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IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 05 2015 00:36 GMT
#3941
On August 05 2015 09:32 Kommander wrote:
I know Puppey drafted for them before and it got mixed results....but if I was Secret, I would make the gutsy decision to put Puppey back as drafter, and perhaps he would be flexible enough to give the team more options and unpredictability because they are just being scouted out really badly right now.

I wonder if they realized during their bootcamp that they needed to change shit up because of how badly the other teams would study their play, I'm guessing that they probably considered it and decided to stuck with what they were doing just because of their dominance, welp.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
August 05 2015 00:36 GMT
#3942
Rip Artour, is the dream over?!
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
August 05 2015 00:36 GMT
#3943
Ah dammit my perfect TI5 prediction bracket has been broken by EHOME.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
August 05 2015 00:37 GMT
#3944
On August 05 2015 09:35 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 09:31 stuchiu wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:30 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:29 stuchiu wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:28 TheNewEra wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:22 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Ok let's go, KESPAAA

Every team MVP win draws SKT/KT/CJ one step closer to investing in dota.

Then we are all doomed

But also prime


Can Prime lose out in thre different esports at once?

Probably not since they just got one of the best SC2 coaches ever, but one can dream.

Look their LoL team has broken their 0-15 BO3 loss streak and their SC2 team has the new coach. The year of prime is coming.


That SC2 coach made 4 champions.

i mean like it's not like prime didn't make good players in the past lol

One of the best players in the world at the moment was a Prime player. Really came into his own under Jin Air, though.
Long live the King of Wings
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 05 2015 00:37 GMT
#3945
On August 05 2015 09:35 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 09:31 stuchiu wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:30 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:29 stuchiu wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:28 TheNewEra wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:22 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Ok let's go, KESPAAA

Every team MVP win draws SKT/KT/CJ one step closer to investing in dota.

Then we are all doomed

But also prime


Can Prime lose out in thre different esports at once?

Probably not since they just got one of the best SC2 coaches ever, but one can dream.

Look their LoL team has broken their 0-15 BO3 loss streak and their SC2 team has the new coach. The year of prime is coming.


That SC2 coach made 4 champions.

i mean like it's not like prime didn't make good players in the past lol


I think Gerrard is a different kind of coach. He lets this players grow without direction, but because of that most of them (except Maru) keep making the same mistakes year after year after year.

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Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
August 05 2015 00:37 GMT
#3946
On August 05 2015 09:27 Danzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 09:24 Reson wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:15 nojok wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:14 uriel- wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:09 Azarkon wrote:
Well, Secret allowed them to get three teams in the first six. Hope our American boys don't do the same. Fuck Secret though, why did play so bad today?



They are not very good compared to Ehome as the games obviously showed

Come on you are a big boy you can analyze this much at least

Let's forget 3 months of dota following a bo3.


Secret may still not have fully improved their ability to overcome losses. It's a team chemistry thing. They have respect for each other but when adversity strikes the cracks in their team chemistry affects their performance. They are like a bunch of skilled friends that are chill with each other but not the best of friends. This is similar to DK with key differences such as Secret are probably closer as friends but DK lived together for a year so the bond is different.

The other route is to go the EG route which is straight professional and have a strong structural hierachy. I think EG is the strongest team when it comes to bouncing back from defeat.



Honestly, the game 2 really just scream out draft. The Axe pick didn't really do much for them, especially how hard he was shut down in his lane.


I think it's hard to completely trust each other when the relationship is based mainly on respect.

Like watch the teams Xiao8 leads, if he tells them to go in one by one they will. They can bitch at him all they want after but in the game his command is final. I am sure that PPD has a similar role in EG. This should apply similarly to the draft. They have final say and that's all.

Secret's draft second game may have been a clash of ideas.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 05 2015 00:37 GMT
#3947
On August 05 2015 09:37 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 09:35 opterown wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:31 stuchiu wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:30 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:29 stuchiu wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:28 TheNewEra wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:22 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Ok let's go, KESPAAA

Every team MVP win draws SKT/KT/CJ one step closer to investing in dota.

Then we are all doomed

But also prime


Can Prime lose out in thre different esports at once?

Probably not since they just got one of the best SC2 coaches ever, but one can dream.

Look their LoL team has broken their 0-15 BO3 loss streak and their SC2 team has the new coach. The year of prime is coming.


That SC2 coach made 4 champions.

i mean like it's not like prime didn't make good players in the past lol

One of the best players in the world at the moment was a Prime player. Really came into his own under Jin Air, though.

yeah hey you're talking to opterown man i know haha
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 05 2015 00:37 GMT
#3948


MVP what
Glorious SEA doto
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-05 00:38:43
August 05 2015 00:38 GMT
#3949
Empire lost draft already. i mean picking Storm into Lion, Bristle and Lina..
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
August 05 2015 00:38 GMT
#3950
On August 05 2015 09:37 Fusilero wrote:
https://twitter.com/SC2MVP/status/628723422013448192

MVP what

Ahahaha what
Long live the King of Wings
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
August 05 2015 00:38 GMT
#3951
QO TA! Let's do this Korea.
Long live the King of Wings
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
August 05 2015 00:38 GMT
#3952
Super sexual dota plays, go!
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 05 2015 00:38 GMT
#3953
On August 05 2015 09:37 Fusilero wrote:
https://twitter.com/SC2MVP/status/628723422013448192

MVP what


You'd hit on empire twitter man, dont lie
Moderator
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 05 2015 00:38 GMT
#3954
On August 05 2015 09:37 Fusilero wrote:
https://twitter.com/SC2MVP/status/628723422013448192

MVP what

MVP fisted newbee last night and made the crowd ejaculate
:)
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
August 05 2015 00:39 GMT
#3955
LONG LIVE CHI LONG QUA DYNASTY
Skol
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 05 2015 00:39 GMT
#3956
MVP is now my second favorite team.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
August 05 2015 00:39 GMT
#3957
On August 05 2015 09:34 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 09:33 FHDH wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:32 Kommander wrote:
I know Puppey drafted for them before and it got mixed results....but if I was Secret, I would make the gutsy decision to put Puppey back as drafter, and perhaps he would be flexible enough to give the team more options and unpredictability because they are just being scouted out really badly right now.

I don't think this is possible.

Secret really needs to change something up though. There is no chance for a deep run if they just continue like nothing happened and they did not just got demolished by EHOME


You don't need to change your drafter to change things up. They just have to look at what went wrong and adapt (like what PPD does when EG bombs early).

I like making fun of secret as much as the next person but I don't like seeing people act so doomed over this loss. This is the first time they've lost a major bo3 since like dotapit I think (if you can even call that a major).

Changing drafters now would just signal to every other team that there's blood in the water and a lack of trust in secret.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
August 05 2015 00:39 GMT
#3958
MVP's got a comfort draft I think they have a good shot at this game.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
August 05 2015 00:39 GMT
#3959
On August 05 2015 09:31 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 09:30 stuchiu wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:29 TheYango wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:28 Jinxed wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:27 TheYango wrote:
Hopefully the bigger orgs learn their lesson and actually take a gamble on new talent.

Ehome and CDEC have both shown that there is good talent out there in China. It certainly says a lot that Newbee and IG are doing as poorly as they are while these two teams that are both full of relative unknowns are into the WB semis.

Newbee actually has just as much new talent as LGD though, they just had a bad practice environment for ages, lol.


a very loose term of practice

rpg practice best practice


No leader.

Mu was the leader of playing RPGs lol
Kasto
Profile Joined May 2010
473 Posts
August 05 2015 00:39 GMT
#3960
Does anyone have a link to the korean youtube stream?
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