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On August 05 2015 14:14 DV G wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 14:10 Azarkon wrote:
Obviously in the end it's still going to be two Western teams vs. two Eastern teams. But laugh while you still are able to. Its the False hope The misspredictions The lack of realism The "CHinese fall and rise together" the "this year is the Western year, prepare your anus China" And so on and so forth A 2-2 China-EG/TS at top4 is still more than most people expected, and if we get 4 chinese teams top 8, or heck even top6 i'd be more than GREAT for what was expected, but keep rolling with your predicitions, so far we're enjoying them it seems.
It's like watching the 2012 US politics thread
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United States15275 Posts
On August 05 2015 14:12 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 14:10 bagels21 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:08 Loanshark wrote:On August 05 2015 14:07 stuchiu wrote:On August 05 2015 14:06 Loanshark wrote:
How much do I have to lose, before my heart will be forgiven? How much do you have to give? My life. My pride. My power. Given to C9 but it was not enough. It was never enough. I learned after the Summit 2 that it will never ever be enough Being a C9 fan sounds harder than being Batman.
Where's the Stockholm Syndrome?
SWEAR TO ME
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On August 05 2015 14:14 Orome wrote:
Easiest bracket contest of my life.
Hey Orome, major props to you. 
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On August 05 2015 14:11 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 14:10 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
I don't think anyone should be building a team around EE. He's a guy you pick up to complete a team you already have a good idea of and a captain/drafter for. the rarest commodity in dota is captain/drafter (and then maybe offlane). And until EE decided to make the bizarre swap to bone; he was both for c9
Heh. It's the rarest commodity only if we confine it to good captains/drafters, and with that qualification, EE wouldn't be one of them. You know, everyone just shouts support Tinker over and over again, but so far it seems like PLD was the best drafter C9 had.
I don't know that a good captain/drafter is rare, so much as it seems a lot harder for people to appreciate. It's dead obvious when someone is good at playing 1 position carry. Apparently it's not obvious when someone is good at drafting. I'd extend that to offlaners, since you mention them. I don't think good offlaners are rare so much as people don't understand what they are supposed to do and thus subject practically every single one to the same script about being horrible feeders.
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On August 05 2015 14:15 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 14:14 DV G wrote:On August 05 2015 14:10 Azarkon wrote:
Obviously in the end it's still going to be two Western teams vs. two Eastern teams. But laugh while you still are able to. Its the False hope The misspredictions The lack of realism The "CHinese fall and rise together" the "this year is the Western year, prepare your anus China" And so on and so forth A 2-2 China-EG/TS at top4 is still more than most people expected, and if we get 4 chinese teams top 8, or heck even top6 i'd be more than GREAT for what was expected, but keep rolling with your predicitions, so far we're enjoying them it seems. Did they not rise and fall together? I count five Chinese teams in the final ten. And don't count out the West before it's done.
I have LGD-TS-EG top3, I'm not counting anyone out.
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On August 05 2015 14:12 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 14:12 trinxified wrote:
thanks guys it looks like all games are must watch today. You must be a freak to watch second game of C9 vs VG. Albeit it shows that VG still have their ability to play well. come on it's a sniper game man although i fucking hate sniper it's still a unique pick this tournament
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On August 05 2015 14:08 eekmice wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 14:07 bagels21 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:06 Sabu113 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:03 thiagoop wrote:On August 05 2015 13:59 overt wrote:
Will be sad if team completely disbands. They're most entertaining team by far. Even if they're complete shit at dota.
They need to, bone7 is super bad for this level of dota, notail and EE lack synergy. Fata keep making bad descisions. Misery is the only one that did good, but this last game showed even him is being affected by how terrible their morale is at this point. It would be better to disband now than staying and fighting to remain a sad tier 3 team. The team is done. Envy can do better. Envy got too greedy; I think C9 as a team falls apart with possibly Envy and bone staying on. I don't think Envy will ever win TI with bone though they won't win a major tourney with bone.
I don't disagree with this at all. When the kicked PLD and aui, I thought it should have been bone instead of AUI. I can see why they picked PLD because misery is legit better IMO.
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Western Dota needs to win this TI to keep up the pattern.
