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Kirsed
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![[image loading]](http://www.liquiddota.com/staff/opterown/ti5_banner.jpg) [unparsable timestamp format]  The International 2015: China Qualifier![[image loading]](http://www.eumind.net/.images/common/browsing_article.gif) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/r9ZH0.png)  Main Stream | Stream 2 | Stream 3 | Lounge Stream![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/q0PBUuK.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/VkNSzri.png) EHOME - Yang, Cty, rOtK, LaNm, DDC![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/DPY6INl.png) Energy Pacemaker - Fan, old chicken, le, 123456, lt![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Ykbz9tL.png) CDEC Gaming - Agressif, Shiki, Xz, Garder, Q![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ukVfhGu.png) Wings Gaming - xdd, hdhp-cqc, InJuly, super, jdh![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1XjbHkP.png) | ||
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Kirsed
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Poll: Who will qualify for the TI5 main event? EHOME (36) CDEC Gaming (9) Energy Pacemaker (0) Wings Gaming (0) 45 total votes Your vote: Who will qualify for the TI5 main event? (Vote): EHOME | ||
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rebdomine
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juff
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Azarkon
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Kuroeeah
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On May 27 2015 15:59 juff wrote: That storm spirit visual glitch was pretty cool. How about give him an agh's that turns him into an archon. First we get lurkers and now archon? Blizzard police incoming | ||
TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
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juff
Singapore4659 Posts
On May 27 2015 16:10 Kuroeeah wrote: First we get lurkers and now archon? Blizzard police incoming Not if they call it wraithon or archranger. | ||
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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
If anything Outworld Devourer sounds like a nice name. | ||
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plasmidghost
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Fire Turtles
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plasmidghost
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CxWiLL
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SpiritoftheTunA
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On May 27 2015 16:48 plasmidghost wrote: And ROTK gives up another first blood, that number must be in the hundreds for professional games to be pedantic, the total sum isn't significant, it's how high that number is above 10% of his games (10 players / game, 1 firstblood per game) | ||
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Waterboarding
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On May 27 2015 16:49 kaleidoscope wrote: how did Ehome deward so accurately? prophet tp'ed so early to put that 2 wards down, how is it possible that they can pinpoint those 2 wards so accurately? Most likely just experience from scrims, replays etc. | ||
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Azarkon
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stuchiu
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On May 27 2015 17:04 plasmidghost wrote: I don't know how I feel about Vlads on Furion Headdress still builds into Mek, you know  . | ||
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juff
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Azarkon
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plasmidghost
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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CxWiLL
China830 Posts
On May 27 2015 17:10 Azarkon wrote: Manta on Gyro what? Lelz. manta is a proper counter to omnislash. | ||
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sandyph
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SkelA
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plasmidghost
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Not if Jugg never uses it | ||
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plasmidghost
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Kyyuna
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Azarkon
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
Such an RotK thing. | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13069 Posts
At least thats what im doing most of the time. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
CDEC had the easy group, though between EP, Wings, and them, it's still a difficult call. | ||
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plasmidghost
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On May 27 2015 17:25 plasmidghost wrote: Crazy how YYF alone pulls in nearly 500,000 viewers while the qualifiers get like 25,000 Dooyu inflates numbers by a significant amount. | ||
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drew-chan
Malaysia1517 Posts
On May 27 2015 17:25 plasmidghost wrote: Crazy how YYF alone pulls in nearly 500,000 viewers while the qualifiers get like 25,000 There were 80-100k viewers in client while I was watching yesterday. Also Chinese streaming sites inflate numbers a little. Also YYF's stream is amazing. He and LongDD's hijinks are legendary in China. | ||
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CxWiLL
China830 Posts
Most Chinese viewers prefer OB's stream over the official one. They have more fun during the down time too. Now they are having a match with Mu, rabbit, banana and Sylar. | ||
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FinestHour
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govie
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E: lets all pray that we are gonna witness the turn of metatides. | ||
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lolfail9001
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TheEmulator
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govie
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govie
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Nymzee
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govie
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Nymzee
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On May 27 2015 18:53 govie wrote: yes sir i want them to win the chinese qualifier what a great story line that is | ||
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CxWiLL
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Valhalla44
Bosnia-Herzegovina983 Posts
