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bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
August 04 2015 18:09 GMT
#481
On August 05 2015 03:07 Chessz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 03:04 bagels21 wrote:
On August 05 2015 03:03 Chessz wrote:
On August 05 2015 03:00 bagels21 wrote:
On August 05 2015 02:59 Chessz wrote:
On August 05 2015 02:57 bagels21 wrote:
On August 05 2015 02:56 solidbebe wrote:
On August 05 2015 02:55 Chessz wrote:
On August 05 2015 02:54 solidbebe wrote:
So why are col's players such terrible human beings? I dont even know their names


here's my commment:
I don't think there's a lot of NA players who steal money from teammates and kick them off of teams the day before travelling to the biggest event in the history of that game in favor of their little brothers.

Thats pretty shitty.. who did that?


that's PPD's biased perspective on an issue that has been discussed ad infinitum in the hon scene. It wasn't actually the case


what's the case then?


Here I will quote Slickz himself:

"Khezu and I left the team due to several factors:

1. As for the tax situation, Kyle failed to mention that the only issue of tax that was questioned with was why he wanted to withhold 30% US tax from a prize pool that was won in Thailand. 900,000 Thai Baht prize money was won in Thailand NOT the US. Even then, we do not work in the US, you said it yourself, we are in the US as visitors. As an Australian citizen I am responsible to declare all my tax return in Australia. It did not make ANY sense whatsoever to pay taxes TWICE. When we tried to explain this to him, his view on the tax situation did not change. We decided to approach our parents for advice which turned into a heated argument.

...

3. I did not once say or accuse ANYONE of stealing, neither did KheZu. Kyle was merely just withholding money, attempting to withhold taxes and taking an extremely long time to pay us. Even though eventually paid us out in the end, he was always extremely hostile when we simply asked why it was taking so long."



and you leave out:

"After failing to take 30% of the winnings for himself, he proceeded to pay us the right amounts which was good. But the fact that he tried to, and failed, is in itself fraud and really shady."

come on now


Again that is directly refuting your original statement. I don't like Col lol. I'm rooting for EG here, but I just find it hilarious that people are still grinding an Axe that ended years ago


ok so i said he stole money. forgive me. he really TRIED to. and if his teammates weren't diligent it appears like he fully intended to.

there is also this:

"9. In relation to Kyle’s statement, it clearly had half truths and major factors which you failed to mention to make KheZu and I look bad."

fuck swindlemelonz and zfreek and fuck complexity.


okay cool ,welcome to LiquidDota I guess
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
August 04 2015 18:09 GMT
#482
On August 05 2015 03:08 teapoted wrote:
"The game that shall not be named" joke has gotten old.

honestly most of your comments do to =-/
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
August 04 2015 18:09 GMT
#483
Lol is Merlini holding like 4 EGUSA flags?
TranslatorBaa!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 04 2015 18:09 GMT
#484
On August 05 2015 03:07 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 03:06 ViZe wrote:
On August 05 2015 03:01 beifru wrote:
On August 05 2015 03:00 Iceman331 wrote:
On August 05 2015 02:59 Kishin2 wrote:
"Aui and ppd... one of the best support duo..."

That's a new one...


PPD + zai was one of the best. Aui is a step down, but yea, one of the best is probably a stretch.


Man last year's EG was sickeningly good. Universe this year kinda lost that shine, but Sumail is there is pick it up, if he doesn't go Sufail.


I think the team as a whole is better than TI4 EG just because Fear is like 20x better than mason. the team has a bit of a different focus than it used to strategically and aui plays something of a different role than zai. The team usually relies on Universe and Sumail for the plays while aui does a bit more of the traditional support stuff than zai did

Aui is still mainly greedy 4 position zai used to be, except Aui is even greedier most of the time.

