On June 06 2015 20:14 Snakesneaks wrote:
could only imagine if that is skadi instead of bot2
could only imagine if that is skadi instead of bot2
Wait a minute, since when skadi costs 4000 gold?
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On June 06 2015 20:14 Snakesneaks wrote: could only imagine if that is skadi instead of bot2 Wait a minute, since when skadi costs 4000 gold? | ||
kazyv
273 Posts
On June 06 2015 20:07 lolfail9001 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 06 2015 20:07 Spicy_Curry wrote: well you have to think that bots 2 doesnt increase pl's farm speed more than a yasha/diffusal Farm speed is fairly irrelevant when you can't fight and get it forced on you. farmspeed is exaclty what matters in this situation, if you can't fight you need to farm until you can | ||
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Nyovne
Netherlands19135 Posts
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On June 06 2015 20:13 Azarkon wrote: Show nested quote + On June 06 2015 20:10 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: On June 06 2015 20:09 Azarkon wrote: Same as the series vs. Ehome. Secret just so hard to beat even when they're behind. Of course, it helps that these two teams are both not that great at late game. secret was never behind, idk what you're talking about c9 needed to somehow take a rax before 30 to be ahead with their draft They were 6-22 at one stage. Yes, C9 needed to keep the momentum up to win with their draft - and they were doing it. Of course, Secret was never that behind because they didn't break down just because they lost a few team fights. c9's networth/exp lead peaked roughly at 3k 20 minutes in, that's not really a lead... it's actually a deficit with tusk/sb/bane on one side | ||
jojos11
Korea (North)314 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On June 06 2015 20:14 traumatism wrote: Why can't my 0 stun pub lineups go like this? Your 0 stun pub line-ups suck at grouping as 5 with good damage in teamfights? | ||
MrCon
France29748 Posts
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Ingvar
Russian Federation421 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On June 06 2015 20:13 Azarkon wrote: Show nested quote + On June 06 2015 20:10 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: On June 06 2015 20:09 Azarkon wrote: Same as the series vs. Ehome. Secret just so hard to beat even when they're behind. Of course, it helps that these two teams are both not that great at late game. secret was never behind, idk what you're talking about c9 needed to somehow take a rax before 30 to be ahead with their draft They were 6-22 at one stage. Yes, C9 needed to keep the momentum up to win with their draft - and they were doing it. Of course, Secret was never that behind because they didn't break down just because they lost a few team fights. 6-22 with nothing more than like a 2k networth lead... 6-22 was a very misleading stat because with C9's draft having only 2-3k lead at that point is just nowhere near enough. | ||
Kuzmorgo
Hungary1058 Posts
On June 06 2015 20:14 lolfail9001 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 06 2015 20:13 Azarkon wrote: On June 06 2015 20:10 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: On June 06 2015 20:09 Azarkon wrote: Same as the series vs. Ehome. Secret just so hard to beat even when they're behind. Of course, it helps that these two teams are both not that great at late game. secret was never behind, idk what you're talking about c9 needed to somehow take a rax before 30 to be ahead with their draft They were 6-22 at one stage. Yes, C9 needed to keep the momentum up to win with their draft - and they were doing it. Of course, Secret was never that behind because they didn't break down just because they lost a few team fights. 6-22 and gold difference was 1k Edit: accidentally posted empty-.- Exactly, they were never that behind, they kept up with the farm. The jungle Kotl worked out really well. And I think the Bot2 was huge missplay, even if you manage to tp in for every kill it barely beats a simple bot and other farming item, and it delays your progression into mid/late game. It basically gave up the momentum that the early game kills gave them | ||
Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On June 06 2015 20:14 lolfail9001 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 06 2015 20:13 Azarkon wrote: On June 06 2015 20:10 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: On June 06 2015 20:09 Azarkon wrote: Same as the series vs. Ehome. Secret just so hard to beat even when they're behind. Of course, it helps that these two teams are both not that great at late game. secret was never behind, idk what you're talking about c9 needed to somehow take a rax before 30 to be ahead with their draft They were 6-22 at one stage. Yes, C9 needed to keep the momentum up to win with their draft - and they were doing it. Of course, Secret was never that behind because they didn't break down just because they lost a few team fights. 6-22 and gold difference was 1k It was 3-4k at one stage, and yes, that's a testament to how well Secret plays even when dying all around the map. Put another team in their place and watch them fail in the same situation because they group up and crumble. | ||
ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
they needed to deal with the splitpush | ||
Lancehead
Canada123 Posts
On June 06 2015 20:15 jojos11 wrote: fun fact: C9 biggest lead was like 3k gold this game while leading with 14 kills How does that even happen? Did Secret just farm like crazy and buy out every time they get ganked? | ||
lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On June 06 2015 20:16 Azarkon wrote: Show nested quote + On June 06 2015 20:14 lolfail9001 wrote: On June 06 2015 20:13 Azarkon wrote: On June 06 2015 20:10 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: On June 06 2015 20:09 Azarkon wrote: Same as the series vs. Ehome. Secret just so hard to beat even when they're behind. Of course, it helps that these two teams are both not that great at late game. secret was never behind, idk what you're talking about c9 needed to somehow take a rax before 30 to be ahead with their draft They were 6-22 at one stage. Yes, C9 needed to keep the momentum up to win with their draft - and they were doing it. Of course, Secret was never that behind because they didn't break down just because they lost a few team fights. 6-22 and gold difference was 1k It was 3-4k at one stage, and yes, that's a testament to how well Secret plays even when dying all around the map. Put another team in their place and watch them fail in the same situation because they group up and crumble. I mean, when one side was feeding, other 2 were farming away, so yeah, Secret is no C9 when it comes to composure and we know that already anyways. | ||
roronoe
Canada1527 Posts
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On June 06 2015 20:16 Lancehead wrote: Show nested quote + On June 06 2015 20:15 jojos11 wrote: fun fact: C9 biggest lead was like 3k gold this game while leading with 14 kills How does that even happen? Did Secret just farm like crazy and buy out every time they get ganked? if you saw the lasthits chart at 15 minutes it would've been obvious kotl pretty mcuh started jungling at level 2 or 3 or so and ds outfarmed pl; meanwhile sb (the ds counterpart) had 3 last hits and there was no equivalent farmer between the tusk/bane (as opposed to the jungling kotl, who, while behind bane in networth slightly for a bit, didn't fall far behind) | ||
Evander Berry Wall
United States1137 Posts
On June 06 2015 20:16 Lancehead wrote: Show nested quote + On June 06 2015 20:15 jojos11 wrote: fun fact: C9 biggest lead was like 3k gold this game while leading with 14 kills How does that even happen? Did Secret just farm like crazy and buy out every time they get ganked? Much more dedicated farming, more farming efficiency, the enormous benefit of Track gold, and the fact that C9 actually never established much of a tower lead (their biggest mistake might relate to that point). | ||
jojos11
Korea (North)314 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
That took a lot of skill. A lesser team with the same draft in the same situation crumbles. | ||
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