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On August 05 2015 09:31 blobrus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 09:28 Reson wrote:On August 05 2015 09:26 FHDH wrote:On August 05 2015 09:23 Stalemilk wrote:On August 05 2015 09:14 overt wrote:On August 05 2015 09:13 SkelA wrote:
Secret draft in both games was really shit. Outdrafted and outplayed. They've let Puppey and zai draft, now S4 messed it up. Will they have Kuro or RTZ draft next tournament? If they don't win this TI, they are disbanding. Nah. RTZ and Zai will take off and they will pick up some of the many free agents. EE + RTZ back together after TI5??? EE RTZ PPD Aui and Universe the true western dream team.
I would be so hype for that team.
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On August 05 2015 09:30 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 09:29 TheYango wrote:On August 05 2015 09:28 Jinxed wrote:On August 05 2015 09:27 TheYango wrote:
Hopefully the bigger orgs learn their lesson and actually take a gamble on new talent. Ehome and CDEC have both shown that there is good talent out there in China. It certainly says a lot that Newbee and IG are doing as poorly as they are while these two teams that are both full of relative unknowns are into the WB semis. Newbee actually has just as much new talent as LGD though, they just had a bad practice environment for ages, lol. a very loose term of practice 
rpg practice best practice
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 05 2015 09:31 blobrus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 09:28 Reson wrote:On August 05 2015 09:26 FHDH wrote:On August 05 2015 09:23 Stalemilk wrote:On August 05 2015 09:14 overt wrote:On August 05 2015 09:13 SkelA wrote:
Secret draft in both games was really shit. Outdrafted and outplayed. They've let Puppey and zai draft, now S4 messed it up. Will they have Kuro or RTZ draft next tournament? If they don't win this TI, they are disbanding. Nah. RTZ and Zai will take off and they will pick up some of the many free agents. EE + RTZ back together after TI5??? EE RTZ PPD Aui and Universe the true western dream team.
They would disband in a week.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 05 2015 09:30 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 09:29 stuchiu wrote:On August 05 2015 09:28 TheNewEra wrote:On August 05 2015 09:22 Fusilero wrote:On August 05 2015 09:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Ok let's go, KESPAAA Every team MVP win draws SKT/KT/CJ one step closer to investing in dota. Then we are all doomed But also prime Can Prime lose out in thre different esports at once? Probably not since they just got one of the best SC2 coaches ever, but one can dream. Look their LoL team has broken their 0-15 BO3 loss streak and their SC2 team has the new coach. The year of prime is coming.
That SC2 coach made 4 champions.
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I know Puppey drafted for them before and it got mixed results....but if I was Secret, I would make the gutsy decision to put Puppey back as drafter, and perhaps he would be flexible enough to give the team more options and unpredictability because they are just being scouted out really badly right now.
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On August 05 2015 09:31 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 09:31 blobrus wrote:On August 05 2015 09:28 Reson wrote:On August 05 2015 09:26 FHDH wrote:On August 05 2015 09:23 Stalemilk wrote:On August 05 2015 09:14 overt wrote:On August 05 2015 09:13 SkelA wrote:
Secret draft in both games was really shit. Outdrafted and outplayed. They've let Puppey and zai draft, now S4 messed it up. Will they have Kuro or RTZ draft next tournament? If they don't win this TI, they are disbanding. Nah. RTZ and Zai will take off and they will pick up some of the many free agents. EE + RTZ back together after TI5??? EE RTZ PPD Aui and Universe the true western dream team. They would disband in a week.
The entertainment value would be through the roof though.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On August 05 2015 09:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 09:30 Fusilero wrote:On August 05 2015 09:29 stuchiu wrote:On August 05 2015 09:28 TheNewEra wrote:On August 05 2015 09:22 Fusilero wrote:On August 05 2015 09:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Ok let's go, KESPAAA Every team MVP win draws SKT/KT/CJ one step closer to investing in dota. Then we are all doomed But also prime Can Prime lose out in thre different esports at once? Probably not since they just got one of the best SC2 coaches ever, but one can dream. Look their LoL team has broken their 0-15 BO3 loss streak and their SC2 team has the new coach. The year of prime is coming. Who the hell loses to Prime anymore?
Jin Air found a way and it was magical to watch.
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On August 05 2015 09:31 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 09:30 Fusilero wrote:On August 05 2015 09:29 stuchiu wrote:On August 05 2015 09:28 TheNewEra wrote:On August 05 2015 09:22 Fusilero wrote:On August 05 2015 09:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Ok let's go, KESPAAA Every team MVP win draws SKT/KT/CJ one step closer to investing in dota. Then we are all doomed But also prime Can Prime lose out in thre different esports at once? Probably not since they just got one of the best SC2 coaches ever, but one can dream. Look their LoL team has broken their 0-15 BO3 loss streak and their SC2 team has the new coach. The year of prime is coming. That SC2 coach made 4 champions.
T...tangtang?
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On August 05 2015 09:32 Kommander wrote:
I know Puppey drafted for them before and it got mixed results....but if I was Secret, I would make the gutsy decision to put Puppey back as drafter, and perhaps he would be flexible enough to give the team more options and unpredictability because they are just being scouted out really badly right now.
I don't think this is possible.
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MVP can do Rosh something fierce with this lineup.
