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ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
August 05 2015 00:27 GMT
#3881
EHOME, CDEC, LGD all got 1$ mil secured already.

Aside from xiao8 who is ever going to retire after that lol.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
August 05 2015 00:27 GMT
#3882
On August 05 2015 09:26 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 09:22 Super_Style wrote:
3 games secret lost in the group stage were with s4 mid getting shitstomped by opponents mid laner who went on to have over 15 kills in all 3 games. Bad call putting him mid in an important match, best he can do is play qop safe lane and hit a couple of ulties.

Also true, S4 got massively outclassed by Cty, not only that, his sf play in general looked really bad.

s4 is probably 4th best mid in this tournament behind maybe, cty, and sumail
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
August 05 2015 00:27 GMT
#3883
On August 05 2015 09:24 lolnoty wrote:
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On August 05 2015 09:23 Stalemilk wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:14 overt wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:13 SkelA wrote:
Secret draft in both games was really shit. Outdrafted and outplayed.


They've let Puppey and zai draft, now S4 messed it up. Will they have Kuro or RTZ draft next tournament?


If they don't win this TI, they are disbanding.

I'm pretty sure if they win this TI they are also disbanding


Not gonna see disbands like last years because of majors.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
August 05 2015 00:27 GMT
#3884
--- Nuked ---
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
August 05 2015 00:27 GMT
#3885
On August 05 2015 09:24 Reson wrote:
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On August 05 2015 09:15 nojok wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:14 uriel- wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:09 Azarkon wrote:
Well, Secret allowed them to get three teams in the first six. Hope our American boys don't do the same. Fuck Secret though, why did play so bad today?



They are not very good compared to Ehome as the games obviously showed

Come on you are a big boy you can analyze this much at least

Let's forget 3 months of dota following a bo3.


Secret may still not have fully improved their ability to overcome losses. It's a team chemistry thing. They have respect for each other but when adversity strikes the cracks in their team chemistry affects their performance. They are like a bunch of skilled friends that are chill with each other but not the best of friends. This is similar to DK with key differences such as Secret are probably closer as friends but DK lived together for a year so the bond is different.

The other route is to go the EG route which is straight professional and have a strong structural hierachy. I think EG is the strongest team when it comes to bouncing back from defeat.



Honestly, the game 2 really just scream out draft. The Axe pick didn't really do much for them, especially how hard he was shut down in his lane.
Getting too old for this..
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 05 2015 00:28 GMT
#3886
On August 05 2015 09:24 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 09:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:22 Nocticate wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:21 Azarkon wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:20 Nocticate wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:18 Azarkon wrote:
Secret does have their own PPD; but they didn't use them the first game and then lost their mind the second game.

what happened to this, bud?
On August 05 2015 09:04 Azarkon wrote:
This secures what again? Shit does it secure two Chinese teams in the first three?

Fuck I'm out for the night.



I'm going to do it but thought I'd stick around for a few minutes to not look as though I disappear when Western teams lose.

you need to learn how to take an L

He needs to ask Tige... pardon me, Tyga.

yeah definitely take the tyga route of persevering through a long string of losses
the alternative is the meek route where you keep trying to fight when everyone knows you're already out of the fight

I just realized that i know 2 different guys who chose names with reference to "tiger" who both took huge ass L's in their lifes. From 2 different subject matters. What the hell. Either way, March Warlock hype, MVP.Please
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
August 05 2015 00:28 GMT
#3887
On August 05 2015 09:22 Fusilero wrote:
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On August 05 2015 09:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Ok let's go, KESPAAA

Every team MVP win draws SKT/KT/CJ one step closer to investing in dota.

Then we are all doomed

But also prime
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 05 2015 00:28 GMT
#3888
Well China will finally start growing their pubstars after this TI, Western scene is fucked.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
August 05 2015 00:28 GMT
#3889
huge difference in mood, reminds me of TI2 navi vs iG game 2
ffxiv enjoyer
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
August 05 2015 00:28 GMT
#3890
On August 05 2015 09:27 TheYango wrote:
Hopefully the bigger orgs learn their lesson and actually take a gamble on new talent.

Ehome and CDEC have both shown that there is good talent out there in China. It certainly says a lot that Newbee and IG are doing as poorly as they are while these two teams that are both full of relative unknowns are into the WB semis.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 05 2015 00:28 GMT
#3891
On August 05 2015 09:27 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 09:26 IshinShishi wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:22 Super_Style wrote:
3 games secret lost in the group stage were with s4 mid getting shitstomped by opponents mid laner who went on to have over 15 kills in all 3 games. Bad call putting him mid in an important match, best he can do is play qop safe lane and hit a couple of ulties.

