was he
I guess you didn't udnerstand the point, lol. He's just saying all competitors understand how others feel when defeated, especially when you've been in similar situations (aka TI).
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On August 07 2015 06:07 Frazzlehoon wrote:LOL. Why are people complaining about him? I like it.
He's fun, I like him too. Not a completely angel of a soul, but he's honest, and brings interesting information.
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is S4 still drafting or is puppy back at it?
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On August 07 2015 06:08 IshinShishi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 06:04 Reson wrote:On August 07 2015 05:56 Shergal wrote:
There's a lot of people here that are putting way too much stock into turtling strats after some of the previous Main Stage games.
It's very possible to beat turtling strats with proper map control and the right comp, this hysteria about "having lategame" and "breaking highground" is way exaggerated Way to misjudge what people are actually saying. It's not turtling, it's using what your line up is good at instead of doing things that your line up isn't designed for. They to try to burst heroes in the mid game when they have no damage then get destroyed cause they used all their spells. On the other hand if they didn't try to engage and Secret tried to engage, one song, global silence, and/or stone gaze then their initiation is broken. The main difference between VP and EG/Secret is that when they have the strategic advantage especially a defensive one, they are patient enough to wait for their opponents to fall into their trap then punish. If VP never forced an engagement Secret has to go look for them cause they can just let Medusa get enough damage. Sitting Naga behind Medusa was pretty much auto disengage every time at least for 10-15 more minutes. If VP wants do fight mid game then they should draft accordingly but that was poor execution of draft not a fundamental problem with the draft. Pretty much.Secret wasn't even playing well, their attempts at forcing engagements all failed in the early game and maybe that made fng misjudge their position and try that retarded play, but I'm just gonna call it cis doto because they deserve the flak every time.
CIS doto best doto so I wouldn't worry about it.
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On August 07 2015 06:06 BurningSera wrote:
This guy not only bad player but also talks too much shit, navi salty on alliance and he shares the feels???where the fuck was he
ok now you're just being overly sensitive lol that was just a well-known example
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On August 07 2015 06:08 Darpa wrote:
is S4 still drafting or is puppy back at it?
Currently its S4
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On August 07 2015 06:08 Darpa wrote:
is S4 still drafting or is puppy back at it?
s4 still in captain slot.
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Did Swindlemoneyzz just say mayta?
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On August 07 2015 06:08 WindWolf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 06:08 Darpa wrote:
is S4 still drafting or is puppy back at it? Currently its S4
I think switching captains mid tournament would be disastrous.
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On August 07 2015 06:09 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 06:08 WindWolf wrote:On August 07 2015 06:08 Darpa wrote:
is S4 still drafting or is puppy back at it? Currently its S4 I think switching captains mid tournament would be disastrous.
I'm sure that Secret can pull it off.
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On August 07 2015 06:07 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I think swindle is a cool dude. He's not very likable, but he looks to be himself
People being themselves isn't admirable unless who they are has merit and they face consequences over it. So I really don't understand this sentiment.
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On August 07 2015 06:08 TheEmulator wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 06:06 BurningSera wrote:
This guy not only bad player but also talks too much shit, navi salty on alliance and he shares the feels???where the fuck was he I guess you didn't udnerstand the point, lol. He's just saying all competitors understand how others feel when defeated, especially when you've been in similar situations (aka TI).
I know what he meant but he is in no position to talk about stuffs like that lol
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Poll: Recommend VP vs. Secret Game 1?Yes (11) 31% If you have time (4) 11% No (21) 58% 36 total votes Your vote: Recommend VP vs. Secret Game 1? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): If you have time
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That shot of s4 and Puppey thinking what to pick.
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On August 07 2015 06:09 plasmidghost wrote:
Did Swindlemoneyzz just say mayta?
yup
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On August 07 2015 06:08 Grettin wrote:
luna inb for secret
Nice call
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