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On August 05 2015 14:15 Danzo wrote:
Is Secret drafting starting to be too predictable? It's insane how everyone thought this team was THE unstoppable team, being paralleled to TI3 Alliance, yet they just get dumpstered by ROTK's drafts.
I mean, I like Secret and I thought their odds of winning were fairly low. Maybe higher than any other team in a predictive sense but... Just not enough going on there to call it for them at an event this competitive.
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On August 05 2015 14:16 DV G wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 14:15 Azarkon wrote:On August 05 2015 14:14 DV G wrote:On August 05 2015 14:10 Azarkon wrote:
Obviously in the end it's still going to be two Western teams vs. two Eastern teams. But laugh while you still are able to. Its the False hope The misspredictions The lack of realism The "CHinese fall and rise together" the "this year is the Western year, prepare your anus China" And so on and so forth A 2-2 China-EG/TS at top4 is still more than most people expected, and if we get 4 chinese teams top 8, or heck even top6 i'd be more than GREAT for what was expected, but keep rolling with your predicitions, so far we're enjoying them it seems. Did they not rise and fall together? I count five Chinese teams in the final ten. And don't count out the West before it's done. I have LGD-TS-EG top3, I'm not counting anyone out.
Then why are you even talking? A Western year does not indicate that all Western teams do well. I thought I went over this: Chinese teams rise and fall together, but the same is not the case for Western teams.
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On August 05 2015 14:16 dutchfriese wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 14:08 eekmice wrote:On August 05 2015 14:07 bagels21 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:06 Sabu113 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:03 thiagoop wrote:On August 05 2015 13:59 overt wrote:
Will be sad if team completely disbands. They're most entertaining team by far. Even if they're complete shit at dota.
They need to, bone7 is super bad for this level of dota, notail and EE lack synergy. Fata keep making bad descisions. Misery is the only one that did good, but this last game showed even him is being affected by how terrible their morale is at this point. It would be better to disband now than staying and fighting to remain a sad tier 3 team. The team is done. Envy can do better. Envy got too greedy; I think C9 as a team falls apart with possibly Envy and bone staying on. I don't think Envy will ever win TI with bone though they won't win a major tourney with bone. I don't disagree with this at all. When the kicked PLD and aui, I thought it should have been bone instead of AUI. I can see why they picked PLD because misery is legit better IMO.
Ehh, even if PLd slumped, pld's peek was stronger than misery.
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On August 05 2015 14:16 Evander Berry Wall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 14:11 bagels21 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:10 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
I don't think anyone should be building a team around EE. He's a guy you pick up to complete a team you already have a good idea of and a captain/drafter for. the rarest commodity in dota is captain/drafter (and then maybe offlane). And until EE decided to make the bizarre swap to bone; he was both for c9 Heh. It's the rarest commodity only if we confine it to good captains/drafters, and with that qualification, EE wouldn't be one of them. You know, everyone just shouts support Tinker over and over again, but so far it seems like PLD was the best drafter C9 had. I don't know that a good captain/drafter is rare, so much as it seems a lot harder for people to appreciate. It's dead obvious when someone is good at playing 1 position carry. Apparently it's not obvious when someone is good at drafting. I'd extend that to offlaners, since you mention them. I don't think good offlaners are rare so much as people don't understand what they are supposed to do and thus subject practically every single one to the same script about being horrible feeders.
pld was not better than ee, they both shared the same issue where they choked in important matches against formidable opponents and drafted weird as fuck after losing close games
bone7 also shares that latter trait incidentally
though i guess their elmination game at ti3 was a passable draft, they just threw their chances of playing the draft properly with the level 1 roshan call
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On August 05 2015 14:17 Kuroeeah wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 14:16 dutchfriese wrote:On August 05 2015 14:08 eekmice wrote:On August 05 2015 14:07 bagels21 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:06 Sabu113 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:03 thiagoop wrote:On August 05 2015 13:59 overt wrote:
Will be sad if team completely disbands. They're most entertaining team by far. Even if they're complete shit at dota.