On May 27 2015 18:54 Nymzee wrote: i want them to win the chinese qualifier what a great story line that is Honestly they have quite stacked lineup if u followed chinese scene in last 2 years. | ||
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Nymzee
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On May 27 2015 18:55 Valhalla44 wrote: Honestly they have quite stacked lineup if u followed chinese scene in last 2 years. i dont disagree, but it's still awesome imo! | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 27 2015 18:55 CxWiLL wrote: how did DK manage to keep up the farm with SF and Jugg? Kills, tower last hits and farming ancients meanwhile. Also, bear in mind that everyone in this game is under 500 GPM. | ||
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govie
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 27 2015 18:56 govie wrote: this game is beautifull because it shows that pipe on chen and blink tide around the same time, totally changed the outcome of the game. I like that. Blink on tide did not do much tho because tide literally does not use ravage. | ||
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govie
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On May 27 2015 18:57 lolfail9001 wrote: Blink on tide did not do much tho because tide literally does not use ravage. He's carefull yes, but thats better then a tide that ravages just before he's dies^^  | ||
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Kirsed
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govie
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Kirsed
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The fuyckl is this fight The fuck is this push. what's happening. | ||
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lolfail9001
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shouldbeworking
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Kamisamanachi
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Kirsed
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Super_Style
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
LMAO, Clock dealt more hero damage this game than Gyro. | ||
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Kamisamanachi
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AndyJay
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lolfail9001
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On May 27 2015 19:25 Kamisamanachi wrote: injuly played pretty soild tide when he was in LGD ..not too surprising for the caliber of a player like him..i am happy for xdd tho..he is one of the least known carry player from china and he is super legit..he was in original risingstars with sylar ..sad that team broke,but this guy is legit since long time..another maybe level player from china which needs some appreciation . What he needs first and foremost is lategame decision making. Not that i flame him or something (he is overlooked indeed), but damn, everyone is going to remember him as the guy that did not buy travels in 70 minute game with 2 lanes down. On May 27 2015 19:27 AndyJay wrote: No one getting vlads when you have two 5/6 slotted right clickers without lifesteal is beyond me. Implying vlads are good for anything but armor. Also, lifesteal from vlads is irrelevant. | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13069 Posts
On May 27 2015 19:28 lolfail9001 wrote: What he needs first and foremost is lategame decision making. Not that i flame him or something (he is overlooked indeed), but damn, everyone is going to remember him as the guy that did not buy travels in 70 minute game with 2 lanes down. Implying vlads are good for anything but armor. Also, lifesteal from vlads is irrelevant. Lifesteal is ranged now on vlads, not irrelevant. | ||
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Kamisamanachi
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On May 27 2015 19:28 lolfail9001 wrote: What he needs first and foremost is lategame decision making. Not that i flame him or something (he is overlooked indeed), but damn, everyone is going to remember him as the guy that did not buy travels in 70 minute game with 2 lanes down. yea,haha...i was also mad at him for doing that..but i like that player since long time and i am happy that he is getting attention in this qualifiers..he is pretty much the best spectre player from china along with hao..i have seen his spectre win games on his own many times | ||
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Kirsed
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lolfail9001
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On May 27 2015 19:30 SkelA wrote: Lifesteal is ranged now on vlads, not irrelevant. It is irrelevant. Look, to regen 250 HP as SF from vlads lifesteal, you would need to 100 to 0 gyro with just right clicks. Essentially after a won teamfight you would regen mek worth of HP. And that's when you have aghs chen on your team. Similar numbers for jugg, except that you regen comparable amount in 5 seconds of healing ward. | ||
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govie
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Kamisamanachi
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On May 27 2015 19:32 kirsed wrote: It really felt like EP had a good chance to win that. I'm really disappointing how that ended. it felt like they had the window of winning the game if they take more fights mid game..that chen pipe completely deleted a hero named phoenix from game...it felt like 4vs 5 after chen got pipe+rubick started levelling up null | ||
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mutantmagnet
United States3789 Posts
On May 27 2015 19:07 kirsed wrote: What's with sny gyro since gyro came back into vogue? I don't get it. What do you recommend? Whenever I play gyro I try to get butterfly as my first major item if I feel I can trust my team to hold the post laning phase but there are games I can feel they can't and I get SnY instead. I've helped turned around most of my games slipping away from us with SnY that would've gone horribly with butterfly and more drawn out with BKB first. | ||
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govie
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E: if they pick timbersaw/cw 3rd, its gonna be that draft i think. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 27 2015 19:41 govie wrote: EP gonna draft ursa+enchantress supportcombo now. Thats such a sweet strat! But then you picked ursa. That's fucked up. | ||
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TheEmulator
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 27 2015 19:43 TheEmulator wrote: wings is actually the Cinderella story, huh. Nah, they are probably 3rd again at this year qualifiers. It got to suck at this point to get so close and yet so far. | ||
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Kirsed