But Aui is magic and finds farm on the weirdest heroes. Every once and a while he randomly solos Ember/EE on a 4/skywrath.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 04 2015 18:09 GMT
#485
Real question guys: will techies be first phase ban?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
August 04 2015 18:09 GMT
#486
On August 05 2015 03:09 sc14s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 03:08 teapoted wrote:
"The game that shall not be named" joke has gotten old.

honestly most of your comments do to =-/
I'm sure they do.
Once you Goblak...
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44272 Posts
August 04 2015 18:09 GMT
#487
On August 05 2015 03:07 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 03:06 goody153 wrote:
On August 05 2015 03:02 bagels21 wrote:
On August 05 2015 03:01 beifru wrote:
On August 05 2015 03:00 Iceman331 wrote:
On August 05 2015 02:59 Kishin2 wrote:
"Aui and ppd... one of the best support duo..."

That's a new one...


PPD + zai was one of the best. Aui is a step down, but yea, one of the best is probably a stretch.


Man last year's EG was sickeningly good. Universe this year kinda lost that shine, but Sumail is there is pick it up, if he doesn't go Sufail.


in a few years people will look back and realize 2014 EG was like 2014 DK. A team full of talent/legends (outside of Mason lol)

i mean rtz said that he thinks old eg and new secret are on the same level and ppd said that old eg is has higher skillcap(greater potential) than the new eg ..


I agree, honestly if Fear didn't get hurt they would have possibly been the most talented team in the world.

well mason wasn't horrible but fear is definitely better
this is a quote
beifru
Profile Joined November 2013
2164 Posts
August 04 2015 18:09 GMT
#488
On August 05 2015 03:06 ViZe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 03:01 beifru wrote:
On August 05 2015 03:00 Iceman331 wrote:
On August 05 2015 02:59 Kishin2 wrote:
"Aui and ppd... one of the best support duo..."

That's a new one...


PPD + zai was one of the best. Aui is a step down, but yea, one of the best is probably a stretch.


Man last year's EG was sickeningly good. Universe this year kinda lost that shine, but Sumail is there is pick it up, if he doesn't go Sufail.


I think the team as a whole is better than TI4 EG just because Fear is like 20x better than mason. the team has a bit of a different focus than it used to strategically and aui plays something of a different role than zai. The team usually relies on Universe and Sumail for the plays while aui does a bit more of the traditional support stuff than zai did


I actually kinda disagree this iteration of EG is better.

As much as how unlikable mason is... he really did pull his weight and more on EG at TI4. Of course, we may argue that Fear would have done better, but we'll never know.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 04 2015 18:09 GMT
#489
On August 05 2015 03:09 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Lol is Merlini holding like 4 EGUSA flags?


one for each Merlini
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 04 2015 18:09 GMT
#490
On August 05 2015 03:09 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 03:07 Chessz wrote:
On August 05 2015 03:04 bagels21 wrote:
On August 05 2015 03:03 Chessz wrote:
On August 05 2015 03:00 bagels21 wrote:
On August 05 2015 02:59 Chessz wrote:
On August 05 2015 02:57 bagels21 wrote:
On August 05 2015 02:56 solidbebe wrote:
On August 05 2015 02:55 Chessz wrote:
On August 05 2015 02:54 solidbebe wrote:
So why are col's players such terrible human beings? I dont even know their names


here's my commment:
I don't think there's a lot of NA players who steal money from teammates and kick them off of teams the day before travelling to the biggest event in the history of that game in favor of their little brothers.

Thats pretty shitty.. who did that?


that's PPD's biased perspective on an issue that has been discussed ad infinitum in the hon scene. It wasn't actually the case


what's the case then?


Here I will quote Slickz himself:

"Khezu and I left the team due to several factors:

1. As for the tax situation, Kyle failed to mention that the only issue of tax that was questioned with was why he wanted to withhold 30% US tax from a prize pool that was won in Thailand. 900,000 Thai Baht prize money was won in Thailand NOT the US. Even then, we do not work in the US, you said it yourself, we are in the US as visitors. As an Australian citizen I am responsible to declare all my tax return in Australia. It did not make ANY sense whatsoever to pay taxes TWICE. When we tried to explain this to him, his view on the tax situation did not change. We decided to approach our parents for advice which turned into a heated argument.

