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Azimuth
Profile Joined April 2015
231 Posts
August 05 2015 00:39 GMT
#3961
This EHOME win is what VG win was at DAC. It showed Secret isn't unbeatable. They can be outplayed and they are humans, they can tilt and that to me is the biggest take from this. Secret isn't eliminated, they can still win TI but they're not as great as many of us thought they are.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
August 05 2015 00:39 GMT
#3962
time to see what this super sexual dota play is all about
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
August 05 2015 00:40 GMT
#3963
On August 05 2015 09:22 lolnoty wrote:
China vs Azarkon is the story of this TI

Seriously TI2 was too good as well
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
August 05 2015 00:40 GMT
#3964
On August 05 2015 09:31 Stalemilk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 09:31 blobrus wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:28 Reson wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:26 FHDH wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:23 Stalemilk wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:14 overt wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:13 SkelA wrote:
Secret draft in both games was really shit. Outdrafted and outplayed.


They've let Puppey and zai draft, now S4 messed it up. Will they have Kuro or RTZ draft next tournament?


If they don't win this TI, they are disbanding.

Nah. RTZ and Zai will take off and they will pick up some of the many free agents.


EE + RTZ back together after TI5???

EE RTZ PPD Aui and Universe the true western dream team.


I would be so hype for that team.

This is essentially my dream team
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
August 05 2015 00:40 GMT
#3965
On August 05 2015 09:39 blobrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 09:34 ShiaoPi wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:33 FHDH wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:32 Kommander wrote:
I know Puppey drafted for them before and it got mixed results....but if I was Secret, I would make the gutsy decision to put Puppey back as drafter, and perhaps he would be flexible enough to give the team more options and unpredictability because they are just being scouted out really badly right now.

I don't think this is possible.

Secret really needs to change something up though. There is no chance for a deep run if they just continue like nothing happened and they did not just got demolished by EHOME


You don't need to change your drafter to change things up. They just have to look at what went wrong and adapt (like what PPD does when EG bombs early).

I like making fun of secret as much as the next person but I don't like seeing people act so doomed over this loss. This is the first time they've lost a major bo3 since like dotapit I think (if you can even call that a major).

Changing drafters now would just signal to every other team that there's blood in the water and a lack of trust in secret.

I agree on not changing the drafter, but the games did not look good at all from Secret. And considering Secret's history at DAC I am just very worried they will try to be stubborn and then proceed to bomb out.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
August 05 2015 00:41 GMT
#3966
On August 05 2015 09:32 Kommander wrote:
I know Puppey drafted for them before and it got mixed results....but if I was Secret, I would make the gutsy decision to put Puppey back as drafter, and perhaps he would be flexible enough to give the team more options and unpredictability because they are just being scouted out really badly right now.


Secret needs Puppey to captain the take the pressure off s4. s4 crumbled so hard in game 2.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 05 2015 00:41 GMT
#3967
Aye, bristleback is a bad hero.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-05 00:43:00
August 05 2015 00:41 GMT
#3968
On August 05 2015 09:41 Reson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 09:32 Kommander wrote:
I know Puppey drafted for them before and it got mixed results....but if I was Secret, I would make the gutsy decision to put Puppey back as drafter, and perhaps he would be flexible enough to give the team more options and unpredictability because they are just being scouted out really badly right now.


Secret needs Puppey to captain the take the pressure off s4. s4 crumbled so hard in game 2.

Puppey will end up picking himself Chen every game and not banning BH.

EDIT: RIP MVP.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-05 00:42:49
August 05 2015 00:42 GMT
#3969
On August 05 2015 09:32 Kommander wrote:
I know Puppey drafted for them before and it got mixed results....but if I was Secret, I would make the gutsy decision to put Puppey back as drafter, and perhaps he would be flexible enough to give the team more options and unpredictability because they are just being scouted out really badly right now.

I think Puppey's drafting style is less conducive to winning tournaments, but more conducive to improving the team.

Drafting outside of your players' comfort zones looks bad when you're losing, but consistently practicing in a way that puts your team out of its comfort zone prevents players from getting complacent and expands their skillset.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
August 05 2015 00:42 GMT
#3970
On August 05 2015 09:39 Kasto wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the korean youtube stream?


Was this yesterday.
Now private
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
August 05 2015 00:42 GMT
#3971
Unsuccessful Bristle+Wisp so far.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 05 2015 00:43 GMT
#3972
Well that wasn't particularly sexy from Bristle and Wisp
Glorious SEA doto
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 05 2015 00:43 GMT
#3973
On August 05 2015 09:42 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Unsuccessful Bristle+Wisp so far.

Its minute 3, I think they have time.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
SQWKZ
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland720 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-05 00:53:11
August 05 2015 00:43 GMT
#3974
Super sexual dota plays are gonna go somethin like http://i.imgur.com/hbq0s1V.webm
So zen.
Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
August 05 2015 00:43 GMT
#3975
On August 05 2015 09:32 blobrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 09:31 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:31 blobrus wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:28 Reson wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:26 FHDH wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:23 Stalemilk wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:14 overt wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:13 SkelA wrote:
Secret draft in both games was really shit. Outdrafted and outplayed.


They've let Puppey and zai draft, now S4 messed it up. Will they have Kuro or RTZ draft next tournament?


If they don't win this TI, they are disbanding.

Nah. RTZ and Zai will take off and they will pick up some of the many free agents.


EE + RTZ back together after TI5???

EE RTZ PPD Aui and Universe the true western dream team.

They would disband in a week.


The entertainment value would be through the roof though.


I think EE will listen to PPD. EE + RTZ bromance and Aui + Universe Disney love story lead by PPD. Power of Friendship?
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
August 05 2015 00:44 GMT
#3976
korean casting has not been hype this year. no reason to watch it really
Kasto
Profile Joined May 2010
473 Posts
August 05 2015 00:44 GMT
#3977
Was pretty nice during the wild card matches at points, but fair enough.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
August 05 2015 00:44 GMT
#3978
On August 05 2015 09:44 trifecta wrote:
korean casting has not been hype this year. no reason to watch it really


I'd watch it for the commercials
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 05 2015 00:44 GMT
#3979
TA slowly moves up the meta ranks though.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
August 05 2015 00:45 GMT
#3980
On August 05 2015 09:42 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 09:32 Kommander wrote:
I know Puppey drafted for them before and it got mixed results....but if I was Secret, I would make the gutsy decision to put Puppey back as drafter, and perhaps he would be flexible enough to give the team more options and unpredictability because they are just being scouted out really badly right now.

I think Puppey's drafting style is less conducive to winning tournaments, but more conducive to improving the team.

Drafting outside of your players' comfort zones looks bad when you're losing, but consistently practicing in a way that puts your team out of its comfort zone prevents players from getting complacent and expands their skillset.

I know a recently eliminated team that had this problem.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
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