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AndyJay
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SQWKZ
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Kirsed
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lolfail9001
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On May 27 2015 20:26 SQWKZ wrote: Casual cloak gaming. I really underestimated EP's draft. You dared to underestimate most obnoxious deathball of them all? On May 27 2015 20:27 kirsed wrote: This bat really needed a quicker blink. Really hard to do though so I can't really blame him. Abbadon >>> Batrider. | ||
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govie
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mutantmagnet
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govie
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 glimpse solves the short range of the stun. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
that QoP/Rubick combo | ||
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mnck
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Fire Turtles
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lolfail9001
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On May 27 2015 21:20 Fire Turtles wrote: So much for the Cinderella story,huh Filfthy deathballers. | ||
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Kamisamanachi
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On May 27 2015 21:20 Fire Turtles wrote: So much for the Cinderella story,huh it's quite funny that majority of the community is calling EP as cinderella story despite having them in compendium prediction | ||
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lprk
Poland2249 Posts
On May 27 2015 21:28 Kamisamanachi wrote: it's quite funny that majority of the community is calling EP as cinderella story despite having them in compendium prediction People refering Wings not EP as cindirella story, because they went through open qualifier. | ||
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Kamisamanachi
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On May 27 2015 21:31 kirsed wrote: EP and EHOME were my clear favorites for Chinese quals I thought that's what everyone though? majority of chinese people had ehome and hgt as their top 2 and i think most people from west also had the same sentiment..it's just that HGT and particularly, ZSMJ underperformed | ||
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RiZu
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On May 27 2015 21:34 Kamisamanachi wrote: majority of chinese people had ehome and hgt as their top 2 and i think most people from west also had the same sentiment..it's just that HGT and particularly, ZSMJ underperformed Air and HGT will never made it to TI  sadly. Funny enough his old teammates who are mostly in Wing Gaming also fell short despite been the 2nd favorite team like year to CIS. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
I think the only team that came out of the left field this year is EP. CDEC was a high second-tier team with Maybe and remains a high second-tier team with Shiki. I don't know whether EP's rise is simply another DT.Club case - ie short-lived - but you have to give them credit for going from complete nobodies to a solid high second-tier team. | ||
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CxWiLL
China830 Posts
On May 28 2015 01:14 Azarkon wrote: HGT and Wings' failure simply show that though DT.Club had a period of success in 2014, they were ultimately not tier 1 players. It was the same deal then when they lost the wild cards to CIS, and it's the same deal now. DT.Club's players have been around in the pro-scene for years, and they've never broken out of second-tier. For all the hype Air and co. have gotten, they've reached a ceiling. I think the only team that came out of the left field this year is EP. CDEC was a high second-tier team with Maybe and remains a high second-tier team with Shiki. I don't know whether EP's rise is simply another DT.Club case - ie short-lived - but you have to give them credit for going from complete nobodies to a solid high second-tier team. EP to me is more like CIS last year. A group of new comers into the scene, I believe they might be picked apart after this TI by better teams which is looking for replacement. Players like Oldchicken will be picked by some Tier 1 teams, just like June or Injuly last year. | ||
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TheEmulator
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On May 28 2015 13:00 Thetwinmasters wrote: do we talk about the game here Yea we renamed this thread to playoffs instead of having a new day 4 thread. | ||
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ASoo
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Xinder
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Xinder
United States2269 Posts
On May 28 2015 13:26 Kuroeeah wrote: this is the first time im watching an energy pacemaker game but i can already tell this sniper is some sort of god. You missed out then. Old Chicken is legit as fuck at mid. I have a question. Why are the perfect world servers such shit for observers and the players at times? | ||
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Aceace
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rebdomine
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On May 28 2015 13:27 Xinder wrote: You missed out then. Old Chicken is legit as fuck at mid. I have a question. Why are the perfect world servers such shit for observers and the players at times? great firewall of china | ||
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Kuroeeah
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Xinder
United States2269 Posts
Fuck China User was warned for this post | ||
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blobrus
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On May 28 2015 13:45 Kuroeeah wrote: an e-blade? uh... Dat Sniper ult synergy!! | ||
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Xinder
United States2269 Posts
On May 28 2015 13:49 Thetwinmasters wrote: another bullshit shackle Yeah that Shackle was questionable at best. | ||
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drew-chan
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On May 28 2015 13:56 booyalka wrote: this drow eblade makes no fucking sense against this magic dmg team with a team of 5 physical dmg heroes I guess it stops Sniper from attacking, but if your drow has to walk forward and cast it shes fucked anyways. | ||
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lprk
Poland2249 Posts
On May 28 2015 14:00 drew-chan wrote: I guess it stops Sniper from attacking, but if your drow has to walk forward and cast it shes fucked anyways. It's the highest agi item in the game, with wr and familiars it's decent just for the damage. | ||
