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If all the teams had completely equal matchups against each other, Secret should have something like a 1% of being TI champs from their current position. So in other words, they have to really start throwing around all that weight they supposedly have.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
Nah that is superspartan
Hasnt posted dor like a year tho i think
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On August 05 2015 14:33 synapse wrote:Exactly what we've been telling you about your teams.
They DID win. Every tournament. For two months.
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On August 05 2015 14:33 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
eastern azarkon is sleepydreams yo
i thought it was forthedarkseid .. but yeah sleepdreams i prolly the closest
On August 05 2015 14:35 Kipsate wrote:
Nah that is superspartan
Hasnt posted dor like a year tho i think
i think i saw superspartan ones last night or earlier
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On August 05 2015 14:35 shad2810 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 14:32 goody153 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:29 chosenkerrigan wrote:On August 05 2015 14:27 lolfail9001 wrote:
In the end so far this TI is really about Grand Western Choke so far, i so called it. Either that or Chinese teams are simply better. please don;t be the chinese azarkon please don;t be the chinese azarkon please don;t be the chinese azarkon please don;t be the chinese azarkon imo heading into TI5 the west are better but people underestimated that the chinese teams and written them off On August 05 2015 14:26 Shock710 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:24 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On August 05 2015 14:22 Shock710 wrote:
does this mean now that pld was betrayed envy is the bad guy? and pld's new reformed team will rise up at ti6 and take out envy in the finals? For the epic anime season conclusion of
dotao-no-envy i think this is just one of those fucked up anime where there are no happy endings or even climactic moments hopefully it turns into a rom-com then with who xiitzu But a chinese azarkon would be fun. We can get the popcorn ready and see how they fight it out. Heck even get our SEA azarkon too and have a three way fight.
you missed superstartran going in hard at Azarkon. He popped off then left
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darkseid is up there too but he's not as direct about it as azarkon/sleepydreams
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thank you VG. My curse is lifted xD
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On August 05 2015 14:35 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 14:33 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
eastern azarkon is sleepydreams yo i thought it was forthedarkseid .. but yeah sleepdreams i prolly the closest Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 14:35 Kipsate wrote:
Nah that is superspartan
Hasnt posted dor like a year tho i think i think i saw superspartan ones last night or earlier
he literally just popped off tonight after the Ehome/Secret series
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On August 05 2015 14:36 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 14:35 shad2810 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:32 goody153 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:29 chosenkerrigan wrote:On August 05 2015 14:27 lolfail9001 wrote:
In the end so far this TI is really about Grand Western Choke so far, i so called it. Either that or Chinese teams are simply better. please don;t be the chinese azarkon please don;t be the chinese azarkon please don;t be the chinese azarkon please don;t be the chinese azarkon imo heading into TI5 the west are better but people underestimated that the chinese teams and written them off On August 05 2015 14:26 Shock710 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:24 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On August 05 2015 14:22 Shock710 wrote:
does this mean now that pld was betrayed envy is the bad guy? and pld's new reformed team will rise up at ti6 and take out envy in the finals? For the epic anime season conclusion of
dotao-no-envy i think this is just one of those fucked up anime where there are no happy endings or even climactic moments hopefully it turns into a rom-com then with who xiitzu But a chinese azarkon would be fun. We can get the popcorn ready and see how they fight it out. Heck even get our SEA azarkon too and have a three way fight. you missed superstartran going in hard at Azarkon. He popped off then left
so chinese azarkon lost ;;
well at least west > east azarkon matchups lol
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On August 05 2015 14:05 Ultimo Hombre wrote:
ouch C9 didnt win a single game on the main event, must be hard for the players
they also the team that lose most games after raxing and/or having a decisive advantage.