They need to, bone7 is super bad for this level of dota, notail and EE lack synergy. Fata keep making bad descisions. Misery is the only one that did good, but this last game showed even him is being affected by how terrible their morale is at this point. It would be better to disband now than staying and fighting to remain a sad tier 3 team. The team is done. Envy can do better. Envy got too greedy; I think C9 as a team falls apart with possibly Envy and bone staying on. I don't think Envy will ever win TI with bone though they won't win a major tourney with bone. I don't disagree with this at all. When the kicked PLD and aui, I thought it should have been bone instead of AUI. I can see why they picked PLD because misery is legit better IMO. Ehh, even if PLd slumped, pld's peek was stronger than misery.
idk i like misery better
but i favor aui over notail .. notail just took the pieliedie mantle
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 05 2015 14:16 dutchfriese wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 14:08 eekmice wrote:On August 05 2015 14:07 bagels21 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:06 Sabu113 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:03 thiagoop wrote:On August 05 2015 13:59 overt wrote:
Will be sad if team completely disbands. They're most entertaining team by far. Even if they're complete shit at dota.
They need to, bone7 is super bad for this level of dota, notail and EE lack synergy. Fata keep making bad descisions. Misery is the only one that did good, but this last game showed even him is being affected by how terrible their morale is at this point. It would be better to disband now than staying and fighting to remain a sad tier 3 team. The team is done. Envy can do better. Envy got too greedy; I think C9 as a team falls apart with possibly Envy and bone staying on. I don't think Envy will ever win TI with bone though they won't win a major tourney with bone. I don't disagree with this at all. When the kicked PLD and aui, I thought it should have been bone instead of AUI. I can see why they picked PLD because misery is legit better IMO.
What a fool. Anime should have taught him you never kick a crew member out unless they betray you..
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On August 05 2015 14:17 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 14:16 DV G wrote:On August 05 2015 14:15 Azarkon wrote:On August 05 2015 14:14 DV G wrote:On August 05 2015 14:10 Azarkon wrote:
Obviously in the end it's still going to be two Western teams vs. two Eastern teams. But laugh while you still are able to. Its the False hope The misspredictions The lack of realism The "CHinese fall and rise together" the "this year is the Western year, prepare your anus China" And so on and so forth A 2-2 China-EG/TS at top4 is still more than most people expected, and if we get 4 chinese teams top 8, or heck even top6 i'd be more than GREAT for what was expected, but keep rolling with your predicitions, so far we're enjoying them it seems. Did they not rise and fall together? I count five Chinese teams in the final ten. And don't count out the West before it's done. I have LGD-TS-EG top3, I'm not counting anyone out. Then why are you even talking? A Western year does not indicate that all Western teams do well. I thought I went over this: Chinese teams rise and fall together, but the same is not the case for Western teams.
I'm talking about the Pride and Joy you bring to this forum, and all the fun we have with every word you type, thats all, dont get mad please.
Its only a game after all, and your predictions are wrong.
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Baa?21242 Posts
Found some dank posts on sgamer-
Right before he plays, rotk goes to the ig room, and says to burning - it's almost [chinese] valentines day, i have a gift for you. burning asks: "what is it?" rotk: "it's a secret"
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United States47024 Posts
So in the interest of re-watching the Bone7 Phoenix to see how he lost lane that badly, I got to see that he wasted his first 300 gold after Boots to buy Orb of Venom rather than finishing Tranqs.
Also, he didn't start with Boots, but bought it from sideshop after FB, and more or less just didn't know how to lasthit with Phoenix.
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On August 05 2015 14:12 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 14:10 bagels21 wrote:On August 05 2015 14:08 Loanshark wrote:On August 05 2015 14:07 stuchiu wrote:On August 05 2015 14:06 Loanshark wrote:
How much do I have to lose, before my heart will be forgiven? How much do you have to give? My life. My pride. My power. Given to C9 but it was not enough. It was never enough. I learned after the Summit 2 that it will never ever be enough Being a C9 fan sounds harder than being Batman.
I'm convinced that all of us C9 fans are guilty of some horrible sins in a past life and have to atone by being C9 fans.
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ppd better be ready for rOtK shenanigans tomorrow. LGD vs CDEC should be a good match to watch too.
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EPT