...

3. I did not once say or accuse ANYONE of stealing, neither did KheZu. Kyle was merely just withholding money, attempting to withhold taxes and taking an extremely long time to pay us. Even though eventually paid us out in the end, he was always extremely hostile when we simply asked why it was taking so long."



and you leave out:

"After failing to take 30% of the winnings for himself, he proceeded to pay us the right amounts which was good. But the fact that he tried to, and failed, is in itself fraud and really shady."

come on now


Again that is directly refuting your original statement. I don't like Col lol. I'm rooting for EG here, but I just find it hilarious that people are still grinding an Axe that ended years ago


ok so i said he stole money. forgive me. he really TRIED to. and if his teammates weren't diligent it appears like he fully intended to.

there is also this:

"9. In relation to Kyle’s statement, it clearly had half truths and major factors which you failed to mention to make KheZu and I look bad."

fuck swindlemelonz and zfreek and fuck complexity.


okay cool ,welcome to LiquidDota I guess

He is making a great first impression.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
August 04 2015 18:09 GMT
#491
Fucking hell why cant they just start the damn game already
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42397 Posts
August 04 2015 18:10 GMT
#492
On August 05 2015 03:09 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Lol is Merlini holding like 4 EGUSA flags?




I would too.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
yyfpulls
Profile Joined November 2012
United States2185 Posts
August 04 2015 18:10 GMT
#493
its 11:09 COME ON start
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 04 2015 18:10 GMT
#494
On August 05 2015 03:09 lolfail9001 wrote:
Real question guys: will techies be first phase ban?


If this gets to game 3, all 10 players will play techies.
SUNSFANNED
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 04 2015 18:10 GMT
#495
On August 05 2015 03:09 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 03:07 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 05 2015 03:06 ViZe wrote:
On August 05 2015 03:01 beifru wrote:
On August 05 2015 03:00 Iceman331 wrote:
On August 05 2015 02:59 Kishin2 wrote:
"Aui and ppd... one of the best support duo..."

That's a new one...


PPD + zai was one of the best. Aui is a step down, but yea, one of the best is probably a stretch.


Man last year's EG was sickeningly good. Universe this year kinda lost that shine, but Sumail is there is pick it up, if he doesn't go Sufail.


I think the team as a whole is better than TI4 EG just because Fear is like 20x better than mason. the team has a bit of a different focus than it used to strategically and aui plays something of a different role than zai. The team usually relies on Universe and Sumail for the plays while aui does a bit more of the traditional support stuff than zai did

Aui is still mainly greedy 4 position zai used to be, except Aui is even greedier most of the time.

But Aui is magic and finds farm on the weirdest heroes. Every once and a while he randomly solos Ember/EE on a 4/skywrath.

First: it's pretty easy to solo ember spirit as skywrath if ember spirit can't get rid of silence.

Second: Aui gets to the point where he farms and pushes out lanes with fucking SWM of all heroes (he used to do it with SD as well), he just farms no matter the hero.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
August 04 2015 18:10 GMT
#496
EGSA EGSA EGSA
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
August 04 2015 18:10 GMT
#497
THERE IS NOT ENOUGH FREEDOM IN YOUR VOICE
passive quaranstream fan
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66359 Posts
August 04 2015 18:10 GMT
#498
not enough FREEDOM
POGGERS
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
August 04 2015 18:10 GMT
#499
USA USA USA
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
thiagoop
Profile Joined May 2015
Brazil365 Posts
August 04 2015 18:10 GMT
#500
Wish the best for Aui and Fear, but i love a underdog story so i will br rooting for coL in this one.
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