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On August 05 2015 09:27 Nocticate wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 09:26 IshinShishi wrote:On August 05 2015 09:22 Super_Style wrote:
3 games secret lost in the group stage were with s4 mid getting shitstomped by opponents mid laner who went on to have over 15 kills in all 3 games. Bad call putting him mid in an important match, best he can do is play qop safe lane and hit a couple of ulties. Also true, S4 got massively outclassed by Cty, not only that, his sf play in general looked really bad. s4 is probably 4th best mid in this tournament behind maybe, cty, and sumail
Out of 16 teams and 32 players playing either mid lane or safe lane (aka position 1 and 2) he is one of if not the worst player in either position, as a secret fan am tired of delusional people who think its 2013 and alliance and navi are going to dominate china and s4 best player in the world, wake up bro, its 2015, there are these new people like rtz like sumaili who are on not 1 but 2 levels ahead of someone like s4.
All s4 can do is bring good drafting with his experience and if he fails at that also i see no reason to keep a guy who cant play safe lane carries and cant go mid because he will get destroyed by other mid laner on the team.
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Changing your drafter mid-tournament sounds like the worst idea ever.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
On August 05 2015 09:33 FHDH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 09:32 Kommander wrote:
I know Puppey drafted for them before and it got mixed results....but if I was Secret, I would make the gutsy decision to put Puppey back as drafter, and perhaps he would be flexible enough to give the team more options and unpredictability because they are just being scouted out really badly right now. I don't think this is possible.
Secret really needs to change something up though. There is no chance for a deep run if they just continue like nothing happened and they did not just got demolished by EHOME
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 05 2015 09:33 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 09:31 stuchiu wrote:On August 05 2015 09:30 Fusilero wrote:On August 05 2015 09:29 stuchiu wrote:On August 05 2015 09:28 TheNewEra wrote:On August 05 2015 09:22 Fusilero wrote:On August 05 2015 09:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Ok let's go, KESPAAA Every team MVP win draws SKT/KT/CJ one step closer to investing in dota. Then we are all doomed But also prime Can Prime lose out in thre different esports at once? Probably not since they just got one of the best SC2 coaches ever, but one can dream. Look their LoL team has broken their 0-15 BO3 loss streak and their SC2 team has the new coach. The year of prime is coming. That SC2 coach made 4 champions. T...tangtang?
Their new coach is Kim Min Ki. He was the ex-STX coach. After he ran them all the way to win Proleague, they split up. 4 of the 5 players on his A-Squad won a Championship: Inno, Dear, Classic, Trap
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Australia54784 Posts
On August 05 2015 09:31 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 09:30 Fusilero wrote:On August 05 2015 09:29 stuchiu wrote:On August 05 2015 09:28 TheNewEra wrote:On August 05 2015 09:22 Fusilero wrote:On August 05 2015 09:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Ok let's go, KESPAAA Every team MVP win draws SKT/KT/CJ one step closer to investing in dota. Then we are all doomed But also prime Can Prime lose out in thre different esports at once? Probably not since they just got one of the best SC2 coaches ever, but one can dream. Look their LoL team has broken their 0-15 BO3 loss streak and their SC2 team has the new coach. The year of prime is coming. That SC2 coach made 4 champions.
i mean like it's not like prime didn't make good players in the past lol
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On August 05 2015 09:29 Seraphic wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 09:27 Reson wrote:On August 05 2015 09:24 Danzo wrote:On August 05 2015 09:22 lolnoty wrote:
China vs Azarkon is the story of this TI LOLZ That Azarkon guy just makes shit up. There's nothing wrong with having a personal bias but I hope for his sake that he is just trolling for fun. "How do you know IG didn't practice?" "I read twitch chat..." You haven't been here for the past TIs when Azarkon does the same thing. Secret lost that game for good reason. They don't change their style of draft under whoever is drafting. It's always SF some where if it's available.
Agreed, would like to see some variation from them. S4 used to play quite a bit of DK that's been coming back up and hey maybe even puck would be a nice change in pace (though not much of a carry you want out of your mid in current meta, but maybe offlane?).
But upcoming games should be pretty fun now too.
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Puppey hasn't been too flexible, and I haven't liked his unconventional picks in a long while. No plz.
Just don't fuck up and give Gyro up for nothing.
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On August 05 2015 09:33 FHDH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 09:32 Kommander wrote:
I know Puppey drafted for them before and it got mixed results....but if I was Secret, I would make the gutsy decision to put Puppey back as drafter, and perhaps he would be flexible enough to give the team more options and unpredictability because they are just being scouted out really badly right now. I don't think this is possible.
I wouldn't go to such drastic measures. I think this BO3 was a (maybe needed) wakeup call for Secret.
The sunglasses thing displayed their overconfidence
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 05 2015 09:34 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 09:33 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:On August 05 2015 09:31 stuchiu wrote:On August 05 2015 09:30 Fusilero wrote:On August 05 2015 09:29 stuchiu wrote:On August 05 2015 09:28 TheNewEra wrote:On August 05 2015 09:22 Fusilero wrote:On August 05 2015 09:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Ok let's go, KESPAAA Every team MVP win draws SKT/KT/CJ one step closer to investing in dota. Then we are all doomed But also prime Can Prime lose out in thre different esports at once? Probably not since they just got one of the best SC2 coaches ever, but one can dream. Look their LoL team has broken their 0-15 BO3 loss streak and their SC2 team has the new coach. The year of prime is coming. That SC2 coach made 4 champions. T...tangtang? Their new coach is Kim Min Ki. He was the ex-STX coach. After he ran them all the way to win Proleague, they split up. 4 of the 5 players on his A-Squad won a Championship: Inno, Dear, Classic, Trap
And 5th will forever be a villain.
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