Also true, S4 got massively outclassed by Cty, not only that, his sf play in general looked really bad.

s4 is probably 4th best mid in this tournament behind maybe, cty, and sumail

dude did you hear nahaz's stats on QO
posting on liquid sites in current year
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
August 05 2015 00:28 GMT
#3892
EG last Western hope once again
Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
August 05 2015 00:28 GMT
#3893
On August 05 2015 09:26 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 09:23 Stalemilk wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:14 overt wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:13 SkelA wrote:
Secret draft in both games was really shit. Outdrafted and outplayed.


They've let Puppey and zai draft, now S4 messed it up. Will they have Kuro or RTZ draft next tournament?


If they don't win this TI, they are disbanding.

Nah. RTZ and Zai will take off and they will pick up some of the many free agents.


EE + RTZ back together after TI5???
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 05 2015 00:29 GMT
#3894
Hello wisp-bristle.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
August 05 2015 00:29 GMT
#3895
On August 05 2015 09:27 Reson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 09:24 Danzo wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:22 lolnoty wrote:
China vs Azarkon is the story of this TI

LOLZ


That Azarkon guy just makes shit up. There's nothing wrong with having a personal bias but I hope for his sake that he is just trolling for fun.

"How do you know IG didn't practice?"
"I read twitch chat..."


You haven't been here for the past TIs when Azarkon does the same thing.

Secret lost that game for good reason. They don't change their style of draft under whoever is drafting. It's always SF some where if it's available.
Natus Vincere Fan | Team Secret Fan | SK Telecom T1 Fan | Lanaya the Templar Assassin <3
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
August 05 2015 00:29 GMT
#3896
On August 05 2015 09:27 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 09:26 IshinShishi wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:22 Super_Style wrote:
3 games secret lost in the group stage were with s4 mid getting shitstomped by opponents mid laner who went on to have over 15 kills in all 3 games. Bad call putting him mid in an important match, best he can do is play qop safe lane and hit a couple of ulties.

Also true, S4 got massively outclassed by Cty, not only that, his sf play in general looked really bad.

s4 is probably 4th best mid in this tournament behind maybe, cty, and sumail


Does s4 even count as a mid laner anymore? He only plays mid in like 30% of Secret's games.
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
August 05 2015 00:29 GMT
#3897
On August 05 2015 09:27 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 09:26 IshinShishi wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:22 Super_Style wrote:
3 games secret lost in the group stage were with s4 mid getting shitstomped by opponents mid laner who went on to have over 15 kills in all 3 games. Bad call putting him mid in an important match, best he can do is play qop safe lane and hit a couple of ulties.

Also true, S4 got massively outclassed by Cty, not only that, his sf play in general looked really bad.

s4 is probably 4th best mid in this tournament behind maybe, cty, and sumail

You forgot Shiki and Ferrari_430.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 05 2015 00:29 GMT
#3898
On August 05 2015 09:28 Jinxed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 09:27 TheYango wrote:
Hopefully the bigger orgs learn their lesson and actually take a gamble on new talent.

Ehome and CDEC have both shown that there is good talent out there in China. It certainly says a lot that Newbee and IG are doing as poorly as they are while these two teams that are both full of relative unknowns are into the WB semis.

Newbee actually has just as much new talent as LGD though, they just had a bad practice environment for ages, lol.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 05 2015 00:29 GMT
#3899
On August 05 2015 09:28 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 09:22 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Ok let's go, KESPAAA

Every team MVP win draws SKT/KT/CJ one step closer to investing in dota.

Then we are all doomed

But also prime


Can Prime lose out in thre different esports at once?

Probably not since they just got one of the best SC2 coaches ever, but one can dream.
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Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
August 05 2015 00:29 GMT
#3900
On August 05 2015 09:28 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 09:27 Nocticate wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:26 IshinShishi wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:22 Super_Style wrote:
3 games secret lost in the group stage were with s4 mid getting shitstomped by opponents mid laner who went on to have over 15 kills in all 3 games. Bad call putting him mid in an important match, best he can do is play qop safe lane and hit a couple of ulties.

Also true, S4 got massively outclassed by Cty, not only that, his sf play in general looked really bad.

s4 is probably 4th best mid in this tournament behind maybe, cty, and sumail

dude did you hear nahaz's stats on QO


No but I remember the top 3 mek builder comment.
Natus Vincere Fan | Team Secret Fan | SK Telecom T1 Fan | Lanaya the Templar Assassin <3
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