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Kirbz
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Am I missing something I thought there was only 1 qualified team? | ||
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ASoo
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On May 28 2015 14:05 Kirbz wrote: did zyori just say cdec is 1 game from TI5? Am I missing something I thought there was only 1 qualified team? 1st place is seeded straight into the TI5 bracket, the 4 second place teams play a mini-tournament for the wild card slots. The wild card games are happening in Seattle, so I guess Zyori is counting them as part of TI5. | ||
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ASoo
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On May 28 2015 15:14 Kuroeeah wrote: I thought old chicken was a god when i looked at him. The god of getting solo chrono'd. | ||
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shouldbeworking
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On May 28 2015 16:31 dutchfriese wrote: Does anyone know if there will be VoD's of the upcoming games available tomorrow? You can download them on DotaTV | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On May 28 2015 16:31 dutchfriese wrote: Does anyone know if there will be VoD's of the upcoming games available tomorrow? There are vods on twitch. | ||
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SkelA
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On May 28 2015 18:52 Super_Style wrote: Gyro keeps dying to right click yet he refuses to get lifesteal and evasion. Also fuck these servers and lag... They got lifesteal vlads and solar crest. | ||
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
On May 28 2015 18:57 Super_Style wrote: And this 2k mmr DK 50 mins maelstrom pickup, srsly this is some bad level of dota. Sure, both of these team are going to TI and the lost of this match will have 50% chance of being in the main event. That's literally world class. | ||
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Super_Style
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That pugna got vlads after the last fight, he didnt have it in any fight so far this game, and lets not compare 10% lifesteal to 100%. Also i didnt say these are bad teams, i just said that this particular game is horrible. | ||
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Kirsed
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A creep was killed! | ||
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e: i disagree with synderen and think tree+sjaman supportcombo is gonna win this game. | ||
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lprk
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On May 28 2015 19:55 teddyoojo wrote: its cuz cdec knows its gonna be shitton of teamfights between 15 and 25 minutes so they go drums+mek+vlads etc. as theyre the strongest teamfight items they could get for that period of time Vlads does nothing during 15-25min teamfights | ||
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DucK-
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On May 28 2015 20:06 CruelZeratul wrote: You expect a smoke from the other team which has huge AoE and then proceed to give up high ground and stay in a tight choke? How dumb is that. Well they retreated high ground, then they got caught. | ||
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shouldbeworking
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parazice
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On May 28 2015 20:11 Evander Berry Wall wrote: I have to say, I think EHOME has been better with cty. when you have play InF in solo mid ... that beyond suck | ||
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DucK-
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On May 28 2015 20:17 parazice wrote: Rotk not feed mode when you have play InF in solo mid ... that beyond suck We have to at least credit inflame for being the one that first played Sniper heavily at mid lane :D CTY definitely has been an upgrade. | ||
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DucK-
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On May 28 2015 21:08 Birdie wrote: Why is aggressif going for manta when storm is going bloodstone? WHAT IS THIS MADNESS He stopped at Yasha though | ||
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Otolia
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On May 28 2015 21:23 DucK- wrote: Suddenly Agha soon for AA! This is retarded. I'm all for more money to supports but getting 1.4k just from a solo kill is just stupid. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
[Edit] jinxed them | ||
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DucK-
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On May 28 2015 22:00 lolfail9001 wrote: Now that i think about it: will there be enough streams for EU/SEA qualifiers? Because at the rate they've been going it may turn out that SEA group stage won't be over when EU one starts and that means 4 streams used just for games. That is, if i understand correct and SEA group stage will start at similar timing as Chinese one, while EU one is starting earlier than AM. You have a point. They were fortunate with the timings for China and AM. SEA's timing is the same as China, while EU starts a few hours earlier than AM. Not really sure how they're going to do this, or whether they even thought about it. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
E: imbaTV is showing the game. | ||
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lprk
Poland2249 Posts
On May 28 2015 22:06 IntoTheheart wrote: Which stream are you guys watching? E: imbaTV is showing the game. English stream is on Sange | ||
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lolfail9001
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On May 28 2015 22:02 DucK- wrote: CTY QoP. Congrats Ehome! You are correct | ||
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intotheheart
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juff
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MrCon
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lolfail9001
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juff
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intotheheart
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lprk
Poland2249 Posts
On May 28 2015 22:21 IntoTheheart wrote: 14-minute blink from Axe. Is this considered a good timing, or a pretty bad one? Pretty bad | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
edit: It finally placed me in the right game. Buggy pile of trash... | ||
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lolfail9001
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
What's EHOME's method to survive Gyro? Just have Razor drain him? | ||