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On August 05 2015 14:37 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 14:36 bagels21 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:35 shad2810 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:32 goody153 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:29 chosenkerrigan wrote:On August 05 2015 14:27 lolfail9001 wrote:
In the end so far this TI is really about Grand Western Choke so far, i so called it. Either that or Chinese teams are simply better. please don;t be the chinese azarkon please don;t be the chinese azarkon please don;t be the chinese azarkon please don;t be the chinese azarkon imo heading into TI5 the west are better but people underestimated that the chinese teams and written them off On August 05 2015 14:26 Shock710 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:24 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On August 05 2015 14:22 Shock710 wrote:
does this mean now that pld was betrayed envy is the bad guy? and pld's new reformed team will rise up at ti6 and take out envy in the finals? For the epic anime season conclusion of
dotao-no-envy i think this is just one of those fucked up anime where there are no happy endings or even climactic moments hopefully it turns into a rom-com then with who xiitzu But a chinese azarkon would be fun. We can get the popcorn ready and see how they fight it out. Heck even get our SEA azarkon too and have a three way fight. you missed superstartran going in hard at Azarkon. He popped off then left so chinese azarkon lost ;; well at least west > east azarkon matchups lol
Well azarkon can be happy for at least something right???
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On August 05 2015 14:37 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 14:36 bagels21 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:35 shad2810 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:32 goody153 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:29 chosenkerrigan wrote:On August 05 2015 14:27 lolfail9001 wrote:
In the end so far this TI is really about Grand Western Choke so far, i so called it. Either that or Chinese teams are simply better. please don;t be the chinese azarkon please don;t be the chinese azarkon please don;t be the chinese azarkon please don;t be the chinese azarkon imo heading into TI5 the west are better but people underestimated that the chinese teams and written them off On August 05 2015 14:26 Shock710 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:24 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On August 05 2015 14:22 Shock710 wrote:
does this mean now that pld was betrayed envy is the bad guy? and pld's new reformed team will rise up at ti6 and take out envy in the finals? For the epic anime season conclusion of
dotao-no-envy i think this is just one of those fucked up anime where there are no happy endings or even climactic moments hopefully it turns into a rom-com then with who xiitzu But a chinese azarkon would be fun. We can get the popcorn ready and see how they fight it out. Heck even get our SEA azarkon too and have a three way fight. you missed superstartran going in hard at Azarkon. He popped off then left so chinese azarkon lost ;; well at least west > east azarkon matchups lol
http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24670110
nah it was a drop the mic moment
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Sanya12364 Posts
On August 05 2015 14:38 shad2810 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 14:37 goody153 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:36 bagels21 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:35 shad2810 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:32 goody153 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:29 chosenkerrigan wrote:On August 05 2015 14:27 lolfail9001 wrote:
In the end so far this TI is really about Grand Western Choke so far, i so called it. Either that or Chinese teams are simply better. please don;t be the chinese azarkon please don;t be the chinese azarkon please don;t be the chinese azarkon please don;t be the chinese azarkon imo heading into TI5 the west are better but people underestimated that the chinese teams and written them off On August 05 2015 14:26 Shock710 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:24 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On August 05 2015 14:22 Shock710 wrote:
does this mean now that pld was betrayed envy is the bad guy? and pld's new reformed team will rise up at ti6 and take out envy in the finals? For the epic anime season conclusion of
dotao-no-envy i think this is just one of those fucked up anime where there are no happy endings or even climactic moments hopefully it turns into a rom-com then with who xiitzu But a chinese azarkon would be fun. We can get the popcorn ready and see how they fight it out. Heck even get our SEA azarkon too and have a three way fight. you missed superstartran going in hard at Azarkon. He popped off then left so chinese azarkon lost ;; well at least west > east azarkon matchups lol Well azarkon can be happy for at least something right???
That is so meta.
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On August 05 2015 14:38 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 14:05 Ultimo Hombre wrote:
ouch C9 didnt win a single game on the main event, must be hard for the players they also the team that lose most games after raxing and/or having a decisive advantage.
I loved that on-screen statistic that stated C9 was involved in top the five turn-arounds in DotA 2, four of which they lost.
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On August 05 2015 14:38 shad2810 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 14:37 goody153 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:36 bagels21 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:35 shad2810 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:32 goody153 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:29 chosenkerrigan wrote:On August 05 2015 14:27 lolfail9001 wrote:
In the end so far this TI is really about Grand Western Choke so far, i so called it. Either that or Chinese teams are simply better. please don;t be the chinese azarkon please don;t be the chinese azarkon please don;t be the chinese azarkon please don;t be the chinese azarkon imo heading into TI5 the west are better but people underestimated that the chinese teams and written them off On August 05 2015 14:26 Shock710 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:24 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On August 05 2015 14:22 Shock710 wrote:
does this mean now that pld was betrayed envy is the bad guy? and pld's new reformed team will rise up at ti6 and take out envy in the finals? For the epic anime season conclusion of
dotao-no-envy i think this is just one of those fucked up anime where there are no happy endings or even climactic moments hopefully it turns into a rom-com then with who xiitzu But a chinese azarkon would be fun. We can get the popcorn ready and see how they fight it out. Heck even get our SEA azarkon too and have a three way fight. you missed superstartran going in hard at Azarkon. He popped off then left so chinese azarkon lost ;; well at least west > east azarkon matchups lol Well azarkon can be happy for at least something right???
so dank
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Well, I guess Secret aint the frontrunners anymore. But I think they still have a good shot at taking this TI. Maybe 15% or so.
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On August 05 2015 13:24 superstartran wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 13:17 Azarkon wrote:On August 05 2015 13:17 Valhalla44 wrote:On August 05 2015 13:15 Azarkon wrote:On August 05 2015 13:15 Valhalla44 wrote:On August 05 2015 13:14 Azarkon wrote:
You want to know how to beat VG, just watch how they got destroyed by the Americans. Yo wheres West teams in upper bracket azarkon? Americans are there. Wasnt this TI to be dominated by west? Europeans failed again. How about you just admit for once that the Chinese teams are simply better at teamplay, and that's what matters at the highest level. Only EG really has shown teamwork/5 man discipline that is on par with the Chinese teams. It's easy to look good when you dominate and never face adversity, but LGD/Vici/EHOME (who happen to be captained by VERY good captains) all are playing extremely disciplined DotA even when behind. You can see this in how they play, even when they are behind they never abandon their gameplan like c9, secret, Empire, and other Western teams have. It's like they lose a few fights and just totally abandon their gameplan.
oh snap
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On August 05 2015 14:35 Kipsate wrote:
Nah that is superspartan
Hasnt posted dor like a year tho i think
I actually had Secret winning this tournament, with EG taking 2nd or 3rd with LGD maybe swapping places in the top 3. Everyone else was gonna be scattered and totally random after that, with possible upsets here and there. Now, that's still possible, but highly unlikely with how things are playing out.
To a degree, alot of that came down to me underestimating the level of play that ROTK, Q, and fy are able to get out of their players. Xiao8 definitely was going to captain well and keep his team on a gameplan, but for ROTK and Q to get their younger players to play disciplined DotA speaks volumes of their ability to captain teams. You can see the absolute panic that happens to alot of the Western teams when shit does not go their way.
EG and to a lesser extent coL are the two Western teams so far who do not shit a brick when they get behind. Alot of this is due to the trust that these teams have in their captain, and you can tell just by the way they play. Decisions are made, and everyone listens. You can tell that Secret for example was not on the same page, especially G1 after things started to fall apart. Really poor and undisciplined play from both Rtz and S4 in alot of those games. And let's not even talk about C9, we all know that they lost G1 completely due to undisciplined play, which is a 100% direct result of poor captaining. That shit does not happen (or very rarely happens) to a team like EG or LGD, because their captains simply do not allow it.
You can also watch coL games and it's actually very rare for them to just totally abandon their gameplan and resort to undisciplined freestyling. Swindle doesn't really get alot of credit for his calls and his ability to make decisions; even though that almost every team completely outclasses coL on the individual skill level, the team plays absolutely disciplined, which means they usually end up winning more often than not even though alot of other teams outskill them at the core position.
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What a GREAT day of DotA!!!
Secret gets 0-2'ed, MVP 2-0's, C9 gets 0-2'ed!
Oh yea!
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Bosnia-Herzegovina983 Posts
im watching dat fy rubick highlight reel over and over.
And i can't stop fucking smilieing.
EDIT: But this day 2 is FULLLLL of highlights.
Some best plays i ever seen.
TA is the highlight hero honestly. Quite on the rise.
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