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lolfail9001
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Faruko
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MrCon
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intotheheart
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BadAim
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ahswtini
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intotheheart
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 28 2015 22:41 ahswtini wrote: ok ye ehome have no answer for a 6 slot gyro.... Kill everyone else looks good enough of an answer | ||
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CruelZeratul
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intotheheart
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kju
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Faruko
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DucK-
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CruelZeratul
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intotheheart
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DucK-
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SkelA
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Get really ahead and have no clue how strong they are or what to do late game. | ||
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Otolia
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 28 2015 22:55 Otolia wrote: Sometimes BKB isn't the answer on Invoker ... Especially against Razor/QoP aghs ult/Axe/WD/AA | ||
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CruelZeratul
Germany4588 Posts
On May 28 2015 22:54 IntoTheheart wrote: Game is dead even in terms of net worth. The question is, does EHOME ride that momentum, or is it an even game now? It's not even when your teamfight is inferior and needs to be ahead to win. | ||
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Evander Berry Wall
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Vadrigar
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Pyrthas
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On May 28 2015 22:57 CruelZeratul wrote: It's not even when your teamfight is inferior and needs to be ahead to win. Aah I see, so the draft for CDEC was "if ahead, win. Else lose?" Interesting. I'll have to keep that in mind. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
By the way, am i only one who heavily dislikes shiva razor? | ||
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govie
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Otolia
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 28 2015 22:58 govie wrote: clockwerk no armour against this lineup is just dumb. Helps against dunks, AA and Sonic wave /s | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13069 Posts
On May 28 2015 22:58 lolfail9001 wrote: Lol those graphs. By the way, am i only one who heavily dislikes shiva razor? AC would been so much better. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
I mean, i guess those razors go by logic: i went aghs and bkb, i will probably go refresher, so i need an item with active and some mana in it, so end up with shiva... instead of hex. | ||
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Ayaz2810
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On May 28 2015 22:58 lolfail9001 wrote: Lol those graphs. By the way, am i only one who heavily dislikes shiva razor? I dislike it too. First TI for CTY! CTY hype! | ||
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Mafe
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RiZu
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Evander Berry Wall
United States1137 Posts
Congratulations to EHOME. Looking better. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 28 2015 23:05 SkelA wrote: Had Ehome 1st and Cdec 4th. Tongfu and HGT in the middle . Dang, made same mistake. RIP my chance for second Immortal III | ||
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duckii
Germany1017 Posts
Thought YYF and co would do better. | ||
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govie
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intotheheart
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Sn0_Man
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On May 28 2015 23:13 IntoTheheart wrote: I wonder if I can start a thing on the Liquiddota forums where someone has to describe why the winning team won in one under-twenty-word sentence. ? every answer would be "the other team suck/threw/can't draft" ur average user has no idea how dota really works. This isn't starcraft where there's very few variables to analyze. see: below | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 28 2015 23:13 IntoTheheart wrote: I wonder if I can start a thing on the Liquiddota forums where someone has to describe why the winning team won in one under-twenty-word sentence. It would be boring because majority of wins can be explained with 1 word, let alone a sentence. On May 28 2015 23:20 Sn0_Man wrote: ? every answer would be "the other team suck/threw/can't draft" ur average user has no idea how dota really works Problem is that majority of those would be right anyways lmao. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On May 28 2015 23:20 lolfail9001 wrote: It would be boring because majority of wins can be explained with 1 word, let alone a sentence. Problem is that majority of those would be right anyways lmao. What's your pick for this game? "They're the mouz. of China?" | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 28 2015 23:21 IntoTheheart wrote: What's your pick for this game? "They're the mouz. of China?" My pick for what? My one sentence would be "Don't go lategame against razor/AA/Axe with single carry" | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On May 28 2015 23:24 lolfail9001 wrote: My pick for what? My one sentence would be "Don't go lategame against razor/AA/Axe with single carry" That goes down to there being too much control, and then your four supports just aren't useful, right? I'm still in trench, so be prepared to answer lots of basic questions. | ||
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lprk
Poland2249 Posts
On May 28 2015 23:27 IntoTheheart wrote: That goes down to there being too much control, and then your four supports just aren't useful, right? I'm still in trench, so be prepared to answer lots of basic questions. There wasn't that much control, but call is enough to static link even magic immune carry, which eliminate carry damage for 18sec. AA ensures that enemy only carry isn't healed/lifestealing/graved etc. CDEC draft had only magical damage when Gyro was drained so BKBs, Piepes, Glimmer Capes meant no damage with good initiation on Gyro. | ||
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